Re: [MBZ] 420

2015-05-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Nope, we called the UN425. Apparently my coworkers do know how to use Google. -Curt From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:43 PM Subject: 420 So Curt,  you are

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-23 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com writes: Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . . But which does not in smarter email clients... Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 00:40:02 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com writes: Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . . But which does not in smarter email clients... True. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's pretty steep for my market based on your description. More like a $2500 car around here if it's in good condition and everything works. Maybe $3000 if it's really clean and has records. Dan On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oops

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Ok, so the price is not stupid - just on the high side of what you would think down where you are. I am in Canada and there are a lot fewer of this sort of thing around here. If we adjust for the difference in the dollar then we also take about 10% off these days too. RB On 22/09/2014 11:33

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No, I don't think it's stupid, but I would expect it to be a pretty nice specimen at that price. Dan On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ok, so the price is not stupid - just on the high side of what you would think down where you are. I am in Canada and

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/winnipeg/1987-mercedez-benz-420-series/454304279?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true On 22/09/2014 11:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: No, I don't think it's stupid, but I would expect it to be a pretty nice specimen at that price. Dan On Sep 22, 2014,

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It's a dealer, which explains the price. Get a PPI if you're interested. Dan On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/winnipeg/1987-mercedez-benz-420-series/454304279?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oops Did not change the subject line It would be nice, too, if you would start a new email instead of replying to an existing thread, so it would have its own thread. But that's being picky ...

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 22/09/2014 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oops Did not change the subject line It would be nice, too, if you would start a new email instead of replying to an existing thread, so it would have

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Which does result in a new thread in gmail . . . On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 22/09/2014 12:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 11:13:01 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Oops

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yeah, but a Chevy dealer and about 90 miles away in a small town with no one likely to be very knowledgeable about MB so not easy to do. My guess, for what it is worth, is that the car maybe belonged to the owner of the dealership or his wife, or father etc. It just seems odd to me that they

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
There is one for sale here that has been for sale for quite a while for $1500 with 148k miles. Shame, these are nice cars and worth so much more. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, but a Chevy dealer and about 90

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Agreed. There's got to be some attachment or emotion involved, or they're blinded by the tristar and have unrealistic ideas of its value. There's a 3400 mile 1991 500SL on BW right now. The owners, an older couple who bought the car new, went for a drive and found the car had a head gasket

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What would a used engine transplant cost? The car is awesomely pretty and might be worth the investment since at some future time this model might be deemed a classic. The 420SEL OTOH has zero upside potential. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 22/09/2014 5:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The 420SEL OTOH has zero upside potential. Not much likely if one drives it through the winters and puts another 2 or 3 hundred thousand k on it? RB who does not have deep enough pockets or long enough arms to have a car like

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Did it grow up on the salted roads of Winnipooland? ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Craig diese...@pisquared.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You wouldn't buy that car for upside potential. You buy it because you like it and want to drive it. Anyone who buys a car of that age and vintage isn't buying it for upside potential. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There is a separate thread in the For sale forum where a couple of people have addressed that. A decent used low mile engine would be around $2k. The problem with that is the loss of matching numbers, if that matters. If it were me and I wanted to maintain the value and integrity, I would have

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL

2014-09-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Their car is worth about 2k the way it sits. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There is a separate thread in the For sale forum where a couple of people have addressed that. A decent used low mile engine would be around

Re: [MBZ] 420 sel light switch

2011-11-09 Thread Dan Penoff
The only lamp in the switch is for the fog light, but it is not installed in US-spec cars. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Douglas Jones dojo...@dcacable.net wrote: Can anyone tell me if there should be a light in the light switch (I have several mbz with same switch).

