Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
Two for two. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2014, at 21:57, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: John Reames wrote: I understand the service techs see the v6 models more, and that they are runflat/def models... WILTON wrote: runflat/def? I'm Guessing DEF means Diesel Exhaust Fluid - or Blutech. Runflat I suppose refers to no spare tire as the installed tires are run-flat models. But I'm just guessing... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
John Reames via Mercedes wrote: Two for two. So the pee tank is where the spare belongs on a W211? Does the 212 have a spare tire? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
ned kleinhenz via Mercedes wrote: After seeing what my son and my fellow workers experienced, I avoid run-flats like the plague. They cost a lot, don't wear very long and handle terribly. In exchange for those draw backs, after loosing its air, a run flat will go 50 miles before self destructing. Give me a spare (even a compact spare) any day. I was looking at a Cobalt XFE around 2008 or so. Standard equipment was a can of Fix-A-Flat type stuff. Optional equipment was a compact spare for $70 or so. Annoying, but I'd rather have a tire inflator in a can than run flat tires. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
No bluetec has a spare to my knowledge; all of them need the aqueous urea injection system (50 state compliance?) I suppose it makes sense to steal the spare tire area for the tank; it makes little sense for MB to design a chassis with yet another area for a large-ish tank... Also don't the bluetecs have an expensive-ish diesel particulate filter that is essentially a consumable? As far as run-flats, I'd hope they also shipped with a smart type inflator and goo-injector system to (attempt) to seal a punctured tire... I also wonder if it would make any sense to just toss slime in the tire ahead of time... Or go back to tubing the tires (I actually did that with the tires on my pressure washer...) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 25, 2014, at 7:04, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: John Reames via Mercedes wrote: Two for two. So the pee tank is where the spare belongs on a W211? Does the 212 have a spare tire? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
WILTON via Mercedes wrote: After 50 years with at least 2 cars in the yard and coming and going very independently, SWMBO and I have made it through the last year reasonably well with only one car, the '87 300D, but there have been several times one of us had to cancel appointments or juggle activities to accommodate the other. I also stay fearful that I'm gonna be off somewhere and stay too long or forget that SWMBO needs the car. 'Been 2 or 3 times, too, when she stayed away too long and made me late, but I haven't said anything about it. 'Might be looking for a 211. What years were 211 CDI's? Maybe, even an E350, though somewhat blasphemous. ;) IIRC, RLE (RIP) used to say not to touch the 2003-2005 models. Also, IIRC, Jaime was more lenient. I know there was a CDI in 2005, I have an electronic variable turbo from one that I bought for a OM602 project that never happened. I'm pretty sure that all later years had a CDI or pee diesel available. Not so sure about 2003-2004. Anybody remember different, or claim to know more than those guys? I certainly have no personal knowledge of anything post 210. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
Weren't these built during the Daimler/Chrysler time frame? (bad) Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: WILTON via Mercedes wrote: After 50 years with at least 2 cars in the yard and coming and going very independently, SWMBO and I have made it through the last year reasonably well with only one car, the '87 300D, but there have been several times one of us had to cancel appointments or juggle activities to accommodate the other. I also stay fearful that I'm gonna be off somewhere and stay too long or forget that SWMBO needs the car. 'Been 2 or 3 times, too, when she stayed away too long and made me late, but I haven't said anything about it. 'Might be looking for a 211. What years were 211 CDI's? Maybe, even an E350, though somewhat blasphemous. ;) IIRC, RLE (RIP) used to say not to touch the 2003-2005 models. Also, IIRC, Jaime was more lenient. I know there was a CDI in 2005, I have an electronic variable turbo from one that I bought for a OM602 project that never happened. I'm pretty sure that all later years had a CDI or pee diesel available. Not so sure about 2003-2004. Anybody remember different, or claim to know more than those guys? I certainly have no personal knowledge of anything post 210. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
I've heard only good things about MB diesel sedans from 2005 and newer. Some really think the early cars with the straight six engine is better, I would get the best example of the newest car I could afford, if I were in that market. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
If you are considering a diesel from the Blu era, and if you expect your money to outlive you and your spouse, how about a e250 (actually a e210 by engine displacement)? Then you know it really will be in showroom condition. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
