Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao --Change to: License Plate Holder

2015-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's the only reason I can think of where they might refuse to supply a part 
to a particular area.  They're pretty harsh about that one and there is no way 
to get around it that know of.

However, I did like the idea of sourcing the part off of eBay Germany or some 
other country that uses the same type of license plates.

Dan

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 On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:16 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Let me try and find the number again. As you say it may be in that regional 
 security group because it's to hold the license plate.
 
 Manfred
 
 
 Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:29:23 -0400
 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 Dealer dookie.  They have to make a special request for it, like any 
 non-North American part, which they can do as a list or individual part.  My 
 dealer did it several times for me.
 As a matter of fact, they?re doing it right now.
 My R129 (1997 SL500) has a very expensive and poorly engineered interior 
 rear view mirror.  Along with all the fancy (and now worthless) electronics 
 in it, such as a programmable garage door opener, it has two very strong 
 springs that hold the ball in the socket that the mirror swivels on.  These 
 springs are so powerful that over time they stress the plastic cover to the 
 point where the plastic tangs that anchor the ends of the springs break, 
 relieving the spring pressure, allowing the mirror to swing wildly on the 
 ball because there is no longer any resistance being applied to it.  There 
 is no kludge for this, the mirror is now totally worthless (as a mirror.)
 Here?s the kicker:  MY price is almost $1,000.00.  Yes, that?s MY price, 
 which is wholesale.
 But - there?s a workaround:
 The only place they used this stupidly expensive and poorly engineered rear 
 view mirror was - you guessed it - the good old US of A.  What did they use 
 in the rest of the world?  A similar mirror that was more robust and had 
 none of the electronics in it.
 My cost:  $245.00.
 I identified the part, went to my dealer, they placed the order and I expect 
 it to be here from Germany early next week.  No questions, no problem.
 Give me the license plate frame part number and I?ll bet I can get one.  The 
 only possibility where they would potentially deny it would be if it?s 
 considered a regional safety item, that is, an option that?s in the safety 
 and security groups for a specific country or part of the world.
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao --Change to: License Plate Holder

2015-06-05 Thread MG via Mercedes
Let me try and find the number again. As you say it may be in 
that regional security group because it's to hold the license plate.


Manfred



Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:29:23 -0400
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

Dealer dookie.  They have to make a special request for it, like any non-North 
American part, which they can do as a list or individual part.  My dealer did 
it several times for me.

As a matter of fact, they?re doing it right now.

My R129 (1997 SL500) has a very expensive and poorly engineered interior rear 
view mirror.  Along with all the fancy (and now worthless) electronics in it, 
such as a programmable garage door opener, it has two very strong springs that 
hold the ball in the socket that the mirror swivels on.  These springs are so 
powerful that over time they stress the plastic cover to the point where the 
plastic tangs that anchor the ends of the springs break, relieving the spring 
pressure, allowing the mirror to swing wildly on the ball because there is no 
longer any resistance being applied to it.  There is no kludge for this, the 
mirror is now totally worthless (as a mirror.)

Here?s the kicker:  MY price is almost $1,000.00.  Yes, that?s MY price, which 
is wholesale.

But - there?s a workaround:

The only place they used this stupidly expensive and poorly engineered rear 
view mirror was - you guessed it - the good old US of A.  What did they use in 
the rest of the world?  A similar mirror that was more robust and had none of 
the electronics in it.

My cost:  $245.00.

I identified the part, went to my dealer, they placed the order and I expect it 
to be here from Germany early next week.  No questions, no problem.

Give me the license plate frame part number and I?ll bet I can get one.  The 
only possibility where they would potentially deny it would be if it?s 
considered a regional safety item, that is, an option that?s in the safety and 
security groups for a specific country or part of the world.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
More info found.
Evidently this is common taxi in Urup.

http://en.vindecoder.pl/WDB1241201A007599

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/227519-87-300d-4-cylinder-5-speed-manual.html

mao

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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Dealer dookie.  They have to make a special request for it, like any non-North 
American part, which they can do as a list or individual part.  My dealer did 
it several times for me.

As a matter of fact, they’re doing it right now.