Re: [MBZ] 420 sel light switch

2011-11-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Can anyone tell me if there should be a light in the light switch (I have several mbz with same switch). If there is a light, how do I replace it? There's a light in the center of the knob, it's to indicate that the rear fog light is on. The knob pulls off to access the bulb. The bezel often

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If the SRS light is on, then its the overvoltage relay. Its going to be the relay with the little flip up door and the fuse on top of it (red) between the 2 firewalls. Check the fuse, otherwise replace the relay. Ken Rushing wrote: The SRS light is on. Is there a way to test the overvoltage

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-18 Thread Jim Cathey
The SRS light is on. Is there a way to test the overvoltage relay? or idle computer or actuator? You just did. Nothing taking power from the overvoltage relay is working right. Replace its fuse, and at least try re-seating the relay. That alone may do it. These older OVP relays are pretty

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-18 Thread John Freer
Oh yeah, one other thing. Try not to drive the car in stop and go traffic until you get this fixed as the stress on the tranny will cause high heat and ultimate failure. Big bucks. John On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The SRS light is on. Is there a way

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Idle control valve -- about have the size of a coke can, connected to the air meter horn boot at the rear of the manifold (bottom half, it's sorta buried). Make sure it's connected and the hoses are intact. You should also pull the codes from the computer to see what if any error codes

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL High RPM

2009-04-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
does the SRS light come on at the same time? If so, its the overvoltage relay. If not, probably the idle computer or actuator. Ken Rushing wrote: My son has an '87 420 SEL and once started, RPM's reach 2000 at idle within 4 seconds. The linkage isn't bound and does not appear to have even

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-08 Thread Tom Hargrave
03, 2007 9:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420 again well as soon as I get the ip back on my 92 2.5turbo, I will be back in that game again. Then I will still need to sell the 420. OK Don wrote: Hmmm - my 300D 2.5 is 29.375 mpg this tank. On 11/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well as soon as I get the ip back on my 92 2.5turbo, I will be back in that game again. Then I will still need to sell the 420. OK Don wrote: Hmmm - my 300D 2.5 is 29.375 mpg this tank. On 11/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well my 420 is now up to 21mpg. --

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-03 Thread Luther
As soon as I make it to Tulsa on Monday. On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:04:19 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well as soon as I get the ip back on my 92 2.5turbo, I will be back in that game again. Then I will still need to sell the 420. OK Don wrote: Hmmm - my 300D 2.5 is

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
send more pics --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420 again That's the same as my Jeep

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
That's the same as my Jeep - interested in trading for a 1959 220S? Tom 256-656-1924 Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/02/07 03:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 420 again -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Well

Re: [MBZ] 420 again

2007-11-02 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - my 300D 2.5 is 29.375 mpg this tank. On 11/2/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well my 420 is now up to 21mpg. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC,

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
, 2007 9:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420 Well, any SDL I have ever had always got about 22-23, 27 or so on the highway. Seems like anything I have always gets lower mileage than anybody else though. Jim Cathey wrote: Well since I have sold my SDL I have been driving

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-28 Thread Allan Streib
I don't know either answer. I'll try to find out what the status of the vehicle is. The owner of the hardware store next door said that they occasionally auction off unclaimed vehicles. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:22 AM, Luther wrote: What year??? What color

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, any SDL I have ever had always got about 22-23, 27 or so on the highway. Seems like anything I have always gets lower mileage than anybody else though. Jim Cathey wrote: Well since I have sold my SDL I have been driving my 90 420SEL. I have been getting 20mpg with it. The SDL got

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-27 Thread Allan Streib
Noticed a 560 SEL in an towing impound yard here today. Damage down the passenger side, but didn't look all that bad. The rest of the car seemed to be in pretty good shape, but I'd guess it's going to go to Insurance Auto Auctions, assuming it had coverage. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-27 Thread Luther
What year??? What color interior?? On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:18:15 -0500, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Noticed a 560 SEL in an towing impound yard here today. Damage down the passenger side, but didn't look all that bad. The rest of the car seemed to be in pretty good shape, but I'd

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
I found the same with my Jeep Grand Cherokee and I drive the jeep 95% of the time. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:15 AM To:

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread Harry Watkins
When you get home in your 420 SEL this afternoon, check on my part will you? Thanks Harry On 10/26/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well since I have sold my SDL I have been driving my 90 420SEL. I have been getting 20mpg with it. The SDL got 22-23. With the price of

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
why yes, yes I will. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 420 When you get home in your 420

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Diesel here is about $3.15. Your SDL got about 10% better mileage than the SEL. 10% of $31.5 is $2.83. If your gas is that price or cheaper you're saving money (assuming you're paying the same for diesel. That car needs premium? Around here thats $2.90 or more so it'd make not so much sense.

