Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Once you have used it to do a differential drain and refill, you'll know.

Dan

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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> That is one awesome tool. How can anyone live without it?
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2016 9:48 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"  
>> wrote:
>> I have started using FCP Euro of late when I can get something OEM 
>> aftermarket, such as a fan clutch for the W140. I have been pleased with 
>> their service, but more so, their responsiveness when you make an inquiry.
>> 
>> I would also say that they appear to be making a serious effort to meet the 
>> needs of their customers. I say this due to a recent exchange I had with 
>> their marketing guy. I got an email from them listing their five best 
>> recommended specialty MB tools. They asked for suggestions if you had others 
>> to add to the list. I emailed him and suggested the Hazet drain plug wrench.
>> 
>> Within a couple of hours I got an enthusiast response from them thanking me 
>> for the suggestion and expressing surprise that they didn't offer it. 
>> They'll be adding it to their catalog shortly.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> > On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Scott informs:
>> >
>> >> ‎This is a report on my order from >FCP Euro.
>> >
>> > After reading the list, it appears you have OE quality parts. You have hit 
>> > a home run, with the assistance of FCP Euro. Don't bother trying that with 
>> > AutohausAZ. It ain't happenin'.
>> >
>> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is one awesome tool. How can anyone live without it?
On Jun 24, 2016 9:48 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I have started using FCP Euro of late when I can get something OEM
> aftermarket, such as a fan clutch for the W140. I have been pleased with
> their service, but more so, their responsiveness when you make an inquiry.
>
> I would also say that they appear to be making a serious effort to meet
> the needs of their customers. I say this due to a recent exchange I had
> with their marketing guy. I got an email from them listing their five best
> recommended specialty MB tools. They asked for suggestions if you had
> others to add to the list. I emailed him and suggested the Hazet drain plug
> wrench.
>
> Within a couple of hours I got an enthusiast response from them thanking
> me for the suggestion and expressing surprise that they didn't offer it.
> They'll be adding it to their catalog shortly.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
> > On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Scott informs:
> >
> >> ‎This is a report on my order from >FCP Euro.
> >
> > After reading the list, it appears you have OE quality parts. You have
> hit a home run, with the assistance of FCP Euro. Don't bother trying that
> with AutohausAZ. It ain't happenin'.
> >
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have started using FCP Euro of late when I can get something OEM aftermarket, 
such as a fan clutch for the W140. I have been pleased with their service, but 
more so, their responsiveness when you make an inquiry.

I would also say that they appear to be making a serious effort to meet the 
needs of their customers. I say this due to a recent exchange I had with their 
marketing guy. I got an email from them listing their five best recommended 
specialty MB tools. They asked for suggestions if you had others to add to the 
list. I emailed him and suggested the Hazet drain plug wrench.

Within a couple of hours I got an enthusiast response from them thanking me for 
the suggestion and expressing surprise that they didn't offer it. They'll be 
adding it to their catalog shortly.

Dan

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> On Jun 24, 2016, at 12:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Scott informs:
> 
>> ‎This is a report on my order from >FCP Euro.
> 
> After reading the list, it appears you have OE quality parts. You have hit a 
> home run, with the assistance of FCP Euro. Don't bother trying that with 
> AutohausAZ. It ain't happenin'.
> 
> Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Scott informs:

>‎This is a report on my order from >FCP Euro.

After reading the list, it appears you have OE quality parts. You have hit a 
home run, with the assistance of FCP Euro. Don't bother trying that with 
AutohausAZ. It ain't happenin'.

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sounds good to me.  I would use them based on what you describe.

