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> Almost all of my orders lately have been going to them
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> Sent
Shipping is probably not bad for you either, since they are in Laredo Texas.
Rick
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Almost all of my orders
They ship
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> But you have to go there to buy it. My stealer would charge $1000
>
> --FT
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>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>> wrote:
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>> Cheapest price I
Almost all of my orders lately have been going to them
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> Cheapest price I could find.
>
> https://www.mbpartsource.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-automatic-transmission-valve-body-000270260080
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>
> Rick
>
That would be fine if the CP is completely fried. Sometimes if it just
the speed sensors you can send it out for repair and that is like
$200-250 with no cloning, or attempt it yourself.
Would be interesting to find out what they would charge to clone the new
one to match the car, if they
Yeah. I didn't see that at first.
Rick
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But you have to go there to buy it. My stealer would charge
And since it’s a reman item, they wan the core back, too.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> But you have to go there to buy it. My stealer would charge $1000
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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>> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>
But you have to go there to buy it. My stealer would charge $1000
--FT
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 4:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Cheapest price I could find.
>
> https://www.mbpartsource.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-automatic-transmission-valve-body-000270260080
>
>
Cheapest price I could find.
https://www.mbpartsource.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-automatic-transmission-valve-body-000270260080
Rick
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Realize that the information you see in the RevParts web sites is taken
directly form the EPC as I understand it. As many terms, especially technical
ones, don’t translate well, you often get some weird terms that don’t make
sense or seem relevant to the part described.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022,
No idea. Sometimes the descriptions and part numbers don’t match up. The
description below says
Genuine:
SKU:
000-270-26-00-80
Positions:
Upper
Other Names:
Remanufactured Rs Ctrr Unit Electrohyd, Exchange Rs Ctrr Unit Electrohyd
--FT
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib
FCP has lifetime warranty.
But why do they call it a "conductor plate" and the covington site says it's a
"valve body" and does not fit the car selected?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 13:31, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Same part number. Says it’s remanufactured which would be fine if it
Same part number. Says it’s remanufactured which would be fine if it has a
warranty. Probably one that had bad speed sensors or something and it was
repaired. You can buy those off eBay for $250 but maybe not warranty that would
be as good?
--FT
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:58 PM,
525i
Oregonia, Ohio
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Center retirement
I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer
Yes the FCP part says it needs programming. But it's also 3x the price of the
part MB Covington listed. Are they really the same thing?
https://www.mbofcovington.com/parts/order-parts.htm?path=%2Fsearch%3Fsearch_str%3D000270260080
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 12:48, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The part is sourced from MB. Only way to get a new one. But it is “virgin “ and
has no programming. You have to get MB or some third party to clone it.
--FT
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> Good point. However, MB of Covington does have
That is a good deal, then you’d have to get it programmed. They might be able
to do it if you send them the old part they can clone or they might want it in
the car. Call them and ask. The FCPEuro part will also need to be programmed
--FT
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Allan
Good point. However, MB of Covington does have a phone number and will talk to
you about parts and applications over the phone.
Interesting that they consider the conductor plate a theft relevant part. I’ll
have to ask my dealer guys/gals about this. I wonder how FCP buys this if
that’s truly
So this is an interesting example. Just as a random trial I went to
mbofcovington.comn parts page and selected 2008 E350 "Base" model as my car and
tried to find a transmission conductor plate. I'm sure it's in there, but I
could not find it by searching for "conductor plate" or "conductor" or
I’ve said this before, I’ll say it again:
Walk in the door, explain that you spend x number of dollars on parts in a
year, and you would like to spend it with them. Let them make you the offer.
I did that in 1996 at MB of Tampa and they took me up on it and gave me a
commercial discount. I
Maybe I need to approach my dealer about some sort of price deal if I steer a
lot of my parts business to them. I have dealt with them for many years. Last
time I was in there I had not been in for years but the old timers remembered
me.
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 11:12 AM,
And sadly, that is often the case. That or they create some sort of discount
construct where MBCA members get a 10% discount on parts, but what they don’t
tell you is that they mark up retail sales 15%. So you’re still paying 5% over
list.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:27 AM, Buggered Benzmail
I totally understand this.
However, if you’re buying online, there are any number of RevParts dealers
(dealers who sell parts online) that sell with very good discount models making
OE parts pretty darned cheap, relatively speaking. And I’m addressing OE parts,
not OEM parts that you can buy
> Does talk like that catch you a facebook ban?
In certain groups, yes.
Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic Center retirement
On 2022-09-01 11
I asked my local stealer why their price on a trim piece was over 2X what a
couple of the online stealers would charge (shipping of course added quite a
bit) and the parts guy told me that was their price, they wouldn’t discount. So
them. I guess the stealer owner (who owns several
All well and good if you have a dealership where you can walk in and talk to
people. I am 75 miles from an MB dealer, and it's not anywere I go on a regular
basis otherwise.
I used to buy parts from Rusty back in the day. I think he had a dealer
relationship where he could get OE parts when
Depending on what the part is, the discount model that MB of Covington uses
usually makes it a wash or slightly less than my local dealer due to sales
taxes. However, I discussed this with my dealer a few weeks ago and they said
they would match Covington’s price for me, so in the future I’ll
I have had good luck with Mercedes Benz of Northlake (NC). Ask for
wholesale parts and they will give you a discount and ship promptly.
https://www.mbnorthlake.com/parts/index.htm
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 12:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I would probably buy
I would probably buy a lot more dealer parts if my dealer was not a rip off.
