Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
On 18/08/2015 7:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Why would the sheeple buy the pitiful 40mpg gasser when the diesel is available? It was available in Canada but I don't think the diesel is available any more. They did not stand up well to day to day use from what I hear. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Why would the sheeple buy the pitiful 40mpg gasser when the diesel is available? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
Was that sold via MBUSA, or special ordered from Europe? I had no idea a diesel smart was offered in the U.S. of A. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: mercedes built diesel DIESEL SMART http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/5176506160.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
I ride so fast the wind rushing past my ears drowns out the Pioi and Teslas --R On 8/18/15 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I find this odd, is your hearing poor? I think the Prii make an awful lot of road noise for what seems like it should be a quiet car. I see them in parking lots and think I thought the engine was supposed to be off for low speed maneuvers. Heck I was surprised how much noise the Nissan Leaf made when I drove it. Everything I'd heard/read said nearly silent and if thats true most people have an odd attitude to silence. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart Speaking of Pioi, I had to go to store this morning to get a paper since mine did not show up as usual. I saw a Tesla coming through the parking lot, total stealth mode on those things. Dangerous, you can't hear them trying to run you down. I have had 2 close encounters in that parking lot, and one on the road leading out, with Pioi while riding my bike. --R On 8/18/15 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Same reason for buying a pious. It makes you fl good (cuz you are savin' tha envir'ment) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
I find this odd, is your hearing poor? I think the Prii make an awful lot of road noise for what seems like it should be a quiet car. I see them in parking lots and think I thought the engine was supposed to be off for low speed maneuvers. Heck I was surprised how much noise the Nissan Leaf made when I drove it. Everything I'd heard/read said nearly silent and if thats true most people have an odd attitude to silence. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart Speaking of Pioi, I had to go to store this morning to get a paper since mine did not show up as usual. I saw a Tesla coming through the parking lot, total stealth mode on those things. Dangerous, you can't hear them trying to run you down. I have had 2 close encounters in that parking lot, and one on the road leading out, with Pioi while riding my bike. --R On 8/18/15 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Same reason for buying a pious. It makes you fl good (cuz you are savin' tha envir'ment) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
Speaking of Pioi, I had to go to store this morning to get a paper since mine did not show up as usual. I saw a Tesla coming through the parking lot, total stealth mode on those things. Dangerous, you can't hear them trying to run you down. I have had 2 close encounters in that parking lot, and one on the road leading out, with Pioi while riding my bike. --R On 8/18/15 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Same reason for buying a pious. It makes you fl good (cuz you are savin' tha envir'ment) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
All the first-series Canadian-market Smart cars were diesels. Then they ruined it with the second series by offering only the gas model, coinciding with the start of sales into the US market. Unfortunately the B-Class, which has been offered in Canada for about a decade now, was only sold in a gasser config. Presumably to protect Smart sales. The Smart fuel economy numbers are unimpressive given what a small crappy car it is. Even my 2002 Golf TDI got pretty close numbers, and there are now numerous other vehicles on the European market, normal in size, that get better fuel results. The real problem with those first Smarts cars is the transmission, which is undeniably horrendous. On Aug 18, 2015, at 07:44, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: mercedes built diesel DIESEL SMART http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/5176506160.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
This may be a gray market car. The only one I ever saw was at a Winnipeg dealership. They wanted $15k for it as a used car, IIRC. It may have been a cabriolet. In any case, the fuel economy is SICK and I would love to own one. On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm pretty sure it wasn't. Why would the sheeple buy the pitiful 40mpg gasser when the diesel is available? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
A 2002 Golf TDI should stomp on a Smart Car's fuel economy numbers.Golf is rated for 35/44 with the user average on fueleconomy.gov at 48, 2012 Smart Coupe is rated for 34/38 with the user number at 38.My '98 Jetta has regularly been turning in numbers over 50 this summer. I suspect the 2005 Golf I just got with its more powerful engine to be slightly below that. This is why the Smart makes no sense. Its too expensive and the fuel economy sucks for what you get. For the same price you could buy any other sub-compact, get twice as big a car and the same or BETTER fuel economy numbers. -Curt From: David Bruckmann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart All the first-series Canadian-market Smart cars were diesels. Then they ruined it with the second series by offering only the gas model, coinciding with the start of sales into the US market. Unfortunately the B-Class, which has been offered in Canada for about a decade now, was only sold in a gasser config. Presumably to protect Smart sales. The Smart fuel economy numbers are unimpressive given what a small crappy car it is. Even my 2002 Golf TDI got pretty close numbers, and there are now numerous other vehicles on the European market, normal in size, that get better fuel results. The real problem with those first Smarts cars is the transmission, which is undeniably horrendous. On Aug 18, 2015, at 07:44, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: mercedes built diesel DIESEL SMART http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/5176506160.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart
A 2002 Golf TDI should stomp on a Smart Car's fuel economy numbers.Golf is rated for 35/44 with the user average on fueleconomy.gov at 48, 2012 Smart Coupe is rated for 34/38 with the user number at 38.My '98 Jetta has regularly been turning in numbers over 50 this summer. I suspect the 2005 Golf I just got with its more powerful engine to be slightly below that. This is why the Smart makes no sense. Its too expensive and the fuel economy sucks for what you get. For the same price you could buy any other sub-compact, get twice as big a car and the same or BETTER fuel economy numbers. -Curt From: David Bruckmann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel smart All the first-series Canadian-market Smart cars were diesels. Then they ruined it with the second series by offering only the gas model, coinciding with the start of sales into the US market. Unfortunately the B-Class, which has been offered in Canada for about a decade now, was only sold in a gasser config. Presumably to protect Smart sales. The Smart fuel economy numbers are unimpressive given what a small crappy car it is. Even my 2002 Golf TDI got pretty close numbers, and there are now numerous other vehicles on the European market, normal in size, that get better fuel results. The real problem with those first Smarts cars is the transmission, which is undeniably horrendous. Same reason for buying a pious. It makes you fl good (cuz you are savin' tha envir'ment) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com