Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-24 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Peter, like I said, 86 and later diesel 126s all used the same radiator...
confirmed in the EPC last night.  Plus I have a 91 350SDL in my driveway
with the downflow radiator!

Kaleb, I'd but this if I were you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Radiator-FOR-1986-1987-Mercedes-300SDL-/162377326319?hash=item25ce715eef:g:TVMAAOSwa~BYTtzn=mtr

They're hard to find anywhere in stock and the price is right.  They're
ugly, but they work.

Jaime


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> The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the
> cross-flow was used.
>
> The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a
> rad for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line
> catalog, and if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of
> stock.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well mine has the tank in the top and hoses connect on top and bottlm not the 
sides like the 124

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> On Feb 23, 2017, at 10:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the cross-flow 
> was used.
> 
> The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a rad 
> for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line catalog, 
> and if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of stock.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The downflow radiator was only used in 86, I think, after that the cross-flow 
was used.

The part number is for the cross-flow, I learned all this searching for a rad 
for my brother's SDL.  The picture is usually wrong in the on-line catalog, and 
if you try to order one for an 86, it will come up as out of stock.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Nice!   Good find, Fred!


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
February 23, 2017 at 7:04 PM
http://www.brinsonco.com/store/page41.html

[http://www.brinsonco.com/store/media/ss_size2/1265005303.jpg]

Service Group 50 - Radiators
www.brinsonco.com
Radiator. This is a new, all aluminum radiator to replace the 
unobtainable original radiator for the 300SDL/350SD/SDL 1986-91. This 
is a direct replacement with no ...






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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Speaking of this, the 5303 part number comes up in the online dealer 
parts sites but says it also fits 300D and TD, which I know is not 
correct. I also see this part number pulling ebay listings with the 
cross flow radiator clearly pictured like would be used in the 124.  I 
am still in shock that there is not even an aftermarket version of 
this.  I did see this pop up


http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Radiator-FOR-1986-1987-Mercedes-300SDL-/162377326319?hash=item25ce715eef:g:TVMAAOSwa~BYTtzn=mtr



On 2/23/2017 7:21 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

126 500 27 03



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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Let me dig thru my pile of radiators and see what I have. If not I will email 
you.

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> On Feb 23, 2017, at 6:38 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I needed one for my 350SDL over the summer.  I got lucky a found a NOS Behr
> on ebay by searching for the Behr part number.
> 
> I had previously placed an order with radiator express since I knew it was
> on its way out, it was back ordered for months.  I finally got a call in
> October or November that it had come in.  I told them I didn't want it and
> they said they still had a waiting list.  They couldn't get them fast
> enough.
> 
> I also have a good used one I got from a friend if you need one urgently.
> Its one of the updated Behrs with reinforced necks.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225
>> ia_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7m
>> mPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's one at Radiator
>> Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)
>> 
>> I searched for a 91 300SDL
>> 
>> Larry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that
>>> runs about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still
>>> around.
>>> 
>>> A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper
>>> and lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.
>>> 
>>> My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom
>>> upper tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
86-87 300SDL and 90-91 350SDL radiators are the same.  Both use A 126 500
53 03 (which replaced A126 500 27 03).

Someone (incorrectly) told me that it was possible to install a cross flow
radiator ( from a diesel 124 A124 500 00 02).  I did some heavy research
into this (I bought one) and found that its simply impossible without major
modification to the car.  Its simply not practical.  Getting the right
hoses for the coolant and transmission cooler were possible with all MB
parts, but getting the radiator in place wasn't possible.  The lower mounts
are in a different place, requiring major modifications, but the radiator
also didn't fit in terms of width from what I remember.

I ended up returning all the parts and going with the NOS Behr I found.

Jaime




On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The 86 radiator is different than later ones, it's a downflow and not a
> crossflow.  They are only interchangeable if you change the radiator
> supports.
>
> And the available one is getting scarce
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The 86 radiator is different than later ones, it's a downflow and not a 
crossflow.  They are only interchangeable if you change the radiator supports.

And the available one is getting scarce


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
http://www.brinsonco.com/store/page41.html

[http://www.brinsonco.com/store/media/ss_size2/1265005303.jpg]

Service Group 50 - Radiators
www.brinsonco.com
Radiator. This is a new, all aluminum radiator to replace the unobtainable 
original radiator for the 300SDL/350SD/SDL 1986-91. This is a direct 
replacement with no ...





