Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I know, I'm a natural skeptic too but I've seen it work really well to find all 
sorts of things.
Neither of us has done an dowsing for pay, its one of those things, would that 
be like killing the golden goose?The guy that taught me was the grandfather of 
a kid I was in Boy Scouts with. He was a professional dowser and went to a lot 
of places where they'd had trouble finding water and always found it.
I'm not opposed to thinking that theres some force that we don't know about yet 
thats at work here, after all there are forces we use every day that have only 
recently really become understood. It wasn't so long ago that radio was 
"magic"
-Curt

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 Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 11:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric
   
Count me a sceptic.  I'm pretty sure that any random spot in your example had 
good odds of producing water, and extensive (expensive) testing would show 
that.  You and your father probably have good local knowledge of the hydrology 
in your locale, the dowsing rod is, in my opinion, simply a way to let your 
subconscious mind communicate its best guess.  Fly your dad to a random locale 
that he has no knowledge of, and I'll bet that the odds of his dowsing success 
would be exactly the same as randomly picking a spot.

So, does it work for finding water?  Sure!  Maybe one can find other things 
too, but all dowsing really is (in my opinion) is a way to make your very best 
guess.  Like any skill, practice makes perfect, so I'll bet that your dad is 
very good at it.  Can he turn it into an income generator?  THAT would be fun!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Its not so hard, my dad was teaching Angie when we were at camp last month.
Getcha two pieces of wire, I don't know that they have to be ferrous although 
thats what I see used most often. Its probably most important that it feels 
good to you. Bend your 90s, hold the wires loosely and think hard about what 
you're looking for. Dad uses a funny hand position but I've never felt the 
need. 
I've never had much luck with a forked stick though dad does that too 
sometimes, again he uses a funny hand position with his palms up.
Dad and I are both real good at finding water. I remember once he was finding 
water for a friend, he looked around about a minute and found a real good spot 
but it was right where the septic was supposed to go. We hunted around a bit 
more and found another spot. I said 200 feet, dad said 300. The well driller 
hit at 250, he knew my dad and wasn't real surprised...
-Curt     




  
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Grad school.
On Jul 1, 2016 11:04 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Teach you that in College?
>
> ;)
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Willow works best.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Teach you that in College?

;)

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Willow works best.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Count me a sceptic.  I'm pretty sure that any random spot in your example
had good odds of producing water, and extensive (expensive) testing would
show that.  You and your father probably have good local knowledge of the
hydrology in your locale, the dowsing rod is, in my opinion, simply a way
to let your subconscious mind communicate its best guess.  Fly your dad to
a random locale that he has no knowledge of, and I'll bet that the odds of
his dowsing success would be exactly the same as randomly picking a spot.

So, does it work for finding water?  Sure!  Maybe one can find other things
too, but all dowsing really is (in my opinion) is a way to make your very
best guess.  Like any skill, practice makes perfect, so I'll bet that your
dad is very good at it.  Can he turn it into an income generator?  THAT
would be fun!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Its not so hard, my dad was teaching Angie when we were at camp last month.
> Getcha two pieces of wire, I don't know that they have to be ferrous
> although thats what I see used most often. Its probably most important that
> it feels good to you. Bend your 90s, hold the wires loosely and think hard
> about what you're looking for. Dad uses a funny hand position but I've
> never felt the need.
> I've never had much luck with a forked stick though dad does that too
> sometimes, again he uses a funny hand position with his palms up.
> Dad and I are both real good at finding water. I remember once he was
> finding water for a friend, he looked around about a minute and found a
> real good spot but it was right where the septic was supposed to go. We
> hunted around a bit more and found another spot. I said 200 feet, dad said
> 300. The well driller hit at 250, he knew my dad and wasn't real
> surprised...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Willow works best.

