Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, and don't forget those little black flies.  One bit me on right ankle 
my second day there; it musta itched for 30 years.


Wilton

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Yoopers are probably the equivalent of Alaskans when it comes to 
nutjobbery.  To live in that rural of an area you’ve got to be a little 
off kilter, I believe.


Bought our first house (in Indianapolis) from a guy and his new wife who 
were going to run a hunting lodge 40 miles north of Manistique in the 
Hiawatha National Forest.  Logging roads were it for transportation, and 
snowmobiles mandatory for winter travel.


The wife’s daughter was friends with my secretary’s daughter.  Word was 
that mom bailed after the first winter and swore to never return.


I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP.

Dan


On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds:  almost a 
yooper, but still in civilization.  (Ha!)


http://www.townofconover.com/
http://www.jensenakins.com/
http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html

Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP.   Too bad the yoopers are 
controlled by the MI legislature.  Too bad northern WI is controlled by 
the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the 
past few years.  Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, 
who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most 
wacko.


They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the 
Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia.


Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that.  One winter in the UP and 
you figure out the CA liberal model does not work.  You learn to take 
care of yourself and your neighbors, or you die.



I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some 
are a

little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around.
I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, 
early

'80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. ..

Bob R



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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Another bumper snicker variation was Wisconsin Escapee...  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 18, 2015 4:41:11 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for 
another reason.  They cut the center out.  The revised bumper 
snicker said Escape Wisconsin!  Hardly what the econ developer 
crowd wanted to see, but humorous.



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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There are several wineries popping up in OK also - however the stuff they
produce is difficult to drink.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape
 growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic
 hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka
 distillery too.
 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
in the 70s, Wisconsin had a thin green tape like bumper sticker they 
used to promote the state, primarily to FIBs in chicagoland.  The 
sticker said Escape to Wisconsin and was fairly popular in FIB land 
and milwaukee-Madison.


Who does not love summer in the North woods?  The smell of pine trees 
and cool nights and gorgeous days will plenty of lakes and rivers for 
fishing and boating...  Damfew people would not like to escape to 
Wisconsin for the summer.  The bumper sticker was deep green like the 
pine forests.


However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for 
another reason.  They cut the center out.  The revised bumper 
snicker said Escape Wisconsin!  Hardly what the econ developer 
crowd wanted to see, but humorous.


But if you ever spent a winter in the northwoods, you understand the 
desire to escape...


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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Texas Hill Country had some decent stuff, mostly not available outside 
Texas but it was quite drinkable, and a couple had won some awards.


--R



On 8/18/15 4:28 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

There are several wineries popping up in OK also - however the stuff they
produce is difficult to drink.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape
growing regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic
hybrid grape that can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka
distillery too.
-Curt


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OK Don

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I remember a business trip to Wausau in January.  I came out to warm my car up 
in the morning, a 1992 Ford Escort wagon.  It was so cold that the seat did not 
compress when I sat down in it.  I believe the ambient temperature was in the 
range of -30F at the time.

I always like the bumper sticker that said, “Come Smell our Dairy Air”.

Dan closet Cheesehead

 On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 in the 70s, Wisconsin had a thin green tape like bumper sticker they used to 
 promote the state, primarily to FIBs in chicagoland.  The sticker said 
 Escape to Wisconsin and was fairly popular in FIB land and 
 milwaukee-Madison.
 
 Who does not love summer in the North woods?  The smell of pine trees and 
 cool nights and gorgeous days will plenty of lakes and rivers for fishing and 
 boating...  Damfew people would not like to escape to Wisconsin for the 
 summer.  The bumper sticker was deep green like the pine forests.
 
 However in the north counties, they loved the bumper stickers for another 
 reason.  They cut the center out.  The revised bumper snicker said Escape 
 Wisconsin!  Hardly what the econ developer crowd wanted to see, but humorous.
 
 But if you ever spent a winter in the northwoods, you understand the desire 
 to escape...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including 
Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and 
the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF.


Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat


Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds:  almost a 
yooper, but still in civilization.  (Ha!)


http://www.townofconover.com/
http://www.jensenakins.com/
http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html

Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP.   Too bad the yoopers are 
controlled by the MI legislature.  Too bad northern WI is controlled by 
the wackos in Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the 
past few years.  Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, 
who vie with madison and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most 
wacko.


They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the 
Northeast, particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia.


Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that.  One winter in the UP and 
you figure out the CA liberal model does not work.  You learn to take care 
of yourself and your neighbors, or you die.



I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are 
a

little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around.
I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early
'80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. ..

Bob R



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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of 
northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't 
come up here, no how, no way, no time...
Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower 
pace of life, great snowmobiling...
-Curt
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Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com 
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'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including 
Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and 
the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF.

