Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I hope and pray you'll find a med that works for you. Laying in
bed in
pain in a remote location like a motel room is againy in itself! Try
to
get your PCP to give you a referral to a Anestheologists - they have
the
tools to make the pain go away and they work hard at doing so -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
Thanks Larry. I'm still hoping it will just go away. I am avoiding the
surgery, even the surgeon says if you can take the pain don't get cut.
I know technology is making all kinds of stuff possible but I'm going
to stick it out.
I have an appointment in a couple of weeks, I'll talk to the Dr. He
seems to genuinely care and understand the problem. He also understands
that I've made a lot of lifestyle changes but there is still a need for
me to abuse my body from time to time.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Thanks Loren,
I bought replacement belts from the dealer and they were all Continental --
I needed to get the car back on the road the next day - I'm sure I would've
saved $'s if I'd ordered from Rusty! The total cost for all 3 belts from
our local stealership was $67.
One more thing - the AC belt is mandatory to be a Conti - I had a FLAPS AC
belt and the compressor would not turn properly at idle. It would lock*
rthymically - every 3-4 seconds - until the belt was glazed and began to
slip even more.
* - not sure how else to explain it - every few rpm the compressor would
stop turning momentarily (1-2 seconds) then start turning again - this
repeated over and over until I increased the rpm or drove away. I sometimes
would turn the AC off when stopped at a light.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
I have had the best longevity with Continental belts. You can get them
from Rusty US made belts are of all forms of quality, and it is not
usually obvious which are good and which are not. There some very good
ones out there but Conti belts are consistent.
At 08:07 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the
Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and
water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a
stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the
alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the
road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut
it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the
main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D
was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a
few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator.
I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Hi John,
Yeah, I've been disabled for about 10 years (time flies when you;re having
fun). I was being diagnosed when I was rebuilding the 240D engine in '95 -
I have a nerve disease similar to MS - except where MS attacks nerves in the
spine, what I have attacks them in the peripheral nerves. There are 3 or 4
similar diseases which attack these nerves and sometimes they cause loss of
strength and/or pain. My only problem is pain - intense burning sometimes
with sharp stabbing pain - like a RR spike being pushed thru my instep or
the same toe being broken over and over again - sometimes coming every 2-5
seconds for a few minutes or a few days at a time. Sleep was a real problem
at times. Which adds to the stress and seems to increase the pain level.
Unfortunately nerve pain is very difficult to manage. Too much meds and I
go to sleep - not a good way to spend life - too little and it;s a waste of
time. I see an anestheologist regularly and was implanted with a pump that
initially contained morphine which was dripped into my spine thru a catheter
from the pump. The morphine was changed to Dilaudid with epinephrine - it's
5x's more concentrated than morphine so I have to get the pump refilled
every 5 months instead of monthly. A needle is inserted and the old med
withdrawn then fresh inserted. Finding the port with the needle was very
difficult for the doctor to find sometimes - scar tissue builds up over
time - plus, the pump is canted slightly and the needle must enter
precisely. One time they tried 7 times before finding it! Not much fun.
I have good days and bad - probably 3-4 good days/week now on average - so
sleep is problematic making work difficult (the pain is also a factor). ;-)
Also, along with the pump meds I take percocet and a seizure med which has
proven somewhat effective. But sometimes *nothing* works and I have extreme
pain for 3 or 4 days straight. Its been hard on my wife - hearing me scream
every few seconds/minutes for long periods while being unable to do anything
is very frustrating for her (and me) ;-)
But it could always be worse!! Lots of people have problems I cannot
imagine - so I'm thankful for that.
Sorry to go into so much detail - but it's hard to explain briefly as most
people have never heard of chronic ideopathic demylinating
polyneuropathy - CIDP for short - I know I'd never heard of it before - and
while the initial diagnosis was going on I kept thinking they'd find out
what I had and give me a pill to cure me. It was a shock to find I have
something without a cure. I went to MCV, Johns Hopkins and wrote to the
Mayo Clinic who declined to see me - maybe if I;d been a sheik of Arabia
they would've tried - and stayed with my local neurologist for treatment.