Yes sweet. I saw one at stealer few weeks ago.60k USD. GLK 250 might be better deal for 39k. On Jul 24, 2014 10:49 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you are considering a diesel from the Blu era, and if you expect your money to outlive you and your spouse, how about a e250 (actually a e210 by engine displacement)? Then you know it really will be in showroom condition. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
From the StarTekInfo site, the E320 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 inline 6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006. The E320 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6 engine. It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model was introduced in 2010. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
Thnx. Wilt - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy? From the StarTekInfo site, the E320 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 inline 6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006. The E320 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6 engine. It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model was introduced in 2010. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
BTW, I shoulda bought Angelo Giaimo's friend's '91 350SDL with MB crate engine. Procrastinated coupla days too long. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy? From the StarTekInfo site, the E320 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 inline 6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006. The E320 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6 engine. It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model was introduced in 2010. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
They sure don't produce a particular engine for very long Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From the StarTekInfo site, the E320 211 CDI (211.026, with 648.961 inline 6 engine), was produced from 2004 to 2006. The E320 211 Bluetec began production 2007, 211.022, with 642.920 v6 engine. It looks like production ran through 2009, and then the 212 model was introduced in 2010. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
After I close on my 20 acre ranch next month I'm going to be looking to replace the GL I had to sell in order to put the real estate deal together. Thought I want another gl, them maybe a diesel ml, but am thinking about a 05-06 e320 cdi, they are cheaper too Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2014, at 12:59 PM, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my search, last year, for a CDI, I found mostly 2005 model year available, with a few of the almost identical 2006's also around. These straight 6 models were also made in 2004 and probably earlier. But I'm not sure the CDI's were available in North America before 2005. In 2007 through 2009 they went to the Blue-Tech V-6 engine, which are supposed to be very nice, but certainly more expensive. The straight six's of 2005-06 seem bullet-proof and powerful. But this car also has SBC brakes, which is an electronically controlled braking system of controversial reliability. The post 2007's have a more conventional braking system. I remember the Chrysler affiliation ending in 2006. I bought a 2006 CDI, with 100k mi, last October. So far I'm really glad I bought it. It is the nicest and by far the fasted MB diesel I've owned in my 30 years of driving 123 and 124 diesels. I often get better than 40 mpg on highway. And the electronic brakes are amazingly effective. So far, in 25k+ miles, I've had no problems. I've owned Chryslers before, and this MB has done nothing Chrysler like to me yet. I did a fair amount of research before buying one. Found the gasoline versions of the W211 were plagued with engine failures and other problems causing prices noticeably lower than the diesel models. But almost every consumer who reviewed their diesel loved it. I'm sure YMMV. Just my $0.02 worth, Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
Thnx. Wilt - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] 211 to buy? In my search, last year, for a CDI, I found mostly 2005 model year available, with a few of the almost identical 2006's also around. These straight 6 models were also made in 2004 and probably earlier. But I'm not sure the CDI's were available in North America before 2005. In 2007 through 2009 they went to the Blue-Tech V-6 engine, which are supposed to be very nice, but certainly more expensive. The straight six's of 2005-06 seem bullet-proof and powerful. But this car also has SBC brakes, which is an electronically controlled braking system of controversial reliability. The post 2007's have a more conventional braking system. I remember the Chrysler affiliation ending in 2006. I bought a 2006 CDI, with 100k mi, last October. So far I'm really glad I bought it. It is the nicest and by far the fasted MB diesel I've owned in my 30 years of driving 123 and 124 diesels. I often get better than 40 mpg on highway. And the electronic brakes are amazingly effective. So far, in 25k+ miles, I've had no problems. I've owned Chryslers before, and this MB has done nothing Chrysler like to me yet. I did a fair amount of research before buying one. Found the gasoline versions of the W211 were plagued with engine failures and other problems causing prices noticeably lower than the diesel models. But almost every consumer who reviewed their diesel loved it. I'm sure YMMV. Just my $0.02 worth, Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: After I close on my 20 acre ranch next month Wow! How *many* old MBs are you going to have to buy to fill up 20 acres? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