The shipping from the online places usually ends up being too much.
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I think the point is, “How many of those parts are
It’s a privilege that comes with age, Rick. Enjoy it. I do.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 8:35 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> If your goal is to keep your beater on the road as long as possible and
>> cheap as possible, you're not
> the target market for these solutions.
>
> A
Does talk like that catch you a facebook ban?
On 2022-09-01 11:35, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
If your goal is to keep your beater on the road as long as possible
and cheap as possible, you're not
the target market for these solutions.
A tactfully put way of saying "if you are stupid
On 2022-09-01 11:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the
dealer?” OEM won’t make a difference.
I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the
dealer in most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE
Haha, I thought I was already being blunt!
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:35 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > If your goal is to keep your beater on the road as long as possible and
> cheap as possible, you're not
> the target market for these solutions.
>
> A
> If your goal is to keep your beater on the road as long as possible and cheap
> as possible, you're not
the target market for these solutions.
A tactfully put way of saying "if you are stupid enough to cut a hole in your
hood to roll coal onto the windscreen, we don't want your business".
I simply search on eBay using the part number. There's a lot of New Old
Stock material out there as well as aftermarket stuff.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, 10:35 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> All good points, Jaime. Thanks!
>
> It also seems (to me) that there’s a
I think the point is, “How many of those parts are you buying from the dealer?”
OEM won’t make a difference.
I mean, I even buy my soft parts such as filters and such for the dealer in
most cases. They’re maybe 10% more, but it’s an OE part, which certainly has
value.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022, at
My goal is not to keep a beater on the road as cheap as possible although some
cars that come they might fit that description. All of my drivers are properly
maintained with OE or OEM parts.
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> On Sep 1, 2022, at 9:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> Is
well said Jaime.
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, 10:15 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of suppliers
> no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective
> replacement. If there is a demand,
All good points, Jaime. Thanks!
It also seems (to me) that there’s a range of vehicles that continues to move
forward based on their age, and right now that range is the 80s and 90s models.
They’re not quite in the “classic” realm, but still in the daily driver realm
for some. I think that has
Is not that they "don't care about" them, its simply a matter of suppliers
no longer willing to make the parts and not finding a cost effective
replacement. If there is a demand, they will try to find a solution.
They're a business, not a parts charity.
Next complaint will be that reworked
2020.
-D
> On Sep 1, 2022, at 7:03 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 123 coupes.
> A lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC vacuum pods are NLA.
> As previously mentioned you can no longer get 123
How long ago was that? Now days you can’t even get door seals for 123 coupes. A
lot of 124 parts are now unavailable. Many of the ACC vacuum pods are NLA. As
previously mentioned you can no longer get 123 oil coolers or 126 SDL
radiators. Vin coded ignition tumblers for 123 124 and 126 are NLA.
Very true.
When I was “restoring” the 65 220SEb I was constantly amazed at the parts I
could still get from Mercedes, and in most cases, how relatively inexpensive
they were. For instance, I could still get a lot of rubber parts, both seals
and suspension. A full set of bushings for the rear
Try getting parts for 50s and 60s cars. You'd be amazed how easy it is.
You have to be creative in this business to find parts, but having a source
like the classic center is pretty amazing overall. It's pretty remarkable
what they do have.
For example, I just bought a vacuum pod for the
W123 turbodiesel oil coolers are NLA.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 7:53 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> SDL radiators are NLA, many common parts needed to keep these cars on the
> road are NLA.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 31, 2022, at 6:31 PM, David Bruckmann
That makes sense.
I guess I’m spoiled because my dealer parts guys are really good, and while
they might not know Classic parts, they’ll call the Classic Center for me if
there’s a question.
-D
> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:43 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> The normal dealer
SDL radiators are NLA, many common parts needed to keep these cars on the road
are NLA.
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> On Aug 31, 2022, at 6:31 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for example the
> window regulator kit (the little
I agree re; NLA parts. And not just obscure stuff, but for example the
window regulator kit (the little nylon disc and clip) is NLA. Which is nuts.
Kaleb Striplin wrote:
But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not order?
Correct? The number of common parts that are becoming NLA
great to hear.
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, 5:32 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved into a new (much
> larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired months ago, but
> hes still active online. I get
The normal dealer parts people are very ignorant when it comes to older cars
therefore I avoid them at all costs and just call the classic center.
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> On Aug 31, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> But they do not have anything that a normal dealer
But they do not have anything that a normal dealer could not order? Correct?
The number of common parts that are becoming NLA is alarming.
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> On Aug 31, 2022, at 4:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved
The classic center is alive and well, and even just moved into a new (much
larger) facility inside the Long Beach VPC. Tom retired months ago, but
hes still active online. I get parts deliveries all the time from them,
still excellent service and loads of parts in stock.
Jaime
On Wed, Aug 31,
Reverse that. Anything the Classic Center can get you can buy through a dealer.
The only question is if the dealer will order it for you. When I had the 220SEb
I heard a few complaints about dealers not wanting to order stuff that was in
Germany, but I’m not sure why unless it has an effect on
I have not heard that. I don’t think the classic center really does much
anymore anyway does it? They only have the same parts any other dealer has as
far as I know.
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> On Aug 31, 2022, at 3:14 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> I may be late to the party,
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