Re: [MBZ] Britain commits to suicide

2020-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I overshot, its probably only a 30% drop from 2016 when the referendum took 
place. Apparently its rising against the euro. Actually worse against the USD...
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 10:48:55 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 Huh?  Curt, what is your news source??
 Relatively stable exchange rates.  1.13 - 1.18 over the past year.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=pound%20euro%20rates%206%20months=cosp=G6C999N10870D042019AA6B84BBD86=CONBDF=CT3210127
On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:51 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

 Other than the pound dropping 75% vs the euro?
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:07:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 *Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.*

You think?  They seem to be prospering quite nicely and likely to continue
to do so, despite leaving the EU.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:05 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
> surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.
>
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > February 5, 2020 at 9:29 AM
> > EMISSIONSU.K. bans new gas vehicles by 2035 to boost climate
> > effortPublished:
> > Wednesday, February 5, 2020
> >
> > Britain announced yesterday that it plans to ban the sale of new gas and
> > diesel cars by 2035 — five years earlier than its previous target — in a
> > bid to speed up efforts to tackle climate change.
> >
> > The announcement was timed to coincide with the launch of Britain's plans
> > for the United Nations' climate summit, known as the Conference of the
> > Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP 26),
> which
> > is scheduled to be held in Glasgow in November.
> >
> > But the U.K. government's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions
> > was questioned by the woman who was appointed by Prime Minister Boris
> > Johnson to head the Glasgow climate summit — and then was fired last
> week.
> >
> > Sacked conference President Claire O'Neill said Britain's efforts to
> fight
> > climate change were "miles off track."
> >
> > Britain has pledged to reduce its net greenhouse gas emissions to zero by
> > 2050. But the government's advisory Committee on Climate Change has
> warned
> > that the country's action to slash carbon dioxide and other gases that
> > contribute to global warming is lagging far behind what is needed.
> >
> > The U.K.'s new 2035 target for ending gas and diesel car sales is one of
> > the world's more ambitious. Several countries, including France, plan to
> > stop by 2040. Norway — one of the most aggressive early adopters of
> > electric cars — has a goal, but not a requirement, to eliminate petrol
> and
> > diesel cars, excluding hybrids, by 2025.
> >
> > The U.K. says it will bring in a ban on fossil fuel cars and vans even
> > earlier than 2035 "if a faster transition is feasible." The ban will also
> > include hybrid vehicles.
> >
> > But environmental groups said Britain's goal is not ambitious enough.
> >
> > Rebecca Newsom, head of politics at Greenpeace U.K., said "phasing out
> the
> > internal combustion engine faster is an important piece of the puzzle."
> >
> > "However, pushing the date later than 2030 would vastly reduce the
> chances
> > of meeting our climate targets, and the potential to deliver thousands of
> > electric vehicle manufacturing jobs," she said.
> >
> > The auto industry reacted coolly to the announcement. Mike Hawes, chief
> > executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, said the
> > automakers were already moving toward "a zero emissions future," and said
> > the government had "moved the goalposts for consumers and industry."
> >
> > Johnson kicked off a year of buildup to the climate conference yesterday
> > alongside naturalist David Attenborough and Italian Prime Minister
> > Giuseppe
> > Conte at London's Science Museum. Italy is hosting a preparatory meeting
> > for the conference.
> >
> > The British prime minister said the world had seen "a catastrophic period
> > of global addiction to hydrocarbons that got totally out of control."
> >
> > "We have to deal with our CO2 emissions. And that is why the U.K. is
> > calling for us to get to net zero as soon as possible, for every
> > country to
> > announce credible targets to get there — that's what we want from
> > Glasgow,"
> > Johnson said. "And that's why we have pledged here in the U.K. to deliver
> > net zero by 2050."
> >
> > Britain's tenure at the helm of COP 26 is getting off to a rocky start.
> On
> > Friday, Johnson sacked O'Neill, a former British government minister
> > appointed last year to head up the event.
> >
> > The Conservative government said it had decided that a current government
> > minister should fill the role but gave no reason for the change of
> > heart. A
> > replacement has not been announced.
> >
> 

Re: [MBZ] Britain commits to suicide

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Huh?  Curt, what is your news source??