Anyway - sorry again for being long-winded - thanks for the interest - I am
greatful for all those I've met on the internet and who have become
friends - my wife always frowns when I say I have made friends with
someone I only know thru email - but I have come to know some very well over
the past years -
Tell me John, how did you come to have a email name of rat-tail-baby? Seems
like there might be a story there? ;-) Take care -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the
240D was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often
enough.
Disabled Larry? I was gone for a long time what happened? I hope your
mending well.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 08:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi John,
Yeah, I've been disabled for about 10 years
I wasn't aware of that.
Unfortunately nerve pain is very difficult to manage. Too much meds
and I
go to sleep - not a good way to spend life - too little and it;s a
waste of
time. I see an anestheologist regularly and was implanted with a pump
that
initially contained morphine which was dripped into my spine thru a
catheter
from the pump. The morphine was changed to Dilaudid with epinephrine
- it's
5x's more concentrated than morphine
I know about nerve pain, I've been dealing with it for a while too.
Mine is caused by a disc in my cervical spine. I have been prescribed
all these meds but without the pump.
I refuse to take anything with acetaminophen and/or a billion adverse
side effects . Morphine works the best with little to no side effects.
Addiction and overdose can occur if your irresponsible but other than
that nothing unless you have a kidney problem. Morphine will not
metabolize if a certain type of kidney problem exists. The metabolites
can hang out in the kidneys causing problems.
My present Doc wrote me a prescription for Dilaudid 2mg and said its
equal to 30 mg morphine. I don't think that's true, they just don't
seem to work at that dosage.
I really could use the 30 mg morphine but these doctors are so worried
about there own ass getting in trouble that they are very conservative.
I thought of asking for a referral to a pain management
anesthesiologist. It was hell being out of town for almost 4 months as
nothing can be done A) across state lines and B) without continuing
care which means being stationary for 90 days. That just doesn't happen
in my line of work. Lots of sleepless nights. luckily I came across a
woman who just got a pump and gave me a handful of the morphine pills
she can no longer take. Got me through a few weeks taking them only
when things got unbearable.
Tell me John, how did you come to have a email name of rat-tail-baby?
Seems
like there might be a story there? ;-) Take care -
Ellwood J Rattail was our cat that was killed by coyotes. Its in his
memory. I do have the remnants of a ponytail though.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Hi John,
Sorry to hear about your back pain - it must be unbearable at times. As
for the rules about narcotic pain killers, all the druggies have made it
more difficult for us who need the meds for pain management. Now, I must go
to the anestheologist monthly to pick up my prescription for percocet -
because they can only write for a 30 day supply and cannot call a renewal
in. If a prescription is lost, you're SOL, IIRC. I was on 80mg Oxycontin
for a year or so - I'm glad they weened me off it and onto something less
attractive to the addicts - there were stories of addicts following people
home who had Oxy prescriptions filled and robbed their homes looking for
drugs.
I hope and pray you'll find a med that works for you. Laying in bed in
pain in a remote location like a motel room is againy in itself! Try to
get your PCP to give you a referral to a Anestheologists - they have the
tools to make the pain go away and they work hard at doing so -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 08:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi John,
Yeah, I've been disabled for about 10 years
I wasn't aware of that.
[SNIP]
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Ah. Key info. I often wonder which might be the most vital tools to include
in an emergency kit. I'll make belt replacement tools part of my kit.
Brian
83 240D
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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:07:02 -0500
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the
alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the
road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the
main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D
was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a
few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator.
