Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Ok. I was thinking about CLP...not LPS..CLP is for guns and such. We don't have LPS here. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 11:34 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Michael wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Wow. Bold statement, especially without specifying _which_ LPS product. LPS3 is a waxy oil stuff that is very good at protecting from rust, and good at keeping moving parts moving. In my experience, WD-40 is vastly inferior at providing a protective coating. Again, in my experience LPS2 is a superior lubricant compared to WD-40. I'm not sure how they compare for long term protection because I use LPS3 for that job. LPS1 is a dry lubricate once the carrier evaporates. I does not cause dust to stick, so is suitable for things like the 40ft telescoping pneumatic masts. It doesn't gum up like WD-40, and in my experience lubricates at least as well. I use WD-40 to kill wasps on their nests and to displace water in ignition systems. It works well for those jobs, but I personally wouldn't use it for any task that required lubrication - long or short term. My only complaint with LPS is trying to find a local retailer to sell it... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
But WD-40 is not a lubricant. But it sure acts like one. I think of it more as a very slow-set glue. I used ATF, and used the vacuum source to slurp it up into the cable sheath and all the way through. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Try spraying it in an adding machine, clock, etc. Wait a month or six. Then buy another clock. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. --R On 7/2/13 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
It does goop up. Provides an excellent protective barrier for non-moving parts. Not so good on moving parts as it collects dust and dirt and goops up into a oily paste. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. --R On 7/2/13 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. Give them a can of Rem Oil and see what they say in a year. When somebody took WD, RIG, and a bunch of gun type oils, sprayed some stripper clips, and then stuck them on a coat hanger over the shower for a year, the Rem Oil clip had the least rust on it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
I suppose, if the applied-to thing does not need to move --R On 7/2/13 12:26 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. --R On 7/2/13 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Snowmobile engines and exhausts tend to get all rusty after a couple years, they live in a difficult environment after all. That said I know a guy who, every spring soaks the whole engine in WD40 as part of his summerizing (like winterizing but backwards) procedure. His machines always look like new under the hood. The only machine I've ever seen that still had all the paint on the exhaust after a couple seasons riding was one of his. -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:22:49 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d2fe59.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
I also wonder if it is better to use the WD40 in the liquid state rather than aerosol cans of it. Randy On 02/07/2013 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Snowmobile engines and exhausts tend to get all rusty after a couple years, they live in a difficult environment after all. That said I know a guy who, every spring soaks the whole engine in WD40 as part of his summerizing (like winterizing but backwards) procedure. His machines always look like new under the hood. The only machine I've ever seen that still had all the paint on the exhaust after a couple seasons riding was one of his. -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:22:49 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d2fe59.5010...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and seize up. They spray that stuff all over everything, and over time the gunk builds up and it does not move anyway. I think I took some LPS or light spray lube of some sort one time, and the various family members told me it was no good. Go figure. Not my headache except every coupla years if I get there, so I did not fight it. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
For a job like soaking the engine bay of a snowmobile the gallon bottles are probably invaluable. Otherwise I doubt it matters, its still liquid in the aerosol cans... -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:45:53 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: 51d31fe1.9060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I also wonder if it is better to use the WD40 in the liquid state rather than aerosol cans of it. Randy On 02/07/2013 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Snowmobile engines and exhausts tend to get all rusty after a couple years, they live in a difficult environment after all. That said I know a guy who, every spring soaks the whole engine in WD40 as part of his summerizing (like winterizing but backwards) procedure. His machines always look like new under the hood. The only machine I've ever seen that still had all the paint on the exhaust after a couple seasons riding was one of his. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
BTTT, WRONG. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp As for the claim the basic ingredient in WD-40 is fish oil, it's a common rumor and one that is easily propagated (because cans of WD-40 spray include no ingredients list), but a glance at the composition information included in the MSDS and http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (167,xxx mi) On 7/2/2013 6:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
