Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
They could just buy Tesla and have a turn-key operation with a lot of the heavy lifting done. The autonomous stuff seems to be getting pervasive amongst a few companies so that is not a huge hurdle. We are well on our way to having the mandate that all new vehicles will have hive algorithms so that no one goes faster than another, no one can do things outside of the parameters, and all will be subject to various tariffs, taxes, fees, and licensing and permits, as well as congestion pricing, mileage limitations and assignments, design types and styles, performance standards, and various other hugely effective social engineering goals -- cooperative autonomy. And no fun allowed! And all this will be controlled by a huge new bureaucracy similar to that which has had great success, say, delivering medical care to veterans or affordable care to millions or collecting taxes efficiently and without corruption. Of course we will have to invest $billions with the new companies that spring up, like Solyndra or the A123 battery companies that have gone bust despite these investments. Now we might have a few false starts, though the companies' owners will walk away with the $billions somehow (a good part of which will be reassigned to certain political committees), but overall it will be a great stimulus! --R On 6/17/15 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Apple could dominate market -- analystPublished: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Apple Inc.'s reach could soon include electric automobiles, according to an industry analyst. If the world's most valuable company were to design and engineer a car, we are convinced it would be 100 percent a battery electric propulsion system, wrote Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas to investors yesterday. The company has reportedly already created a team to work on designing an Apple-branded car, though it has not made any comments on the topic. A lawsuit from electric-car battery maker A123 Systems this year accused Apple of poaching its employees. Apple can certainly dump resources into the project; the technology company pulls in about $15 billion in profit every business quarter, which is equal to four months of the research and development of all the world's automakers combined, Jonas said. The company could help pioneer self-driving cars, which some see as the future of transportation in America. A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned, Jonas said. A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day (Jerry Hirsch, *Los Angeles Times* http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-apple-electric-car-20150616-story.html, June 16). *-- BTP* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
If it's anything like their computers, it'll be obsolete in three years. Imagine, them telling you that your operating system is too old, car's computer is too old to handle upgrade. Buy new car. Thanks but I'll stick to my manual everything dinosaur mobiles. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Apple could dominate market -- analystPublished: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Apple Inc.'s reach could soon include electric automobiles, according to an industry analyst. If the world's most valuable company were to design and engineer a car, we are convinced it would be 100 percent a battery electric propulsion system, wrote Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas to investors yesterday. The company has reportedly already created a team to work on designing an Apple-branded car, though it has not made any comments on the topic. A lawsuit from electric-car battery maker A123 Systems this year accused Apple of poaching its employees. Apple can certainly dump resources into the project; the technology company pulls in about $15 billion in profit every business quarter, which is equal to four months of the research and development of all the world's automakers combined, Jonas said. The company could help pioneer self-driving cars, which some see as the future of transportation in America. A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned, Jonas said. A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day (Jerry Hirsch, *Los Angeles Times* http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-apple-electric-car-20150616-story.html, June 16). *-- BTP* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
Andrew wrote: A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned, Jonas said. A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day Err. Sure. And a car that _does_ have a steering wheel and pedals clearly can't work 24 hours a day or be shared. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
That's a slick way to solve the problem where Uber drivers were declared to be employees (entitled to all benefits) vs independent contractors (another blow for unemployment). I understand McDonalds is experimenting with a self-serve experiment to combat the latest minimum wage laws. There ain't no free lunch. -Original Message- From: OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 10:23 PM It's the ultimate taxi. You won't own it, you'll just schedule a ride from where you are to where you want to go and pay through the nose for the convenience. ... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
(Long article; parts have been removed.) Six university researchers have revealed deadly zero-day flaws in Apple's iOS and OS X, claiming it is possible to crack Apple's keychain, break app sandboxes and bypass its App Store security checks so that attackers can steal passwords from any installed app including the native email client without being detected. The team was able to upload malware to the Apple app store, passing the vetting process without triggering alerts that could raid the keychain to steal passwords for services including iCloud and the Mail app, and all those store within Google Chrome...snip Apple was not immediately available for commentsnip Recently we discovered a set of surprising security vulnerabilities in Apple's Mac OS and iOS that allows a malicious app to gain unauthorised access to other apps' sensitive data such as passwords and tokens for iCloud, Mail app and all web passwords stored by Google Chrome, Xing told The Register's security desk. Our