My R129 (1997 SL500) has a very expensive and poorly engineered interior rear 
view mirror.  Along with all the fancy (and now worthless) electronics in it, 
such as a programmable garage door opener, it has two very strong springs that 
hold the ball in the socket that the mirror swivels on.  These springs are so 
powerful that over time they stress the plastic cover to the point where the 
plastic tangs that anchor the ends of the springs break, relieving the spring 
pressure, allowing the mirror to swing wildly on the ball because there is no 
longer any resistance being applied to it.  There is no kludge for this, the 
mirror is now totally worthless (as a mirror.)

Here’s the kicker:  MY price is almost $1,000.00.  Yes, that’s MY price, which 
is wholesale.

But - there’s a workaround:

The only place they used this stupidly expensive and poorly engineered rear 
view mirror was - you guessed it - the good old US of A.  What did they use in 
the rest of the world?  A similar mirror that was more robust and had none of 
the electronics in it.

My cost:  $245.00.

I identified the part, went to my dealer, they placed the order and I expect it 
to be here from Germany early next week.  No questions, no problem.

Give me the license plate frame part number and I’ll bet I can get one.  The 
only possibility where they would potentially deny it would be if it’s 
considered a regional safety item, that is, an option that’s in the safety and 
security groups for a specific country or part of the world.

Dan

 On Jun 4, 2015, at 8:14 PM, MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I tried to buy the front bumper bracket to hold a euro license plate. Was 
 told that MB would not send them over here. The dealer's service dept had 
 tried to get one a couple of years ago when one of the mechanics damaged one 
 on a customer's car, even there MB would not send a replacement. What a great 
 company.
 
 Manfred


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On June 4, 2015 at 8:03 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 More info found.
 Evidently this is common taxi in Urup.
 


Some of the cheapest W124s around yerp were 200Ds. 
Leading to a certain amount of silliness among the younger set when they hit the
bottom of the depreciation cycle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWPw_oe5VFQ

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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I tried to buy the front bumper bracket to hold a euro license 
plate. Was told that MB would not send them over here. The dealer's 
service dept had tried to get one a couple of years ago when one of 
the mechanics damaged one on a customer's car, even there MB would 
not send a replacement. What a great company.


Manfred


MomBUSA has a heavy hand and wears a bow tie.

Try fleabay.de or a euro MB forum.  Alex may have some pointers for 
sourrces.  You could try Hendrik or John or Davidie in OZ also.


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread MG via Mercedes
I tried to buy the front bumper bracket to hold a euro license 
plate. Was told that MB would not send them over here. The 
dealer's service dept had tried to get one a couple of years ago 
when one of the mechanics damaged one on a customer's car, even 
there MB would not send a replacement. What a great company.


Manfred



Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 13:10:05 -0400
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

Unlikely.

While the North America dealers may not have it in their EPC, as long as you 
can identify part numbers they can order them.

Nearly everything on the car with the exception of the engine would have been 
available on this side of the pond anyway.

When I had the 1984 250LWB (Euro spec W123) I had no problems getting engine 
parts, or for that matter, anything else. The only thing in that car that was 
not in the NA market was the engine (M123) and the body sections for the LWB 
part. Everything else was common W123 stuff.

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Unlikely.

While the North America dealers may not have it in their EPC, as long as you 
can identify part numbers they can order them.

Nearly everything on the car with the exception of the engine would have been 
available on this side of the pond anyway.

When I had the 1984 250LWB (Euro spec W123) I had no problems getting engine 
parts, or for that matter, anything else. The only thing in that car that was 
not in the NA market was the engine (M123) and the body sections for the LWB 
part. Everything else was common W123 stuff.

Dan

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 On Jun 4, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On 03/06/2015 9:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
 clay wrote:
 Maybe because we have no designation for it on this end of the pond, so the 
 seller uses a designation we will jump on.   He should have led off with 
 w124 manual trans.
 I spoke briefly with the guy - he is from Romania... yeah, probably
 sounds like scam...
 How do you put 3 liters in 4 cylinders?
 Can't anyone access Euro VIN numbers?
 Or is that a function for dealer access only?
 Seems to be an interesting MB assemblage.
 mao
 
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 So, if it is a European model, never imported to North America, are parts 
 going to be difficult to come by?
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
You should be able to find part numbers that are different from USA 
models on one of the rooskie websites.  I'd be the classic center can 
help also.  124 is out of production 20 years now.


I looked up the 123 door pod on autohausAz last night and they are a 
buck more than the Classic Center.