The MSDS states between 47 and 58% Aliphatic hydrocarbon. That does not say exactly what it is. It COULD vey well be fish oil and only the manufacturer knows. The MSDS also states wd-40 to be non-toxic according to guidlines. Seems if it were mostly petroleum distillates it would be listed as toxic and carcinogenic. Using deduction, what other Aliphatic hydrocarbon would work as well to displace water and be non-toxic? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:29 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BTTT, WRONG. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/**household/wd-40.asphttp://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp As for the claim the basic ingredient in WD-40 is fish oil, it's a common rumor and one that is easily propagated (because cans of WD-40 spray include no ingredients list), but a glance at the composition information included in the MSDS and http://www.wd40company.com/**files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdfhttp://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (167,xxx mi) On 7/2/2013 6:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Aliphatic_compoundhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.commercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://wd40.com/about-us/myths-legends-fun-facts/ If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood. Dan On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The MSDS states between 47 and 58% Aliphatic hydrocarbon. That does not say exactly what it is. It COULD vey well be fish oil and only the manufacturer knows. The MSDS also states wd-40 to be non-toxic according to guidlines. Seems if it were mostly petroleum distillates it would be listed as toxic and carcinogenic. Using deduction, what other Aliphatic hydrocarbon would work as well to displace water and be non-toxic? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Parafin ? That's what I've heard was in it. A typwriter repairman once told me that he could always tell when someone had sprayed WD40 in their Selectric -- On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: The MSDS states between 47 and 58% Aliphatic hydrocarbon. That does not say exactly what it is. It COULD vey well be fish oil and only the manufacturer knows. The MSDS also states wd-40 to be non-toxic according to guidlines. Seems if it were mostly petroleum distillates it would be listed as toxic and carcinogenic. Using deduction, what other Aliphatic hydrocarbon would work as well to displace water and be non-toxic? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:29 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BTTT, WRONG. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/**household/wd-40.asp http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp As for the claim the basic ingredient in WD-40 is fish oil, it's a common rumor and one that is easily propagated (because cans of WD-40 spray include no ingredients list), but a glance at the composition information included in the MSDS and http://www.wd40company.com/**files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (167,xxx mi) On 7/2/2013 6:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Aliphatic_compound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wouldn't paraffin be a solid at room temperature? Would it stay liquid with a petroleum distillate to thin it? I notice an oily residue, though it is thick. It really doesn't feel waxy to me. Mike Mike On Jul 2, 2013 8:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Parafin ? That's what I've heard was in it. A typwriter repairman once told me that he could always tell when someone had sprayed WD40 in their Selectric -- On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: The MSDS states between 47 and 58% Aliphatic hydrocarbon. That does not say exactly what it is. It COULD vey well be fish oil and only the manufacturer knows. The MSDS also states wd-40 to be non-toxic according to guidlines. Seems if it were mostly petroleum distillates it would be listed as toxic and carcinogenic. Using deduction, what other Aliphatic hydrocarbon would work as well to displace water and be non-toxic? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:29 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: BTTT, WRONG. http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/**household/wd-40.asp http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp As for the claim the basic ingredient in WD-40 is fish oil, it's a common rumor and one that is easily propagated (because cans of WD-40 spray include no ingredients list), but a glance at the composition information included in the MSDS and http://www.wd40company.com/**files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (167,xxx mi) On 7/2/2013 6:21 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Aliphatic_compound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Parafin ? That's what I've heard was in it. A typwriter repairman once told me that he could always tell when someone had sprayed WD40 in their Selectric -- Was he British? Paraffin is BE for kerosene. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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in my experience with bicycles, i don't use WD40 for anything except cleaning stuff off; things that need a lube get a light oil. WD40 is a Water Dispersant, not a lube. if you don't get it all off, it becomes a dirt magnet. cheers! e On 02/Jul/13 09:14, Randy Bennell wrote: On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually, aliphatic and aromatic compounds consist only of C and H, whereas fats derived from living organisms are more complex. These fats and oils are amenable to saponification (soap making) and esterification (as in production of biodiesel) because they chemically act as acids in these reactions. Fish oil is not classed as an aliphatic hydrocarbon. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe not all pf them but apparently shark liver oil is. squa·lene (skwln) n. A colorless unsaturated aliphatic hydrocarbon, C30H50, found especially in human sebum and in the liver oil of sharks, that is an intermediate in the biosynthesis of cholesterol and is used in biochemical research. [New Latin Squalus, shark genus (from its occurrence in the liver oil of sharks) (from Latin squalus, a sea fish) + -ene.] Mike On Jul 2, 2013 10:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Actually, aliphatic and aromatic compounds consist only of C and H, whereas fats derived from living organisms are more complex. These fats and oils are amenable to saponification (soap making) and esterification (as in production of biodiesel) because they chemically act as acids in these reactions. Fish oil is not classed as an aliphatic hydrocarbon. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe
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I guess after reading that again it should say that the aliphatic hydrocarbon is part of the shark liver oil. So maybe wd40 is derrived from fish oil? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 10:46 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe not all pf them but apparently shark liver oil is. squa·lene (skwln) n. A colorless unsaturated aliphatic hydrocarbon, C30H50, found especially in human sebum and in the liver oil of sharks, that is an intermediate in the biosynthesis of cholesterol and is used in biochemical research. [New Latin Squalus, shark genus (from its occurrence in the liver oil of sharks) (from Latin squalus, a sea fish) + -ene.] Mike On Jul 2, 2013 10:39 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Actually, aliphatic and aromatic compounds consist only of C and H, whereas fats derived from living organisms are more complex. These fats and oils are amenable to saponification (soap making) and esterification (as in production of biodiesel) because they chemically act as acids in these reactions. Fish oil is not classed as an aliphatic hydrocarbon. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 4:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Right. Such as fish oil. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 7:13 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Aliphatic hydrocarbons is a broad category that includes all hydrocarbon without aromatic rings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliphatic_compound -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
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Michael wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Wow. Bold statement, especially without specifying _which_ LPS product. LPS3 is a waxy oil stuff that is very good at protecting from rust, and good at keeping moving parts moving. In my experience, WD-40 is vastly inferior at providing a protective coating. Again, in my experience LPS2 is a superior lubricant compared to WD-40. I'm not sure how they compare for long term protection because I use LPS3 for that job. LPS1 is a dry lubricate once the carrier evaporates. I does not cause dust to stick, so is suitable for things like the 40ft telescoping pneumatic masts. It doesn't gum up like WD-40, and in my experience lubricates at least as well. I use WD-40 to kill wasps on their nests and to displace water in ignition systems. It works well for those jobs, but I personally wouldn't use it for any task that required lubrication - long or short term. My only complaint with LPS is trying to find a local retailer to sell it... --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
What about serfs? --R On 7/1/13 12:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Got it opened? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Replacing the hood release cable is a job even a citizen of Washington, D.C. can accomplish. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pfff, thats how I ALWAYS opened the hood on my '81 300TD. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CABHyH=zjh2rfq3urzecqefe-t+0l7hl0rk71n+0jhjhagj2...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire thing. Pop! Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
So does water if it comes right down to it... I'd start with a REAL penetrating lubricant, about the only one at FLAPS is PB Blaster or Seafoam Deep Creep (which I don't like though Dimitri does I think), I've got some Rotunda from Ford thats fantastic but smells terrible. Once you get it free'd up clean it with carb cleaner and use some real cable lube which doesn't attract dirt. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:22:01 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: CAC35L=sareqn97yjsroxoo-zeqc5xy5xx03txzzfzmqtooc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Try it on your seats --R On 7/1/13 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.
No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. Craig wrote: But WD-40 is not a lubricant. Andrew wrote: But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubricant properties, I suggest using a lubricant. LPS1, LPS2, and LPS3 are _my_ favorites. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