Dan


> On Jun 23, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is a report on my order from FCP Euro.  This shipment arrived today and 
> here's what I got:
> * The flex disks were Febi Bilstein (FCP only claimed they were OEM).  
> The box says assembled in Germany from German and Polish parts.  The actual 
> flex disk has "Made in Germany" molded into the rubber.
> * The steering damper came in a plain box but STABILUS and "Made in 
> Germany" are printed on the part.
> * All the other suspension parts came in Lemforder boxes. 
> * The Guide rod mount boxes say "Made in Italy."
> * The Guide rod repair kit (attaches to LCA) boxes say "Made in Poland."
> * The LCA ball joint boxes say "Made in Germany."
> * The LCA inner bushing boxes say "Made in Italy."
> * The idler arm kit box says "Made in Germany."
> I didn’t see any indication of Asian sources but I didn’t inspect the actual 
> parts thoroughly.  I believe all boxes had the web address www.zf.com 
>   which is a German car parts company.  
> 
> Also. I accidently ordered a CV joint kit (mistaking it for a drive shaft 
> center bearing kit) and easily cancelled that part of the order online (and 
> got a refund) before it shipped.  I paid an extra $10 for UPS and delivery 
> was 3 1/2 business days.   
> 
> I don’t know any way to assess the quality of these rubber parts without 
> actually using them but I suspect they are OK, or at least as good as is now 
> available for my 35-year-old car.  If anyone knows better, please educate me. 
>  Thanks.
> 
> Cheers, Scott
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:13 AM
>> 
>> I just ordered that front end kit plus a couple flex disks for my 82 SD.  I
>> think the rubber parts are supposed to be Lemforder, which may be as good as
>> it gets these days for such an old model.  Tie rods and UCAs not included but
>> those can be replaced later one-at-a time if needed.  I'll report back if I
>> come to any conclusions on this stuff.
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

This is a report on my order from FCP Euro.  This shipment arrived today and 
here's what I got:
*   The flex disks were Febi Bilstein (FCP only claimed they were OEM).  
The box says assembled in Germany from German and Polish parts.  The actual 
flex disk has "Made in Germany" molded into the rubber.
*   The steering damper came in a plain box but STABILUS and "Made in 
Germany" are printed on the part.
*   All the other suspension parts came in Lemforder boxes. 
*   The Guide rod mount boxes say "Made in Italy."
*   The Guide rod repair kit (attaches to LCA) boxes say "Made in Poland."
*   The LCA ball joint boxes say "Made in Germany."
*   The LCA inner bushing boxes say "Made in Italy."
*   The idler arm kit box says "Made in Germany."
I didn’t see any indication of Asian sources but I didn’t inspect the actual 
parts thoroughly.  I believe all boxes had the web address www.zf.com 
  which is a German car parts company.  

Also. I accidently ordered a CV joint kit (mistaking it for a drive shaft 
center bearing kit) and easily cancelled that part of the order online (and got 
a refund) before it shipped.  I paid an extra $10 for UPS and delivery was 3 
1/2 business days.   

I don’t know any way to assess the quality of these rubber parts without 
actually using them but I suspect they are OK, or at least as good as is now 
available for my 35-year-old car.  If anyone knows better, please educate me.  
Thanks.

Cheers, Scott


> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:13 AM
> 
> I just ordered that front end kit plus a couple flex disks for my 82 SD.  I
> think the rubber parts are supposed to be Lemforder, which may be as good as
> it gets these days for such an old model.  Tie rods and UCAs not included but
> those can be replaced later one-at-a time if needed.  I'll report back if I
> come to any conclusions on this stuff.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[clay via Mercedes]

Last Lemforder parts I saw (W220 control arm) was made in Germany.  Same part 
minus the star and numbers is the aftermarket part

clay

On Jun 18, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> Even though they’re Lëmforder?  I ask because the last thing Rusty sold me 
> were Lëmforder engine mounts for the S500 coupe, and when I opened hem up 
> they had markings on them that indicated they were made in Taiwan or China.
> 
> I’m wondering if their stuff is being made offshore these days?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
>>> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
>>> people’s comments:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Scott,

In my opinion something as critical as a flex disk I would only buy from the 
dealer.  Accord to the MB of Atlanta EPC your flex disk is $112.00, part number 
1264100215.  Febi and Meyle aftermarket kits are around $46.00, which is where 
I would expect them to be compared to factory parts.

Dan



> On Jun 18, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jamie, 
>Perhaps you can give me advice on this.  I have an 82 SD with about 250K 
> miles; the flex disks and suspension rubber are original.  The flex disks 
> show some cracks and sometimes I can hear/feel some mild clunking from the 
> back seat during gear shifts.  I assume the clunking is the center bearing 
> mount on the driveshaft (or possibly the differential mount).  The car is 
> still great on the road but doesn't feel as "tight" as 20 years ago.  I have 
> not found structural rust but there is rust under the rear window gasket and 
> the paint is getting thin on top.  The engine seems fine.  I think the car is 
> worth some restoration.
>Is this Lemforder rubber is crap?  Is the new stuff likely to be worse 
> than the 35-year-old parts in the car now?  I don't mind the labor but I only 
> want to do it once.  Is there a source for good-quality rubber bits for this 
> model?  I’d rather overpay for a part that will last decades than wish I'd 
> left it alone.  I'd rather write-off the parts I already ordered than install 
> crap.
> Thanks.
> Scott