Wilton
   
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If I had my druthers I'd head East to NS and buy a winery overlooking the
Bay of Fundy.  Or to Nelson, NZ for a comparable setting.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out
 of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people.
 Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time...
 Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people,
 slower pace of life, great snowmobiling...
 -Curt
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 Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

 'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including
 Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and
 the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF.

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yoopers are probably the equivalent of Alaskans when it comes to nutjobbery.  
To live in that rural of an area you’ve got to be a little off kilter, I 
believe.

Bought our first house (in Indianapolis) from a guy and his new wife who were 
going to run a hunting lodge 40 miles north of Manistique in the Hiawatha 
National Forest.  Logging roads were it for transportation, and snowmobiles 
mandatory for winter travel.

The wife’s daughter was friends with my secretary’s daughter.  Word was that 
mom bailed after the first winter and swore to never return.

I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP.

Dan


 On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Someplace like Conover, WI may be the best of both worlds:  almost a yooper, 
 but still in civilization.  (Ha!)
 
 http://www.townofconover.com/
 http://www.jensenakins.com/
 http://www.jensenakins.com/hardware.html
 
 Between MN and the UP, I'd pick the UP.   Too bad the yoopers are controlled 
 by the MI legislature.  Too bad northern WI is controlled by the wackos in 
 Madison, although there has been some improvement in WI the past few years.  
 Too bad northern MN is controlled by the MN legislature, who vie with madison 
 and the wackos in Iowa City for who is the most wacko.
 
 They are all outdone by the frootloops in CA, the nutjobs in the Northeast, 
 particularly NY/NJ and the IL mafia.
 
 Yoopers tend to be characters, and I like that.  One winter in the UP and you 
 figure out the CA liberal model does not work.  You learn to take care of 
 yourself and your neighbors, or you die.
 
 
 I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a
 little off. But it's the kind of off you enjoy being around.
 I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early
 '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. ..
 
 Bob R
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

PEI makes blueberry wine, among other varieties.


So does three lakes winery in WI,
http://www.cranberrywine.com/

I like American Wild, from La Vida Loca   Not a fruit wine, but not a 
domestic grape wine either.  (actually, I like a lot of their 
stuff...)

http://www.lavidalocawinery.com/

Eagles landing has 3 Best of winners at this year's state fair.  I 
really like their Volga Lake Blush under the Marquette label.  Very 
nice flavor.  Decent price too.   Their Serenety and Blackberry are 
the other two Best of varieties from the state fair.


http://www.eagleslandingwinery.com/ourwines.html

These wineries go head to head with CA or NY and hold their own.  The 
Wine Institute at ISU has a lot to do with that.


Maiden Head Winery (WI) is also a Cidery  I had a bottle of their 
Honeycrisp cyder recently, and it was good a year after I bought it.


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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes



I was once told the mosquito was the state bird of the UP.

Dan


Only once?

Same for N WI.  State bird is the mosquito.  Known to swoop in and 
carry off small dogs and babies.


Although up until this year it has been so dry that the population 
and size have both diminished.


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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay 
right out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten 
weather, surly people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time...
Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly 
people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling...

-Curt



I'm with andy on this one.  If I am going that far N and East, I'd go 
to Nova Scotia or PEI.


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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
PEI makes blueberry wine, among other varieties.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 PEI is a bit north, but I can see NS.

 Southern NS is really nice.  I used to go to Halifax, and it was a nice
 place, too.

 Dan


  On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right
 out of northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly
 people. Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time...
  Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly
 people, slower pace of life, great snowmobiling...
  -Curt
 
 
  I'm with andy on this one.  If I am going that far N and East, I'd go to
 Nova Scotia or PEI.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
PEI is a bit north, but I can see NS.

Southern NS is really nice.  I used to go to Halifax, and it was a nice place, 
too.

Dan


 On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of 
 northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. 
 Don't come up here, no how, no way, no time...
 Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, 
 slower pace of life, great snowmobiling...
 -Curt
 
 
 I'm with andy on this one.  If I am going that far N and East, I'd go to Nova 
 Scotia or PEI.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

2015-08-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its interesting to see wineries popping up outside of traditional grape growing 
regions, theres one in Presque Isle, Maine growing some magic hybrid grape that 
can take the cold.Last I knew there was a vodka distillery too.
-Curt
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mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 11:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat
   
If I had my druthers I'd head East to NS and buy a winery overlooking the Bay 
of Fundy.  Or to Nelson, NZ for a comparable setting.


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

All this talk makes me think to remind you that you should stay right out of 
northern Maine. Flys the size of bombers, rotten weather, surly people. Don't 
come up here, no how, no way, no time...
Seriously, moderate temps, cheap land, good fresh food, friendly people, slower 
pace of life, great snowmobiling...
-Curt
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Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 10:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Escape the heat WUZ: heat

'Enjoyed 4 years in the UP (minus 6 months touring SE Asia, including
Hanoi, and many other assorted trips around/above most of US, Canada and
the North Pole, etc.), all courtesy of USAF.

Wilton

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