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From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin 
via Mercedes 
Sent: 23 February 2017 18:29
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

The SDL needs a new radiator. I probably have a used one around here somewhere 
but wanted to price new ones. I checked importec, fcp, and autohausaz and none 
have a radiator listed. Is this some sort of rare item now days? Seems odd.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I needed one for my 350SDL over the summer.  I got lucky a found a NOS Behr
on ebay by searching for the Behr part number.

I had previously placed an order with radiator express since I knew it was
on its way out, it was back ordered for months.  I finally got a call in
October or November that it had come in.  I told them I didn't want it and
they said they still had a waiting list.  They couldn't get them fast
enough.

I also have a good used one I got from a friend if you need one urgently.
Its one of the updated Behrs with reinforced necks.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225
> ia_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7m
> mPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's one at Radiator
> Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)
>
> I searched for a 91 300SDL
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that
>> runs about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still
>> around.
>>
>> A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper
>> and lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.
>>
>> My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom
>> upper tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.
>>
>> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
https://www.radiatorexpress.com/product.asp?part_id=40225_id=1194465=CjwKEAiArbrFBRDL4Oiz97GP2nISJAAmJMFa5l7mmPUpeQ6BRUrjYp_G6qlCLLGivSxDBtPVHfimQBoCDmTw_wcBHere's 
one at Radiator Exprress for $450.   (YIKES!!!)


I searched for a 91 300SDL

Larry


On 02/23/2017 7:19 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that runs 
about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still around.

A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper and 
lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.

My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom upper 
tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2017-02-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Radiator for an '86 SDL is NLA.  There is an aftermarket I've seen that runs 
about $650, but I don't remember where I saw it or if it's still around.

A radiator from a later model will fit, but you need to replace the upper and 
lower radiator supports -- it's the same as the radiator in the 87 300D.

My brother went through this a couple years ago, ended up having a custom upper 
tank made since he'd broken the upper hose nipple off.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It shows up in the EPC as available.  List is $427.52

Dan




 On Nov 14, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 ‎Original Message  
 From: Peter Frederick
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:20 PM
 To: Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
 
 Thanks guys.
 
 It appears that the part number is common between the W126 and W124,  
 I'll check.  I can get a rad for the W124 with no problem, Nissen or  
 Behr if they are identical.‎
 
 I don't think it will be available in the aftermarket for some reason. I 
 tried the part number in a couple different sites, and drew a blank. 
 
 Perhaps World-Pak doesn't carry it. 
 I imagine you can negotiate a decent deal with the parts manager at the local 
 dealer. 
 
 PN 1265005303 
 
 Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

I found 10 or so on car-part.com usa search.


My brother's SDL acquired a cracked hot side tank, and it appears 
that new ones are NLA, at least from any US source.


Does anyone have one in functioning condition?

I'm looking into whether or not it's possible to adapt a 300D 
radiator, as that one is still all over the place from a number of 
manufacturers, for some reason that escapes me (since there were far 
more W126s with the M603 than W124s).


Thanks!

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:07:01 -0600
 Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 My brother's SDL acquired a cracked hot side tank, and it appears that  
 new ones are NLA, at least from any US source.
 
 Does anyone have one in functioning condition?
 

 This is the part, yes?
http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/RADIATOR/7519344/1265005303.html
It is $368 from here.
https://www.getmercedesparts.com/oem-mercedes-parts.html
Rick  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 This is the part, yes?
 http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/RADIATOR/7519344/1265005303.html
 It is $368 from here.
 https://www.getmercedesparts.com/oem-mercedes-parts.html
 Rick

My bad there are two part numbers. The SDL is 1265005303 

It is $448

There is another part that appears possibly interchangable. It is 1265002703

It is $368

GetMercedesParts.com

A dealer in Annapolis MD.

1-866-694-8186

Give them a call. It couldn't hurt.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Thanks guys.

It appears that the part number is common between the W126 and W124,  
I'll check.  I can get a rad for the W124 with no problem, Nissen or  
Behr if they are identical.


Probably why there are no parts out there -- someone goofed and its  
only listed as a W124 part even though it has a W126 part number.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

2014-11-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Original Message  
From: Peter Frederick
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:20 PM
To: Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator

Thanks guys.

It appears that the part number is common between the W126 and W124,  
I'll check.  I can get a rad for the W124 with no problem, Nissen or  
Behr if they are identical.‎

I don't think it will be available in the aftermarket for some reason. I tried 
the part number in a couple different sites, and drew a blank. 

Perhaps World-Pak doesn't carry it. 
I imagine you can negotiate a decent deal with the parts manager at the local 
dealer. 

PN 1265005303 

Rick 
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