Relatively stable exchange rates.  1.13 - 1.18 over the past year.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=pound%20euro%20rates%206%20months=cosp=G6C999N10870D042019AA6B84BBD86=CONBDF=CT3210127

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 8:51 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Other than the pound dropping 75% vs the euro?
>
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:07:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> *Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
> surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.*
>
> You think?  They seem to be prospering quite nicely and likely to continue
> to do so, despite leaving the EU.
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:05 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
> > surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.
> >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > > February 5, 2020 at 9:29 AM
> > > EMISSIONSU.K. bans new gas vehicles by 2035 to boost climate
> > > effortPublished:
> > > Wednesday, February 5, 2020
> > >
> > > Britain announced yesterday that it plans to ban the sale of new gas
> and
> > > diesel cars by 2035 — five years earlier than its previous target — in
> a
> > > bid to speed up efforts to tackle climate change.
> > >
> > > The announcement was timed to coincide with the launch of Britain's
> plans
> > > for the United Nations' climate summit, known as the Conference of the
> > > Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP 26),
> > which
> > > is scheduled to be held in Glasgow in November.
> > >
> > > But the U.K. government's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas
> emissions
> > > was questioned by the woman who was appointed by Prime Minister Boris
> > > Johnson to head the Glasgow climate summit — and then was fired last
> > week.
> > >
> > > Sacked conference President Claire O'Neill said Britain's efforts to
> > fight
> > > climate change were "miles off track."
> > >
> > > Britain has pledged to reduce its net greenhouse gas emissions to zero
> by
> > > 2050. But the government's advisory Committee on Climate Change has
> > warned
> > > that the country's action to slash carbon dioxide and other gases that
> > > contribute to global warming is lagging far behind what is needed.
> > >
> > > The U.K.'s new 2035 target for ending gas and diesel car sales is one
> of
> > > the world's more ambitious. Several countries, including France, plan
> to
> > > stop by 2040. Norway — one of the most aggressive early adopters of
> > > electric cars — has a goal, but not a requirement, to eliminate petrol
> > and
> > > diesel cars, excluding hybrids, by 2025.
> > >
> > > The U.K. says it will bring in a ban on fossil fuel cars and vans even
> > > earlier than 2035 "if a faster transition is feasible." The ban will
> also
> > > include hybrid vehicles.
> > >
> > > But environmental groups said Britain's goal is not ambitious enough.
> > >
> > > Rebecca Newsom, head of politics at Greenpeace U.K., said "phasing out
> > the
> > > internal combustion engine faster is an important piece of the puzzle."
> > >
> > > "However, pushing the date later than 2030 would vastly reduce the
> > chances
> > > of meeting our climate targets, and the potential to deliver thousands
> of
> > > electric vehicle manufacturing jobs," she said.
> > >
> > > The auto industry reacted coolly to the announcement. Mike Hawes, chief
> > > executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, said the
> > > automakers were already moving toward "a zero emissions future," and
> said
> > > the government had "moved the goalposts for consumers and industry."
> > >
> > > Johnson kicked off a year of buildup to the climate conference
> yesterday
> > > alongside naturalist David Attenborough and Italian Prime Minister
> > > Giuseppe
> > > Conte at London's Science Museum. Italy is hosting a preparatory
> meeting
> > > for the conference.
> > >
> > > The British prime minister said the world had seen "a catastrophic
> period
> > > of global addiction to hydrocarbons that got totally out of control."
> > >
> > > "We have to deal with our CO2 emissions. And that is why the U.K. is
> > > calling for us to get to net zero as soon as possible, for every
> > > country to
> > > announce credible targets to get there — that's what we want from
> > > Glasgow,"
> > > Johnson said. "And that's why we have pledged here in the U.K. to
> deliver
> > > net zero by 2050."
> > >
> > > Britain's tenure at the helm of COP 26 is getting off to a rocky start.
> > On
> > > Friday, Johnson sacked O'Neill, a former British government minister
> > > appointed last year to head up the event.
> > >
> > > The Conservative government said it had decided that a current
> government
> > > minister should fill the role but gave no reason for the change of
> > > heart. A
> > > replacement has not been announced.
> > >
> > > O'Neill strongly 

