Re: [MBZ] 300td compressor failure

2015-08-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
TRT30 and PS20 both work for Advanced Auto.

Dan

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 On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:34 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 this is the part  number for the one i bought
 
 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fss-58228
 
 and the one i bought had mercedes as the correct application 
 
 i think the business about SPECIAL MERCEDES COMPRESSER is an old wive's tale 
 unless someone can show me some good documentation
 
 remember it IS A CHEVY GM compressor, not something from the high heat of the 
 black forest  deserts 
 
 so called four seasons is supposed to be a legitimate after 
 
 everyone selling them is using the same photo and same part number
 
 as far as orientation, there is only one clock position for mounting that 
 allows the line assembly to be connected
 
 what are the current best deals on coupons for auto zone  advance o'reilly etc
 
 if i can get a $50 off they are competitive
 
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] 300td compressor failure

2015-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Alex, I'll take the Roll Guy kit for $500
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 13, 2015 6:59:58 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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Rick Sez:

  this is the part  number for the one i bought
  
  http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fss-58228

  
  so called four seasons is supposed to be a legitimate after 

Four Seasons used to have a bad reputation.

IIRC, Dr. Fats was recommending a compressor that
was manufactured in Texas. 

Seems to me this is the best solution, but not cheap.

http://www.klimakit.com/product/w123-sanden-sd-ac-compressor-upgrade-kit/

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/2349089-sanden-style-c-compressor-mounting-kit.html


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-W123-AC-Compressor-Mounting-Conversion-Kit-Sanden-240D-300D-TD-CD-/111742113022?hash=item1a045954fevxp=mtr

Rick

 
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Re: [MBZ] 300td compressor failure

2015-08-13 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Here's the one fats recommended. 

Behr 

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-a-c-compressor-0002304711

Here it is cheaper. 

http://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/54627/A-C-Compressor-490F100/

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300td compressor failure

2015-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
i think the business about SPECIAL MERCEDES COMPRESSER is an old 
wive's tale unless someone can show me some good documentation


I found this quote:

I called Delphi customer service today and talked with a 30+ year 
verteran. He pulled their documentation on the r4 unit and they 
recommend installing it with the X in the up position but on the same 
hand he said it does not matter. The oil is splashing around in there 
so much that the front bearing is going to get some lube on it no 
matter where the X is.  He stated that in working there for 30 years 
that this was the first time anyone has ever asked this question and 
that they have a MB trained tech on staff and he reiterated the same 
thing - that it should not make any difference in the life of the 
compressor.  I will be replacing a one year old new locked up 
compressor this coming weekend and hopefully will be able to take the 
old compressor apart to determine its failure mode.


And on the other hand this:

Any one you get that does NOT come from Mercedes will have the front 
bearing cover installed UPSIDE DOWN. Look at the cover on the front 
behind the clutch. It will have 4 bolts.  Between 2 of the bolts will 
be an embossed X.  This is the position of the oil hole to lube the 
front bearing. The R4 compressor was originally designed for GM cars 
with the compressor mounted on top of the engine.  The X and the 
inlet/outlet port is UP.  Mercedes used the compressor but rotated it 
180 degrees and mounted it under the engine.  This put the ports DOWN.  
Then they rotated the front cover so the X is UP.  Oil does NOT flow 
uphill.  If you use an aftermarket compressor with the X down, you will 
starve the front bearing of oil.  It may last a week, amonth, 6 
months depends on the quality of the bearing they put in.  I have 
received feedback on that information confirming that it is basically 
correct.  That DOES NOT Mean that if you mount an R-4 upside down, it 
will fail prematurely - only that it is much more likely to fail 
prematurely if you mount it upside down.  I have had many people 
dispute this and tell me that, I mounted my compressor without an X on 
it and it's still working 10-15 years later.  No argument, but there 
really is a reason why Mercedes marked their compressors and most of 
the guys I've spoken with that do this for a living (and don't want 
comebacks) insure that they use compressors configured to work on a 
Mercedes.  Marshall--Marshall Booth Ph.D.Ass't Prof. (ret.)Univ of 
Pittsburgh School of Medicine


-- Jim


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