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-04 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 03/06/2015 9:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

clay wrote:

Maybe because we have no designation for it on this end of the pond, so the 
seller uses a designation we will jump on.   He should have led off with w124 
manual trans.


I spoke briefly with the guy - he is from Romania... yeah, probably
sounds like scam...
How do you put 3 liters in 4 cylinders?
Can't anyone access Euro VIN numbers?
Or is that a function for dealer access only?
Seems to be an interesting MB assemblage.
mao

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So, if it is a European model, never imported to North America, are 
parts going to be difficult to come by?


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5055658078.html


If the fan shroud fit, I'd assume it was an ordinary 200D.
Very low chassis number, sure it isn't a 1986 that was imported in 1987?


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5055658078.html

Rick
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I looked at the pictures, but I didn't see a body stile.
Neither did I see the 2,3 litters on the engine.

At least it is NOT black!

15 bundts?  if so, they may be worth the price of the car.

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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

A 4 cyl 300D?  How dey do dat?

Wilton

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http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5055658078.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I was thinking if someone had an OM60x turbo to stick in it, it could 
be a nice car.  I still don't see the body stile.   (steps over the 
body)


The engine air intake looks wrong too.  just hanging out in space



That car looks totally mickey mouse.  I see that the cooling fan sits about
6 inches back from the shroud on the radiator, so something really odd is
going on there.  Also, the serp. belt has been replaced with a shorter
version to omit the AC compressor, so AC doesn't work.  Engine wiring and
coolant hoses also look strange.  No ABS?

Maybe the engine is not original, someone replaced the original six
cylinder with a four?  Or maybe they swapped the badge on the trunk?

Online EPC says the datacard is not available for that VIN.

On the positive side: Manual transmission, manual HVAC controls, manual
seats, maybe no sunroof?

-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That car looks totally mickey mouse.  I see that the cooling fan sits about
6 inches back from the shroud on the radiator, so something really odd is
going on there.  Also, the serp. belt has been replaced with a shorter
version to omit the AC compressor, so AC doesn't work.  Engine wiring and
coolant hoses also look strange.  No ABS?

Maybe the engine is not original, someone replaced the original six
cylinder with a four?  Or maybe they swapped the badge on the trunk?

Online EPC says the datacard is not available for that VIN.

On the positive side: Manual transmission, manual HVAC controls, manual
seats, maybe no sunroof?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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wrote:

 A 4 cyl 300D?  How dey do dat?

 Wilton

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 Cc: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 3:37 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao


  http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5055658078.html


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

A 4 cyl 300D?  How dey do dat?


Maybe the 2.4 fell off the right side of the trunk?  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread clay via Mercedes
Maybe because we have no designation for it on this end of the pond, so the 
seller uses a designation we will jump on.   He should have led off with w124 
manual trans.

clay

On Jun 3, 2015, at 7:20 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

 A 4 cyl 300D?  How dey do dat?
 
 Wilton
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote:
 Maybe because we have no designation for it on this end of the pond, so the 
 seller uses a designation we will jump on.   He should have led off with w124 
 manual trans.


I spoke briefly with the guy - he is from Romania... yeah, probably
sounds like scam...
How do you put 3 liters in 4 cylinders?
Can't anyone access Euro VIN numbers?
Or is that a function for dealer access only?
Seems to be an interesting MB assemblage.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
W124.120 200D European delivery.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 11:08:38 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
 That car looks totally mickey mouse.  I see that the cooling fan sits about
 6 inches back from the shroud on the radiator, so something really odd is
 going on there.  Also, the serp. belt has been replaced with a shorter
 version to omit the AC compressor, so AC doesn't work.  Engine wiring and
 coolant hoses also look strange.  No ABS?
 
 Maybe the engine is not original, someone replaced the original six
 cylinder with a four?  Or maybe they swapped the badge on the trunk?
 
 Online EPC says the datacard is not available for that VIN.
 
 On the positive side: Manual transmission, manual HVAC controls, manual
 seats, maybe no sunroof?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
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 wrote:
 
  A 4 cyl 300D?  How dey do dat?
 
  Wilton
 
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  Cc: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
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  Subject: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao
 
 
   http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5055658078.html
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Car for Mao

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Maybe the rooskie websites have info on that VIN.



W124.120 200D European delivery.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.



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