Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2021-12-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dan says: > I ran a search on the VIN and it is a car that spent 15 of the last 20 years > in MI and has no indication of service records. What did you use to do the search? Carfax is pricey. > Is this used car market simply crazy, or am I being unrealistic? The used car market is nuts. Used

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2021-12-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Probably not for the market. Dan wants a yellow one but I think that would command a lower price for most people. There's a reason that most cars are white, black, or silver. On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, at 5:40 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Isn’t it the wrong color? > > AZBob > > Sent from

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2021-12-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Isn’t it the wrong color? AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I see this 2002 SLK320 listed locally. Has high miles (195k) but looks > solid, despite being a stripper (no options.) I reach out to the seller and > question him

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
nt: Sunday, January 17, 2016 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz? On January 17, 2016 at 8:31 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I would prefer a diesel long wheelbase given a choice. Seats on a $4000 car shouldn't look like this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I have had 3 123 diesels & didn't think they were,very loud driving them. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On Jan 17, 2016 2:54 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > Meade wrote: > > > > A 123 diesel is just plain loud. > > It's all relative. My 123

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
> Meade wrote: A 123 diesel is just plain loud. It's all relative. My 123 diesels are the quietest in my fleet. But I don't have a 140. +1 The OM616 can be heard at idle; the 617 is less so. At road speeds, the 123 is quiet. (as is the 110 with NO hood insulation)

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Meade wrote: > > A 123 diesel is just plain loud. It's all relative. My 123 diesels are the quietest in my fleet. But I don't have a 140. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's better advice I think. Dan likes the 140, has the tools to fix them, and they are an S-class. A 123 diesel is just plain loud. Simple, reliable, fun to drive, etc: in spades. But droning along having to shout over the engine and road noise is just not too fun. - Max

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 16, 2016 at 9:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > I really like the S-class cars, regardless of vintage, so ideally I would like > to go to a W126 or W140. Diesel would be great, but it’s not absolute. My > bucket list car is a (go ahead, Kaleb, thrash

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would prefer a diesel long wheelbase given a choice. If it’s a gasser (300) I want a long wheelbase (SEL) despite Kaleb’s abuse. And yes, I know the 300SEL is a dog, and I don’t care. I like the W126 chassis, and if given the choice of a vergasser, don’t want a V8. Dan > On Jan 17,

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On January 17, 2016 at 8:31 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I would prefer a diesel long wheelbase given a choice. Seats on a $4000 car shouldn't look like this: http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/5355195806.html Hmmm, 1991 interior, 1987 engine:

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Oops, missed one. Price needs to come down a bit, but maybe he'll give it and some cash for one that's ten years newer: https://westernmass.craigslist.org/cto/5372847502.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando. 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this week. Engine replaced around 180k with a 120k engine from a 1985 300D due to the previous (original owner) breaking a timing chain. They parked it

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Haven't several of you been complaining that more and more W123 parts are becoming un-obtainium? That's why the swap could be a risky mistake. Better swap it for a W140. there are still enough 123s in junkyards. Even "overpriced" 123 parts are likely to be cheaper than 140 parts, and you'll

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have no idea why anyone would want a 300SEL. Talk about a dog. I have driven several. You have to rev the piss out of it to get it to move. On 1/16/2016 8:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: My situation boils down to this: Nice car, well cared for, everything works. I have the stuff

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We’ll see. I’m not holding my breath until I see the car. It’s in Orlando, so I probably won’t get over there until next weekend. Dan > On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Lucky you. Sounds great. > > On Jan 16, 2016 3:44 PM, "Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If I quoted the CL prices around here you would laugh, as there is no way anyone is getting them. eBay has cars in the $7k-$9k range, but I don’t see these auctions closing. Around here they’re going in the $7k range, maybe on a good day. I have toyed with the idea of listing it on eBay with

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Lucky you. Sounds great. On Jan 16, 2016 3:44 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando. > 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same color this > week. Engine replaced around 180k with

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You are insane, that dude would be getting a hell of a deal in that trade Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando. > 221k, just finishing a total

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I agree. I would much rather find a nice W126 or W140. Drop me a PM with some pictures and a description. And it has to have a title. Dan > On Jan 16, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > A 220 is worth a hell of a lot more than a 123. I got

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
OK yer killin me here, that is my buddy's car, tell me how bad the prices are there and maybe we could talk --R On 1/16/16 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why? What do you think the W220 is worth? The market for them around here is as bad as the R129 market. Trade me a nice W126

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Why? What do you think the W220 is worth? The market for them around here is as bad as the R129 market. Trade me a nice W126 diesel if you’ve got one, or a W140. Dan > On Jan 16, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > You are insane, that

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
A 220 is worth a hell of a lot more than a 123. I got a nice 140 diesel I may be tempted to trade. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why? What do you think the W220 is worth? The market for them around here > is

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
I may be tempted to get rid of the W220 and all its computer issues for a reliable W123 clay On Jan 16, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > In very preliminary discussions with the owner of a 1984 300D in Orlando. > 221k, just finishing a total glass out repaint of the same

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My situation boils down to this: Nice car, well cared for, everything works. I have the stuff required to perform diagnostics on it and make most repairs. It has needed nothing since I bought it. I’ve put about 10k miles on it, mostly due to the trip from Houston and a round trip to Mobile.