Re: [MBZ] Britain commits to suicide

2020-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Other than the pound dropping 75% vs the euro?
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, 12:07:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 *Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.*

You think?  They seem to be prospering quite nicely and likely to continue
to do so, despite leaving the EU.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:05 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
> surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.
>
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > February 5, 2020 at 9:29 AM
> > EMISSIONSU.K. bans new gas vehicles by 2035 to boost climate
> > effortPublished:
> > Wednesday, February 5, 2020
> >
> > Britain announced yesterday that it plans to ban the sale of new gas and
> > diesel cars by 2035 — five years earlier than its previous target — in a
> > bid to speed up efforts to tackle climate change.
> >
> > The announcement was timed to coincide with the launch of Britain's plans
> > for the United Nations' climate summit, known as the Conference of the
> > Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP 26),
> which
> > is scheduled to be held in Glasgow in November.
> >
> > But the U.K. government's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions
> > was questioned by the woman who was appointed by Prime Minister Boris
> > Johnson to head the Glasgow climate summit — and then was fired last
> week.
> >
> > Sacked conference President Claire O'Neill said Britain's efforts to
> fight
> > climate change were "miles off track."
> >
> > Britain has pledged to reduce its net greenhouse gas emissions to zero by
> > 2050. But the government's advisory Committee on Climate Change has
> warned
> > that the country's action to slash carbon dioxide and other gases that
> > contribute to global warming is lagging far behind what is needed.
> >
> > The U.K.'s new 2035 target for ending gas and diesel car sales is one of
> > the world's more ambitious. Several countries, including France, plan to
> > stop by 2040. Norway — one of the most aggressive early adopters of
> > electric cars — has a goal, but not a requirement, to eliminate petrol
> and
> > diesel cars, excluding hybrids, by 2025.
> >
> > The U.K. says it will bring in a ban on fossil fuel cars and vans even
> > earlier than 2035 "if a faster transition is feasible." The ban will also
> > include hybrid vehicles.
> >
> > But environmental groups said Britain's goal is not ambitious enough.
> >
> > Rebecca Newsom, head of politics at Greenpeace U.K., said "phasing out
> the
> > internal combustion engine faster is an important piece of the puzzle."
> >
> > "However, pushing the date later than 2030 would vastly reduce the
> chances
> > of meeting our climate targets, and the potential to deliver thousands of
> > electric vehicle manufacturing jobs," she said.
> >
> > The auto industry reacted coolly to the announcement. Mike Hawes, chief
> > executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, said the
> > automakers were already moving toward "a zero emissions future," and said
> > the government had "moved the goalposts for consumers and industry."
> >
> > Johnson kicked off a year of buildup to the climate conference yesterday
> > alongside naturalist David Attenborough and Italian Prime Minister
> > Giuseppe
> > Conte at London's Science Museum. Italy is hosting a preparatory meeting
> > for the conference.
> >
> > The British prime minister said the world had seen "a catastrophic period
> > of global addiction to hydrocarbons that got totally out of control."
> >
> > "We have to deal with our CO2 emissions. And that is why the U.K. is
> > calling for us to get to net zero as soon as possible, for every
> > country to
> > announce credible targets to get there — that's what we want from
> > Glasgow,"
> > Johnson said. "And that's why we have pledged here in the U.K. to deliver
> > net zero by 2050."
> >
> > Britain's tenure at the helm of COP 26 is getting off to a rocky start.
> On
> > Friday, Johnson sacked O'Neill, a former British government minister
> > appointed last year to head up the event.
> >
> > The Conservative government said it had decided that a current government
> > minister should fill the role but gave no reason for the change of
> > heart. A
> > replacement has not been announced.
> >
> > O'Neill strongly criticized the prime minister in a letter published
> > yesterday in the *Financial Times*.
> >
> > "When you asked me to be your COP President ... you promised to 'lead
> from
> > the front' and asked me what was needed: 'money, people, just tell us!'"
> > she wrote. "Sadly, these promises and offers are not close to being met."
> >
> > The prime minister's spokesman, James Slack, declined to respond to
> > O'Neill's criticisms. *— Jill Lawless, Associated Press*
> > 

Re: [MBZ] Britain commits to suicide

2020-02-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.*

You think?  They seem to be prospering quite nicely and likely to continue
to do so, despite leaving the EU.

