Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-15 Thread Russ Maki
Royce Engler wrote: It was my understanding that DC built the PT Cruiser as a delivery vehicle (truck) in the European market, showed it at an auto show and the Americans demanded that they sell it over here. They couldn't keep up with demand for the first couple of yearsOTOH, it is just a

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I thought they were supposed to put a MB engine in it. Makes no sense sincemb had plenty of diesel engines. In fact, I think its about time to start putting MB truck engines in the rams. Peter Frederick wrote: The new Liberty diesel is, you guessed it, a Detroit 16:1 four banger with

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread John M McIntosh
AH, that explains it, I was wondering because Consumer Reports talked about how that engine in real world conditions got 50% less MPG than EPA numbers. I couldn't understand if it was a CDI MB engine why the numbers could be so skewed/wrong/ deceitful. Lets see VM Motori, which is owned in

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
You can have a PT Cruiser, Dodge Grand Voyager or Cheap Cherokee all with diesel in Europe...I think the 2.7 CDI from the M Class. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - wonder if I could buy the engine and have it shipped over for my Grand Voyager? The original 3.3 engine uses more oil (Mobil 1 since new) and has needed more repairs than any of my Benzs (SLC excluded) from '97 to date. On 9/13/05, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can have a PT

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Luther Gulseth
HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car engine, but that's what's made in the Mother Land. On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:01:11 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yea, I

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Christopher McCann
It's Mother Russia - Germany is the Vaterland (Father Land). CM --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car engine, but that's what's made in

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Royce Engler
body... Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market You can

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread JabbaHursty
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:10 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market You can have a PT Cruiser, Dodge Grand Voyager or Cheap Cherokee all with diesel in Europe...I think

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was my understanding that DC built the PT Cruiser as a delivery vehicle (truck) in the European market, showed it at an auto show and the Americans demanded that they sell it over here. Hmmm, no, I don't see that from two angles: one, I think the PT was either a

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley
JabbaHursty wrote: i really dug the pt cruiser. one of the cars i'd look it if i ever had an inclination to buy a new car I have no inclination to buy a small 4 cyl car that gets no better mpg than my 3.8L Taurus.

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
I doubt it was designed for Europe as the looks are just too US for them. Too vanillaI know for one that Jeremy Clarkson absolutely hates them and says so on his tv show and in his columns. This is actually a breath of fresh air as so many reviews are too mamby pamby about calling a POS a

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too vanillaI know for one that Jeremy Clarkson absolutely hates them and says so on his tv show and in his columns. Oh, yeah, by strange coincidence he seems to find British cars to be fine an inordinate amount of the time. And he whinges on about diesels ad

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
Yes, he really pisses me off with his racing against public transport. He takes a Ferrari 612 Scaglietti and drives to Switzerland while his compatriots take the train.oh, and he arrives at the same time as them all fresh as a daisy! YEAH RIGHT!! Oh, and how much did the fuel cost to run

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Jeff Zedic
He actually liked the diesel engine in the Jeep he reviewed this weekend. It was a V6 MB engine..it was the only thing he liked. It is nice to see someone have anopinion these days though.. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:58:46PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote: HELL NO. The damn MB engines are made by Detroit. Cummins makes a MUCH better product. MB makes a (well, this is questionable) kick ass car engine, but that's what's made in the Mother Land. Does anyone know how the MB

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-13 Thread Jeff Zedic
According to Jeremy Clarkson of the Times Of London, the best thing about the new Jeep *shudder* Grand Cherokee is the Mercedes V6 Diesel engine!! Wish we could get that here!! Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-13 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to Jeremy Clarkson of the Times Of London, the best thing about the new Jeep *shudder* Grand Cherokee is the Mercedes V6 Diesel engine!! LoL, would you buy one anyway? Just wait until it arrives. The automotive writers will start whinging on about this and

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-13 Thread Jeff Zedic
I just like the idea that the morons at Chrylser can get it right but always somewhere else There's ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE I would ever buy an american vehicle. I spent 2 years at a dealership that used to be Jeep and was now a Toyota. Our cars came in for oil changes, mufflers and

Re: [MBZ] Daimler Chrysler diesel hybrid prediction for US market

2005-09-13 Thread redghost
the jeep boys (buyers not sellers) like the 4 banger and are slobbering all over themselves to get the larger engine models. At least this is according to BiL who goes rock crawling in the silly things On Tuesday, September 13, 2005, at 07:27 AM, Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]