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, that's crazy, the 123 car would need to be pristine. Don't forget that a 123 diesel is LOUD. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I loved the maintenance simplicity/ease of my non-turbo 123 300TD. That little wagon could haul a lot and it still had many modern features. The ACC servo even worked most of the time. It sat un-driven for a couple years before I bought it. For a few years I only drive it around town and

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I loved the maintenance simplicity/ease of my non-turbo 123 300TD. That little wagon could haul a lot and it still had many modern features. The ACC servo even worked most of the time. It sat un-driven for a couple years before I bought it. For a few years I only drive it around town and

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2016-01-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Haven't several of you been complaining that more and more W123 parts are becoming un-obtainium? That's why the swap could be a risky mistake. Better swap it for a W140. On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I loved the maintenance

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Giving some serious thought to looking at this: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4529634045.html This final year W126 is out standing in its field. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4563219009.html How about a s320?

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That 126 looks perfect, and it has the added bonus of Florida plates installed! Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 25, 2014 7:22 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This final year W126 is out standing in its field. http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/4563219009.html

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-25 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
DON'T STARTER BUT WENT WAS PARKED 4 YEAR O WAS RUN PERFECT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CAR I AM WOMAN BUT I NEED MOVE FROM MY YARD : ASK ME QUESTION BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROBLEM I ASK 1200 On 7/25/14 7:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Giving some serious

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Not that it makes much difference, but '91 was last year for 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com; Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
That is an issue with CA cars. I got nailed for three years back fees when I purchased a car in OR with CA plates and wanted it registered in WA. Took weeks to deal with the turds working for CA .gov clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Great color combo, provided the interior isn't oogy. The $3800 price - probably depends on the maintenance history. If it drives good, mileage is accurate, and blows ice cold then worth negotiating over. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
All that non-factory chrome is pretty tacky. I'll bet it has the no-dust wheel inserts, so the front rotors are warped. I'd ditch those chrome wheels in a heartbeat, if not properly done then the alloy base metal can turn into chalky dust. Other than that, very low miles for that car, if truly

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
I’m with Max on the chrome trim, but it can all be corrected. Jon On Jul 24, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All that non-factory chrome is pretty tacky. I'll bet it has the no-dust wheel inserts, so the front rotors are warped. I'd ditch those

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Probably, but you should still buy that car. I'd say $3k but if exceptional then go a bit more. I have 2, they are easy enough to work on, not all electronicked up, and ride really nice at 80mph+. Might need new tars and the various rubber bits if it has not been driven a lot, you can use

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would probably shoot for $2500 if everything was solid and intact. Sitting for long periods like that is not a good thing and would play into the negotiations big time. The seller doesn't appear to have a lot of interest in the car based on what was said, and the price may be coming from the

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That all makes sense. That is a good car, lowish miles, looks in good shape ext/int but you will have to point out how these old dizzels like to be driven, sitting like that is not good, rubber deteriorates, tires are probably at least 10yr old (that's $500 right there for a new set). You

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. CA likes to hold cars hostage if the registration isn't current, no matter what the reason. When I bought my 1962 300SE out of a CA estate, I ended up using a bogus title service to get it clear of the nearly $2k in back fees CA wanted before they would release the title. Dan Sent

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ask if it has a trap oxidizer. :) On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Exactly. CA likes to hold cars hostage if the registration isn't current, no matter what the reason. When I bought my 1962 300SE out of a CA estate, I ended up using a

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The '87 300D I stripped parts from in the Richmond pick-n-pull still had the trap oxidizer, #14 head, ~350,000 miles on the odometer. I found no obvious reason for it to be junked, I would guess that the transmission gave up. One of the lines for the turbo boost signal to the ALDA was broken, so

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
GA is the same way. they won't register without payment of all the back taxes On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Exactly. CA likes to hold cars hostage if the registration isn't current, no matter what the reason. When I bought my 1962

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz? GA is the same way.  they won't register without payment of all

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
After I bought my '95 E300 and Rich helped me drag it home, I needed about a year to get it running, finally went to register it and was expecting to have to pay the back year. Guy at the DMV counter asked why I had not registered it after I bought it, I told him I needed some time to fix it so

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz? GA is the same way. they won't register without payment of all the back taxes On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Exactly. CA likes to hold cars hostage if the registration isn't current, no matter what

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:25:36 -0400 Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I’m with Max on the chrome trim, but it can all be corrected. Although there might be rust hiding beneath the chrome wheelwell arches. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: When I registered the Jetta the guy at the DMV noticed it hadn't been registered for 2 years Oh geez, you're going to have to pay a fine. I'd been expecting it so I asked what it would cost me. Oh geez he says, its fifty bucks. looked at me like it was my left arm he

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. CA won't transfer the title unless ALL back fees are paid. Period. I found out the hard way. Dan On Jul 24, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt wrote: When I registered the Jetta the guy at the DMV noticed it hadn't been registered for 2 years

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It's not just taxes in CA. They want registration feed for every year, EVEN if the car was off the road. Dan On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: GA is the same way. they won't register without payment of all the back taxes On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:44

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes same here in RI. I learned hard way. On Jul 24, 2014 5:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's not just taxes in CA. They want registration feed for every year, EVEN if the car was off the road. Dan On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Am I Nutz?

2014-07-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Florida has a one time fee that applies to any and all vehicles being titled and registered in the state. I believe it's something like $220 per vehicle or thereabouts. What they don't tell you is that of you have ever registered a vehicle in the state in the past and not surrendered the