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Its not so hard, my dad was teaching Angie when we were at camp last month.
> Getcha two pieces of wire, I don't know that they have to be ferrous
> although thats what I see used most often. Its probably most important that
> it feels good to you. Bend your 90s, hold the wires loosely and think hard
> about what you're looking for. Dad uses a funny hand position but I've
> never felt the need.
> I've never had much luck with a forked stick though dad does that too
> sometimes, again he uses a funny hand position with his palms up.
> Dad and I are both real good at finding water. I remember once he was
> finding water for a friend, he looked around about a minute and found a
> real good spot but it was right where the septic was supposed to go. We
> hunted around a bit more and found another spot. I said 200 feet, dad said
> 300. The well driller hit at 250, he knew my dad and wasn't real
> surprised...
> -Curt
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>  Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:45 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric
>
> Are any of us okiebenz readers familiar with dowsing?
> What is the best material to use for dowsing?
>
> The barn here has electric electric outlets and lights but we are
> unable to locate the power feed from the nearby warehouse onsite.  In
> the barn the feed comes in from under thr concrete slab.  The 3-wires
> are in conduit.  The 3-wires are 600V direct bury cable to which
> standard 120V inside wires were attached, but are currently cut.  So
> the wires in the barn are currently connected to an extension cord
> with male 3-prong end, i.e. the means of electricity for lights and
> outlets could be provided by a generator.  There is no generator
> onsite.  The warehouse appears to have a couple of possible buried
> feeds or breaker panels that might have been the power to the barn but
> so far - no luck finding the breaker panel or path of buried cable
> run.  Dowsing seemed the next best means to find the feed... maybe?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its not so hard, my dad was teaching Angie when we were at camp last month.
Getcha two pieces of wire, I don't know that they have to be ferrous although 
thats what I see used most often. Its probably most important that it feels 
good to you. Bend your 90s, hold the wires loosely and think hard about what 
you're looking for. Dad uses a funny hand position but I've never felt the 
need. 
I've never had much luck with a forked stick though dad does that too 
sometimes, again he uses a funny hand position with his palms up.
Dad and I are both real good at finding water. I remember once he was finding 
water for a friend, he looked around about a minute and found a real good spot 
but it was right where the septic was supposed to go. We hunted around a bit 
more and found another spot. I said 200 feet, dad said 300. The well driller 
hit at 250, he knew my dad and wasn't real surprised...
-Curt
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Cc: Mountain Man 
 Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric
   
Are any of us okiebenz readers familiar with dowsing?
What is the best material to use for dowsing?

The barn here has electric electric outlets and lights but we are
unable to locate the power feed from the nearby warehouse onsite.  In
the barn the feed comes in from under thr concrete slab.  The 3-wires
are in conduit.  The 3-wires are 600V direct bury cable to which
standard 120V inside wires were attached, but are currently cut.  So
the wires in the barn are currently connected to an extension cord
with male 3-prong end, i.e. the means of electricity for lights and
outlets could be provided by a generator.  There is no generator
onsite.  The warehouse appears to have a couple of possible buried
feeds or breaker panels that might have been the power to the barn but
so far - no luck finding the breaker panel or path of buried cable
run.  Dowsing seemed the next best means to find the feed... maybe?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:15:57 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You can call the buried stuff finder line, 811?  Just tell them you are 
> going to do some construction and you need to find various lines.  guy 
> will come out in a day or two, walk around with his magic wand, and 
> paint your stuff, phone, electric, water, gas, whatever you have.  No 
> cost.

Hey, now, that's a good idea.

But, they may locate only lines up to the first breaker panel. You will
have to ask.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

You can call the buried stuff finder line, 811?  Just tell them you are 
going to do some construction and you need to find various lines.  guy 
will come out in a day or two, walk around with his magic wand, and 
paint your stuff, phone, electric, water, gas, whatever you have.  No 
cost.  Achmed's yer uncle.


--JC


On 6/30/16 9:34 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Are any of us okiebenz readers familiar with dowsing?


Weirdest shit ever.  But I guess that for those whom it
works at all, it works well.  My grandfather, I believe,
could find water.  But his brother couldn't.  I tried as
a kid.  Nada.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Are any of us okiebenz readers familiar with dowsing?


Weirdest shit ever.  But I guess that for those whom it
works at all, it works well.  My grandfather, I believe,
could find water.  But his brother couldn't.  I tried as
a kid.  Nada.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Recommend you get a toner set, which generates a radio signal using your buried 
wire as the antenna.  A receiver comes with the tool, move that around in the 
area you suspect that the unknown end of the wire is located.  Gets the job 
done.  I think Harbor Freight sells a cheapo version?

No need to resort to witchcraft...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Dowsing - Finding Buried Electric

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Mtn man asks:
>Are any of us okiebenz readers >familiar with dowsing?
>What is the best material to use >for dowsing?


Coat hangers, or I suppose any ferrous rod will work. My friend from work was 
doing that just yesterday.

Rick 
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