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Well since I have sold my SDL I have been driving my 90 420SEL. I have been getting 20mpg with it. The SDL got 22-23. With the price of diesel being much higher than diesel right now, the 420 seems cheaper to drive. Its got way more power and is way smoother, thats for sure. Does

Re: [MBZ] 420

2007-10-26 Thread OK Don
I get 24-26 in the SDL, and 29 city and 33 hwy in the 300D 2.5. Something was wrong with your SDL, ours turns in a very reliable 27 MPG, pretty much no matter what. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, He says it needs rear brakes as the light comes on. Is the light just an indicator there is a fluid inbalance, or faulty master cylinder? Is it the parking brake light (BRAKE) or the lining light (concentric broken circles)? The

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-12 Thread E M
Thanks Alex. Ed On 12/07/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, He says it needs rear brakes as the light comes on. Is the light just an indicator there is a fluid inbalance, or faulty master cylinder? Is it the

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop
I have a very clean 90 420SEL for sale E M wrote: Hi Everyone, Going to look at a 420 SEL later this week. I know the V8s have a test port. Is it the same as the 300E, red on #3 and black on ground if you want to have a look at the 02 sensor to see what's up with a dwell meter? Also,

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread E M
Looked at your pics and like it, but too far away. This one is local. I wanted a 560, but the few I saw and liked, people didn't want to part with them. Thanks anyway. Ed 300E On 11/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very clean 90 420SEL for sale E M wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop
so where are you located? E M wrote: Looked at your pics and like it, but too far away. This one is local. I wanted a 560, but the few I saw and liked, people didn't want to part with them. Thanks anyway. Ed 300E On 11/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread E M
central Canada. On 11/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so where are you located? E M wrote: Looked at your pics and like it, but too far away. This one is local. I wanted a 560, but the few I saw and liked, people didn't want to part with them. Thanks

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Does Central Canda mean Winnipeg, Flin Flon or Hudson's Bay? On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: central Canada. On 11/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so where are you located? E M wrote: Looked at your pics and like it, but too far away. This one is

Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL test port question?

2007-07-11 Thread E M
It means too far a drive to the US to buy a car. :-) Ed 300E On 11/07/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Central Canda mean Winnipeg, Flin Flon or Hudson's Bay? On 7/11/07, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: central Canada. On 11/07/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, Laptop [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-20 Thread OK Don
Because they designed them that way. Same reason that my '90 300D 2.5 uses a different vacuum pump from the all the other 602 engines - both before and after. Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit.

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Steve MacSween
on 7/19/06 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? Oh, you slay me. As if. Same reason there are at least two different vacuum routing

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
haha, yea Steve MacSween wrote: on 7/19/06 11:38 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? Oh, you slay me. As if. Same reason there are at

Re: [MBZ] 420/560 ignition control module

2006-07-19 Thread Luther Gulseth
to frustrate you. Is it working? Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anybody know why the ignition module would be different for a 420 and a 560? I dont see why they would need a different unit. Anybody? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89

Re: [MBZ] 420 for Sale (560 SEL)

2005-09-29 Thread James Jetton
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Re: [MBZ] 420 for Sale (560 SEL)

2005-09-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
How much and where are you located? James Jetton wrote: Hi listers, I am thinking about putting my pride and joy '87 560 SEL , 107k, up for sale. The following items have been done in the last year: New timing chain and guide rails valve stem seals valve cover gaskets new radiator hoses

Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE

2005-06-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will give you $1200 for it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1988 VERY CLEAN NO BUT MAYBE TOMORROW ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE

2005-06-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep. OK, $1450 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOPE TOO NICE OF A CAR AREN'T U IN OK ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE

2005-06-20 Thread Steve MacSween
ROTFLMAO! Actually, Kaleb is a bit hard of hearing. You sometimes have to shout to get his attention. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the left side of your keyboard is a key that says CapsLock Press it once. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DARK GRAY LIGHT GRAY INTERIOR

Re: [MBZ] 420 FOIR SALE

2005-06-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
just ask Regina. Steve MacSween wrote: ROTFLMAO! Actually, Kaleb is a bit hard of hearing. You sometimes have to shout to get his attention. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the left side of your keyboard is a key that says CapsLock Press it once. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DARK