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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Just buy it all from Tom at the classic center and be done with it.
On Jun 18, 2016 12:10 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Jamie,
> Perhaps you can give me advice on this.  I have an 82 SD with about
> 250K miles; the flex disks and suspension rubber are original.  The flex
> disks show some cracks and sometimes I can hear/feel some mild clunking
> from the back seat during gear shifts.  I assume the clunking is the center
> bearing mount on the driveshaft (or possibly the differential mount).  The
> car is still great on the road but doesn't feel as "tight" as 20 years
> ago.  I have not found structural rust but there is rust under the rear
> window gasket and the paint is getting thin on top.  The engine seems
> fine.  I think the car is worth some restoration.
> Is this Lemforder rubber is crap?  Is the new stuff likely to be worse
> than the 35-year-old parts in the car now?  I don't mind the labor but I
> only want to do it once.  Is there a source for good-quality rubber bits
> for this model?  I’d rather overpay for a part that will last decades than
> wish I'd left it alone.  I'd rather write-off the parts I already ordered
> than install crap.
> Thanks.
> Scott
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:44 AM
> >
> > I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
> >
> > On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I
> > > just saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be
> > > interested in people’s comments:
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fu
> > >
> > llfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e
> > -Merc
> > > edes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-
> > 7d954baf0e-2
> > > 07551533
> > >
> > > Dan
>
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Jamie, 
Perhaps you can give me advice on this.  I have an 82 SD with about 250K 
miles; the flex disks and suspension rubber are original.  The flex disks show 
some cracks and sometimes I can hear/feel some mild clunking from the back seat 
during gear shifts.  I assume the clunking is the center bearing mount on the 
driveshaft (or possibly the differential mount).  The car is still great on the 
road but doesn't feel as "tight" as 20 years ago.  I have not found structural 
rust but there is rust under the rear window gasket and the paint is getting 
thin on top.  The engine seems fine.  I think the car is worth some restoration.
Is this Lemforder rubber is crap?  Is the new stuff likely to be worse than 
the 35-year-old parts in the car now?  I don't mind the labor but I only want 
to do it once.  Is there a source for good-quality rubber bits for this model?  
I’d rather overpay for a part that will last decades than wish I'd left it 
alone.  I'd rather write-off the parts I already ordered than install crap.
Thanks.
Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:44 AM
> 
> I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
> 
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I
> > just saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be
> > interested in people’s comments:
> >
> >
> > https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fu
> >
> llfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e
> -Merc
> > edes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-
> 7d954baf0e-2
> > 07551533
> >
> > Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Lemforder is crap these days, might as well get uro

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> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Even though they’re Lëmforder?  I ask because the last thing Rusty sold me 
> were Lëmforder engine mounts for the S500 coupe, and when I opened hem up 
> they had markings on them that indicated they were made in Taiwan or China.
> 
> I’m wondering if their stuff is being made offshore these days?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
>>> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
>>> people’s comments:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Being made offshore isn't in itself a problem, the problem is that most Chinese 
manufacturers don't do much QC so a lot of crap gets through. Watch Big Clive 
on YouTube for fun examples.
If you can force your supplier into doing QC or do it yourself they can make 
whatever quality level you want.

Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via 
Mercedes wrote:   Even though they’re Lëmforder?  I ask 
because the last thing Rusty sold me were Lëmforder engine mounts for the S500 
coupe, and when I opened hem up they had markings on them that indicated they 
were made in Taiwan or China.

I’m wondering if their stuff is being made offshore these days?

Dan



> On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
>> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
>> people’s comments:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Even though they’re Lëmforder?  I ask because the last thing Rusty sold me were 
Lëmforder engine mounts for the S500 coupe, and when I opened hem up they had 
markings on them that indicated they were made in Taiwan or China.

I’m wondering if their stuff is being made offshore these days?

Dan



> On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
>> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
>> people’s comments:
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I'd guess the parts will last 12-18 months tops



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wrote:

> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
> people’s comments:
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 00:13:01 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I just ordered that front end kit plus a couple flex disks for my 82
> SD.  I think the rubber parts are supposed to be Lemforder, which may
> be as good as it gets these days for such an old model.  Tie rods and
> UCAs not included but those can be replaced later one-at-a time if
> needed.  I'll report back if I come to any conclusions on this stuff.

