Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
Jim wrote:<> Good suggestion. I bought a oyster knife years ago for that purpose and many more. It has a slightly larger blade than a butter knife -- One of the best tools I have. My wonder-knife is an antique (? that's where I bought it!) wood-handled carbon steel knife, shaped like a butter knife (broad, that is, not pointy) but borderline sharp on one edge and very thin on the other. It's whippy and strong, I use it a _lot_ on these jobs. Particularly on doors, it's good for popping the clips on pre-201's, prying out the plastic bits around the door handles, slicing loose or tucking in weatherstrip, etc. Besides being thin, I think it's main virtue comes from its flexibility. If you start prying 'too hard' it bends, and if you twist 'too hard' it starts chewing into your thumb. Serves to warn you that you're probably going to break something, so back off and try something else. The oyster knives I've used all seem to me (in my mind) to be too stout and fat, more like using a screwdriver. They're strong, though! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
What yr./model car is this?. On 11/22/06, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, one of yous guys was right about those stinkin' plastic clips. Score is: Clips 5 Me 2...and the twI managed not to break are quite mangled. I'll get new ones. The old one came off easily...except around the door check where the thing was glued big time. When I took the pin out of the door check strap, I noticed the other end of the check which, I suppose is supposed to be attached inside the door, was disconnected. I took the strap out of the hole in the door where it lives and the pin/roller thingy that should be in the door is bent into a "C" shape. Odd. I haven't taken the door panel off to look inside since I don't have standby clips (I know I'll break some). Do I need a whole new check or can I just get the piece which I bet isn't supposed to be in the shape of a "C"? Bob Rentfro ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
Jim wrote:<> Good suggestion. I bought a oyster knife years ago for that purpose and many more. It has a slightly larger blade than a butter knife -- One of the best tools I have. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement The door seal is attempting to kick my booty. That lower inside compound angle thingy has won for this evening. Soapy water can be an assembly aid. As is a butter knife for tucking it into the channel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.13/546 - Release Date: 11/22/2006
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
The door seal is attempting to kick my booty. That lower inside compound angle thingy has won for this evening. Soapy water can be an assembly aid. As is a butter knife for tucking it into the channel. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
I reckon I'll order a new door check from Rusty. The door seal is attempting to kick my booty. That lower inside compound angle thingy has won for this evening. Too many people are now home for me to continue to do car work...the bad words carry into the house. The new radiator and hoses came today. I suppose I'll get up tomorrow and swap out the radiator and hoses and finish the door seal...then go to bed since I have to work tomorrow. Someone has to make the electricity so y'all can sit around and digest your meal while lounging around in your beautifully lit and cozily warm homes. Eat like mad! Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement When I took the pin out of the door check strap, I noticed the other end of the check which, I suppose is supposed to be attached inside the door, was disconnected. I took the strap out of the hole in the door where it lives and the pin/roller thingy that should be in the door is bent into a "C" shape. Odd. Not odd. Broken. I haven't taken the door panel off to look inside since I don't have standby clips (I know I'll break some). Do I need a whole new check or can I just get the piece which I bet isn't supposed to be in the shape of a "C"? Whole new door check mechanism. FWIW, the older cars had a roller-bearing arrangement pinned against a shaped track by a multi-leaf spring. The design was probably a lifetime deal but the _implementation_ was not, because the body was pot metal and not steel, and almost always broke in a few common places rendering the spring nonfunctional. (Perhaps if the pot metal were a bit thicker in those areas it would have been OK anyway.) Then the door just flopped open and closed. Being pot metal, even though you usually had all the pieces it could not be successfully repaired. The new design uses the spring-loaded BB cartridge sliding in a detented steel channel track. The fatal flaw there is that the lubrication fails and the BB's stop sliding properly and the door jams in position. Then the natural application of brute force by the passenger either bends the strap itself into a pretzel, like yours, or the BB carrier gets a hole blown in the side and the BB escapes from the mechanism and again the door just flops open and closed, like mine. Often with grunching noises as the now-exposed spring ends hang up in the detent holes and break off. (The BB's, btw, are about 1/2" in diameter, and make excellent slingshot ammo.) Either mechanism is pretty easy to replace, the hardest part is getting the door panel off and on. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Replacement
When I took the pin out of the door check strap, I noticed the other end of the check which, I suppose is supposed to be attached inside the door, was disconnected. I took the strap out of the hole in the door where it lives and the pin/roller thingy that should be in the door is bent into a "C" shape. Odd. Not odd. Broken. I haven't taken the door panel off to look inside since I don't have standby clips (I know I'll break some). Do I need a whole new check or can I just get the piece which I bet isn't supposed to be in the shape of a "C"? Whole new door check mechanism. FWIW, the older cars had a roller-bearing arrangement pinned against a shaped track by a multi-leaf spring. The design was probably a lifetime deal but the _implementation_ was not, because the body was pot metal and not steel, and almost always broke in a few common places rendering the spring nonfunctional. (Perhaps if the pot metal were a bit thicker in those areas it would have been OK anyway.) Then the door just flopped open and closed. Being pot metal, even though you usually had all the pieces it could not be successfully repaired. The new design uses the spring-loaded BB cartridge sliding in a detented steel channel track. The fatal flaw there is that the lubrication fails and the BB's stop sliding properly and the door jams in position. Then the natural application of brute force by the passenger either bends the strap itself into a pretzel, like yours, or the BB carrier gets a hole blown in the side and the BB escapes from the mechanism and again the door just flops open and closed, like mine. Often with grunching noises as the now-exposed spring ends hang up in the detent holes and break off. (The BB's, btw, are about 1/2" in diameter, and make excellent slingshot ammo.) Either mechanism is pretty easy to replace, the hardest part is getting the door panel off and on. -- Jim