This is what you need to replace the GL -- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4545979575.html On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: After I close on my 20 acre ranch next month I'm going to be looking to replace the GL I had to sell in order to put the real estate deal together. Thought I want another gl, them maybe a diesel ml, but am thinking about a 05-06 e320 cdi, they are cheaper too -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
That's what he needs, he's gonna get in on that deal to foster the illegal kids coming over the border, he can put them to work on his 20acres and haul them around in it. That'll hold 20 or 30 judging by what I saw in Houston. --R On 7/24/14 3:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: This is what you need to replace the GL -- http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/4545979575.html On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: After I close on my 20 acre ranch next month I'm going to be looking to replace the GL I had to sell in order to put the real estate deal together. Thought I want another gl, them maybe a diesel ml, but am thinking about a 05-06 e320 cdi, they are cheaper too ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
So are you going to host a Okie-Benz-Q in celebration? I'll be in St Louis area weekend of 23 August for a wedding, not too far of a drive I think, why don't you throw a Q on the 24th? -Max On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: After I close on my 20 acre ranch next month ... snip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
I understand the service techs see the v6 models more, and that they are runflat/def models... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2014, at 13:59, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my search, last year, for a CDI, I found mostly 2005 model year available, with a few of the almost identical 2006's also around. These straight 6 models were also made in 2004 and probably earlier. But I'm not sure the CDI's were available in North America before 2005. In 2007 through 2009 they went to the Blue-Tech V-6 engine, which are supposed to be very nice, but certainly more expensive. The straight six's of 2005-06 seem bullet-proof and powerful. But this car also has SBC brakes, which is an electronically controlled braking system of controversial reliability. The post 2007's have a more conventional braking system. I remember the Chrysler affiliation ending in 2006. I bought a 2006 CDI, with 100k mi, last October. So far I'm really glad I bought it. It is the nicest and by far the fasted MB diesel I've owned in my 30 years of driving 123 and 124 diesels. I often get better than 40 mpg on highway. And the electronic brakes are amazingly effective. So far, in 25k+ miles, I've had no problems. I've owned Chryslers before, and this MB has done nothing Chrysler like to me yet. I did a fair amount of research before buying one. Found the gasoline versions of the W211 were plagued with engine failures and other problems causing prices noticeably lower than the diesel models. But almost every consumer who reviewed their diesel loved it. I'm sure YMMV. Just my $0.02 worth, Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
runflat/def? Wilton - Original Message - From: John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: ned kleinhenz ned.kleinh...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy? I understand the service techs see the v6 models more, and that they are runflat/def models... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 24, 2014, at 13:59, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In my search, last year, for a CDI, I found mostly 2005 model year available, with a few of the almost identical 2006's also around. These straight 6 models were also made in 2004 and probably earlier. But I'm not sure the CDI's were available in North America before 2005. In 2007 through 2009 they went to the Blue-Tech V-6 engine, which are supposed to be very nice, but certainly more expensive. The straight six's of 2005-06 seem bullet-proof and powerful. But this car also has SBC brakes, which is an electronically controlled braking system of controversial reliability. The post 2007's have a more conventional braking system. I remember the Chrysler affiliation ending in 2006. I bought a 2006 CDI, with 100k mi, last October. So far I'm really glad I bought it. It is the nicest and by far the fasted MB diesel I've owned in my 30 years of driving 123 and 124 diesels. I often get better than 40 mpg on highway. And the electronic brakes are amazingly effective. So far, in 25k+ miles, I've had no problems. I've owned Chryslers before, and this MB has done nothing Chrysler like to me yet. I did a fair amount of research before buying one. Found the gasoline versions of the W211 were plagued with engine failures and other problems causing prices noticeably lower than the diesel models. But almost every consumer who reviewed their diesel loved it. I'm sure YMMV. Just my $0.02 worth, Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 211 to buy?
John Reames wrote: I understand the service techs see the v6 models more, and that they are runflat/def models... WILTON wrote: runflat/def? I'm Guessing DEF means Diesel Exhaust Fluid - or Blutech. Runflat I suppose refers to no spare tire as the installed tires are run-flat models. But I'm just guessing... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.