Please do.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I just ordered that front end kit plus a couple flex disks for my 82 SD.  I 
think the rubber parts are supposed to be Lemforder, which may be as good as it 
gets these days for such an old model.  Tie rods and UCAs not included but 
those can be replaced later one-at-a time if needed.  I'll report back if I 
come to any conclusions on this stuff.

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> Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> Subject: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro
> 
> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just saw 
> this
> kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in people’s
> comments:
> 
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-
> w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d9
> 54baf0e-
> Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The lower ball joints press into the steering knuckle, not the LCA.
Replacing the whole LCA does avoid pressing in the inboard bushing.  In
either case you need the spring compressor, a good one.

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> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro
> 
> If you've got to replace all those parts on the front control arms,
compare the
> cost of entire new arm.  Special tools and labor required for all those
ball
> joints and bushings, you can save a lot of time and effort if you buy a
new
> control arm and all that stuff is already installed.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Dan.
> >
> > FCP Euro has been my first choice for a while now and they have always
> > provided good parts and service.
> >
> > I don't think YMMV.
> >
> > Fred.
> >
> >
> > Fred Moir.
> > Lynn MA.
> > Diesel preferred.
> >
> >
> > 
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> Penoff
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> >
> > I've used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I
> > just saw this kit they're marketing for the W126 and would be
> > interested in people's comments:
> >
> >
> > https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fu
> >
> llfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've found the idler arm bushing in particular to be important to replace. I've 
had 2 fail and when they go the steering gets VERY touchy all of a sudden. 
Fortunately they're easy to replace other than all the crap that falls in your 
face while you're doing it. Harbor Freight sells a cheap face shield thats 
totally worth having when working under the car.
I think it was on this list that I discovered the idea of using castor oil to 
lube the rubber parts which makes assembly a snap.
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro
   
No UCAs, no tierods  no idler arm bushing

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> June 17, 2016 at 9:14 AM
> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased. I just 
> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in 
> people’s comments:
>
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes performance  products exploded diagrams are so valuable for kinds of
parts.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Jun 17, 2016 10:19 AM, "Joel Cairo via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I rebuilt the SD front end a coupla years ago, there was a lot more stuff
> than that to get it all new.  I got it all from Jabba, I could probably go
> back and find the list of everything I got, it was like $900 worth of stuff
> if I recall.
>
> I think it is Performance Products that has a good exploded view of all
> the parts for front suspensions with a list and part numbers?
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/17/16 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
>> saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
>> people’s comments:
>>
>>
>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

No UCAs, no tierods  no idler arm bushing


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
June 17, 2016 at 9:14 AM
I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased. I just 
saw this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in 
people’s comments:


https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533

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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

If you've got to replace all those parts on the front control arms, compare
the cost of entire new arm.  Special tools and labor required for all those
ball joints and bushings, you can save a lot of time and effort if you buy
a new control arm and all that stuff is already installed.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan.
>
> FCP Euro has been my first choice for a while now and they have always
> provided good parts and service.
>
> I don't think YMMV.
>
> Fred.
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan Penoff
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> Subject: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro
>
> I've used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just
> saw this kit they're marketing for the W126 and would be interested in
> people's comments:
>
>
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533___
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan.

FCP Euro has been my first choice for a while now and they have always provided 
good parts and service.

I don't think YMMV.

Fred.


Fred Moir.
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Diesel preferred.



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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

I've used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just saw 
this kit they're marketing for the W126 and would be interested in people's 
comments:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533___
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Re: [MBZ] Comments on FCP Euro

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I rebuilt the SD front end a coupla years ago, there was a lot more 
stuff than that to get it all new.  I got it all from Jabba, I could 
probably go back and find the list of everything I got, it was like $900 
worth of stuff if I recall.


I think it is Performance Products that has a good exploded view of all 
the parts for front suspensions with a list and part numbers?


--JC


On 6/17/16 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve used these guys for a few things of late and been pleased.  I just saw 
this kit they’re marketing for the W126 and would be interested in people’s 
comments:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-front-end-service-kit-w126fullfront?utm_source=FCP%2BEuro%2BCustomers_campaign=7d954baf0e-Mercedes_Kit%2BReferal_medium=email_term=0_01ec419f56-7d954baf0e-207551533

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