I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 02:20 AM, Brian Chase wrote: Ah. Key info. I often wonder which might be the most vital tools to include in an emergency kit. I'll make belt replacement tools part of my kit. Brian 83 240D Replacing the belts before they're worn out might be a good idea. Most people carry no tools and wouldn't know how to use them. They get around just fine. These cars are so reliable, if maintained properly there should be no need for tools. Maybe a set of fuel filters, a philips screwdriver, and wrench for the spin-on. Just in case you get bad fuel in your travels. In all my years of driving MB diesels, I have never broken down. Not bad for a couple of million miles. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
True, John, but you are a real mechanic and do preventative maintenance second nature. Many of us aren't and don't unless we are reminded to do so. Last time the fan belt broke on the 240D it _looked_ fine to me but apparently was worn. On 1/31/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 02:20 AM, Brian Chase wrote: Ah. Key info. I often wonder which might be the most vital tools to include in an emergency kit. I'll make belt replacement tools part of my kit. Brian 83 240D Replacing the belts before they're worn out might be a good idea. Most people carry no tools and wouldn't know how to use them. They get around just fine. These cars are so reliable, if maintained properly there should be no need for tools. Maybe a set of fuel filters, a philips screwdriver, and wrench for the spin-on. Just in case you get bad fuel in your travels. In all my years of driving MB diesels, I have never broken down. Not bad for a couple of million miles. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 11:18 AM, LT Don wrote: True, John, but you are a real mechanic and do preventative maintenance second nature. Many of us aren't and don't unless we are reminded to do so. Last time the fan belt broke on the 240D it _looked_ fine to me but apparently was worn. PM is easier and generally cheaper than repairing. It can usually be done in a comfortable work environment in a leisurely fashion, rather than on the side of the road under the worst imaginable conditions. Your owner's manual and maintenance manual lay it out rather nicely for you. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
It depends (don't you love that phrase). However, it does depend on a lot of things. Assuming belts are properly installed, the environment will be the major factor in the life span. Here in Houston (and I suspect other major metropolitan areas), the ozone wrecks havoc on rubber parts. Belts usually last me 1-2 years maximum (I change them when I see them start cracking). Hoses are a bit longer, but wiper blades last me less than a year. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem Speaking of belts, how long should they last roughly either in miles or years. What is a good rule of thumb ? Thanks, Dan Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
I have an uncle who was a pro mechanic. He says that belts should last a long time but you need to apply belt dressing to them periodically if you expect them to do so. They get dried out and glazed but the belt dressing will prevent that if done properly and regularly. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Potter, Tom E Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 12:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem It depends (don't you love that phrase). However, it does depend on a lot of things. Assuming belts are properly installed, the environment will be the major factor in the life span. Here in Houston (and I suspect other major metropolitan areas), the ozone wrecks havoc on rubber parts. Belts usually last me 1-2 years maximum (I change them when I see them start cracking). Hoses are a bit longer, but wiper blades last me less than a year. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem Speaking of belts, how long should they last roughly either in miles or years. What is a good rule of thumb ? Thanks, Dan Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
I have had the best longevity with Continental belts. You can get them
from Rusty US made belts are of all forms of quality, and it is not
usually obvious which are good and which are not. There some very good
ones out there but Conti belts are consistent.
At 08:07 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:
Had a strange problem with my 78 240D last Thursday - was on the Interstate
doing 70 or so when I heard a bump and noticed the dash lights on and water
temp rising - knew a belt was gone so I switched off and coasted to a stop.
The AC belt was off its pulleys and laying on the engine bay - the alt/water
pump/ crank belt was no where to be seen. I saw it a 1/4 mile down the road
in 2 pieces! Anyway - couldn;t get the PS belt loose to remove so I cut it
and got my spare belt from the trunk - didn;t have proper wrnech to adjust
the alternator so the belt would fit so I managed to pry it on over the main
pulley - it was a little loose but it got us home.
All new belts (the old ones were only about 5 years/30,000 miles old) and
now all is well - but it has emphasized the need to do a detailed check of
the belts more often than I did. I usually check things over about once a
month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D was
being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough.
It always starts instantly (without block heater) in weather to the
teens - but it seems quieter now that it has new belts. Anyway - take a few
minutes to examine your belts - it ain;t NO fun to work on the side of the
road! I feel *very* fortunate to have been able to wrestle the belt back
over the pulleys so we could get home without a tow. I've also updated my
tool kit to include wrenches needed to loosen retighten the alternator. I
can easily get along with out AC and PS - but we ain;t going NO where
without the water pump. Oh yeah, I'm glad I had a razor to cut the PS
belt - made life easier -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D - 287k)
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Belt Problem
On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 09:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually check things over about once a month but since becoming disabled and no longer driving to work the 240D was being used less less I obviously wasn;t checking things often enough. Disabled Larry? I was gone for a long time what happened? I hope your mending well. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