On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 11:05 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Already overrun by third world EU "immigrant" invaders in London and
> surrounds, Great Britain commits to suicide.
>
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > February 5, 2020 at 9:29 AM
> > EMISSIONSU.K. bans new gas vehicles by 2035 to boost climate
> > effortPublished:
> > Wednesday, February 5, 2020
> >
> > Britain announced yesterday that it plans to ban the sale of new gas and
> > diesel cars by 2035 — five years earlier than its previous target — in a
> > bid to speed up efforts to tackle climate change.
> >
> > The announcement was timed to coincide with the launch of Britain's plans
> > for the United Nations' climate summit, known as the Conference of the
> > Parties to the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP 26),
> which
> > is scheduled to be held in Glasgow in November.
> >
> > But the U.K. government's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions
> > was questioned by the woman who was appointed by Prime Minister Boris
> > Johnson to head the Glasgow climate summit — and then was fired last
> week.
> >
> > Sacked conference President Claire O'Neill said Britain's efforts to
> fight
> > climate change were "miles off track."
> >
> > Britain has pledged to reduce its net greenhouse gas emissions to zero by
> > 2050. But the government's advisory Committee on Climate Change has
> warned
> > that the country's action to slash carbon dioxide and other gases that
> > contribute to global warming is lagging far behind what is needed.
> >
> > The U.K.'s new 2035 target for ending gas and diesel car sales is one of
> > the world's more ambitious. Several countries, including France, plan to
> > stop by 2040. Norway — one of the most aggressive early adopters of
> > electric cars — has a goal, but not a requirement, to eliminate petrol
> and
> > diesel cars, excluding hybrids, by 2025.
> >
> > The U.K. says it will bring in a ban on fossil fuel cars and vans even
> > earlier than 2035 "if a faster transition is feasible." The ban will also
> > include hybrid vehicles.
> >
> > But environmental groups said Britain's goal is not ambitious enough.
> >
> > Rebecca Newsom, head of politics at Greenpeace U.K., said "phasing out
> the
> > internal combustion engine faster is an important piece of the puzzle."
> >
> > "However, pushing the date later than 2030 would vastly reduce the
> chances
> > of meeting our climate targets, and the potential to deliver thousands of
> > electric vehicle manufacturing jobs," she said.
> >
> > The auto industry reacted coolly to the announcement. Mike Hawes, chief
> > executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, said the
> > automakers were already moving toward "a zero emissions future," and said
> > the government had "moved the goalposts for consumers and industry."
> >
> > Johnson kicked off a year of buildup to the climate conference yesterday
> > alongside naturalist David Attenborough and Italian Prime Minister
> > Giuseppe
> > Conte at London's Science Museum. Italy is hosting a preparatory meeting
> > for the conference.
> >
> > The British prime minister said the world had seen "a catastrophic period
> > of global addiction to hydrocarbons that got totally out of control."
> >
> > "We have to deal with our CO2 emissions. And that is why the U.K. is
> > calling for us to get to net zero as soon as possible, for every
> > country to
> > announce credible targets to get there — that's what we want from
> > Glasgow,"
> > Johnson said. "And that's why we have pledged here in the U.K. to deliver
> > net zero by 2050."
> >
> > Britain's tenure at the helm of COP 26 is getting off to a rocky start.
> On
> > Friday, Johnson sacked O'Neill, a former British government minister
> > appointed last year to head up the event.
> >
> > The Conservative government said it had decided that a current government
> > minister should fill the role but gave no reason for the change of
> > heart. A
> > replacement has not been announced.
> >
> > O'Neill strongly criticized the prime minister in a letter published
> > yesterday in the *Financial Times*.
> >
> > "When you asked me to be your COP President ... you promised to 'lead
> from
> > the front' and asked me what was needed: 'money, people, just tell us!'"
> > she wrote. "Sadly, these promises and offers are not close to being met."
> >
> > The prime minister's spokesman, James Slack, declined to respond to
> > O'Neill's criticisms. *— Jill Lawless, Associated Press*
> > ___
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