malicious apps successfully went through Apple’s vetting process and was published on Apple’s Mac app store and iOS app store. We completely cracked the keychain service - used to store passwords and other credentials for different Apple apps - and sandbox containers on OS X, and also identified new weaknesses within the inter-app communication mechanisms on OS X and iOS which can be used to steal confidential data from Evernote, Facebook and other high-profile apps. The team was able to raid banking credentials from Google Chrome on the latest Mac OS X 10.10.3, using a sandboxed app to steal the system's keychain and secret iCloud tokens, and passwords from password vaults. Photos were stolen from WeChat and the token for popular cloud service Evernote nabbed allowing it to be fully compromised. The consequences are dire, the team wrote in the paper. Some 88.6 percent of 1612 Mac and 200 iOS apps were found completely exposed to unauthorised cross-app resource access (XARA) attacks allowing malicious apps to steal otherwise secure data...snip Our study brings to light a series of unexpected, security-critical aws that can be exploited to circumvent Apple's isolation protection and its App Store's security vetting. The consequences of such attacks are devastating, leading to complete disclosure of the most sensitive user information (e.g., passwords) to a malicious app even when it is sandboxed. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/17/apple_hosed_boffins_drop_0day_mac_ios_research_blitzkrieg/ --- Dimitri wrote: If it's anything like their computers, it'll be obsolete in three years. Imagine, them telling you that your operating system is too old, car's computer is too old to handle upgrade. Buy new car. Thanks but I'll stick to my manual everything dinosaur mobiles. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Apple could dominate market -- analystPublished: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Apple Inc.'s reach could soon include electric automobiles, according to an industry analyst. If the world's most valuable company were to design and engineer a car, we are convinced it would be 100 percent a battery electric propulsion system, wrote Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas to investors yesterday. The company has reportedly already created a team to work on designing an Apple-branded car, though it has not made any comments on the topic. A lawsuit from electric-car battery maker A123 Systems this year accused Apple of poaching its employees. Apple can certainly dump resources into the project; the technology company pulls in about $15 billion in profit every business quarter, which is equal to four months of the research and development of all the world's automakers combined, Jonas said. The company could help pioneer self-driving cars, which some see as the future of transportation in America. A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned, Jonas said. A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day (Jerry Hirsch, *Los Angeles Times* http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-apple-electric-car-20150616-story.html, June 16). *-- BTP* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5961 / Virus Database: 4365/10039 - Release Date: 06/17/15 --
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
It's the American dream to hand over all decision making and control of your personal life to an overpowering control from the cradle to the grave. Just as soon as we can breed out that pesky streak of independence and will to live. Have we been invaded by an alien life force? Where do these company planners get such ideas? Ohhh. .. never mind.. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If it's anything like their computers, it'll be obsolete in three years. Imagine, them telling you that your operating system is too old, car's computer is too old to handle upgrade. Buy new car. Thanks but I'll stick to my manual everything dinosaur mobiles. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Apple could dominate market -- analystPublished: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 Apple Inc.'s reach could soon include electric automobiles, according to an industry analyst. If the world's most valuable company were to design and engineer a car, we are convinced it would be 100 percent a battery electric propulsion system, wrote Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas to investors yesterday. The company has reportedly already created a team to work on designing an Apple-branded car, though it has not made any comments on the topic. A lawsuit from electric-car battery maker A123 Systems this year accused Apple of poaching its employees. Apple can certainly dump resources into the project; the technology company pulls in about $15 billion in profit every business quarter, which is equal to four months of the research and development of all the world's automakers combined, Jonas said. The company could help pioneer self-driving cars, which some see as the future of transportation in America. A fully autonomous car is meant to be shared, not owned, Jonas said. A fully autonomous car -- as in no steering wheel, no pedals -- can work 24 hours a day (Jerry Hirsch, *Los Angeles Times* http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-apple-electric-car-20150616-story.html , June 16). *-- BTP* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Apple and the next Electric Car
It's the ultimate taxi. You won't own it, you'll just schedule a ride from where you are to where you want to go and pay through the nose for the convenience. A few rebellious souls will insist on owning their own cars, and driving them themselves for the sheer joy of it, but will be filed or sued massively when the collide with an autonomous car owned by Apple, etc., regardless of who was at fault. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 9:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It's the American dream to hand over all decision making and control of your personal life to an overpowering control from the cradle to the grave. Just as soon as we can breed out that pesky streak of independence and will to live. Have we been invaded by an alien life force? Where do these company planners get such ideas? Ohhh. .. never mind.. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
