Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Obviously because we humans have been sending probes there that are warming the atmosphere! Tim On 11/24/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:52 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the earth is warming because of humans then why is Mars also warming? Superb question, Kaleb! Craig
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Not the humans. The sun is making it's last effort before dying. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:00:52 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the earth is warming because of humans then why is Mars also warming?
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Greenie Weenie idiots. Cranberries were growing here long before people. The greenie weenies WAY overinflate their self-worth. They should all be made into Biodiesel. As to the impact of biofuels Madam Pele spews more CO, NOx and other miscellaneous offal into the air in any given day from Kilauea than what is created by mere mortals driving around. And that is only one volcano. If you add up all the volcanos, there is a whole lot. Remember Mt St Helens? The immediate predictions were that the climate was going to change, we might even enter an Ice age in Norte America, and whole countries would be deforested from the ash cloud, CO, NOx, etc. What happened? The ash fell, the trees cleansed the air, and before the ash had been carried 1000 miles in the jet stream, there was no effect. IN fact, that was about the last of the dire screeching about the coming Ice age, and the birth of the global warming BS. Oh, by the way, What happens to all the stuff spewed by Madam Pele? A short distance downwind, and you can be suffocated by the gasses. Funny thing, if you get a short distance from the island, there is no trace. Nature is a wondrous thing. The earth heals itself, whether the wounds are self inflicted or inflicted by mere mortals. I guess some on the list are not old enough to remember Mt St. Helens, but go read some real history. It will astound you! The global warming BS has been around for 20 years. It is time to start the screeching about the coming ice age again. At 06:58 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote: How can you enjoy driving that diesel and eating cranberry sauce when it is going to drive the earth to ruin? I might have to move to Mars, no wait, it is warming up globally too, I think from those rovers we sent there... --R (stirring worries, and gravy) Wetland worries color cranberry industry By Traci Watson, USA TODAY The fruit that brings a welcome splash of puckery crimson to Thanksgiving feasts has also stirred worries about the impact it has on the environment before it reaches the nation's dining-room tables. MORE http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-22-cranberries_x.htm?csp=34 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Yes, clearly concern for the environment and the human impact on its various and sundry ecosystems is a silly waste of time. Nothing to see here...as you were. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Loren Faeth wrote: ...the trees cleansed the air... Wait, I thought Ronald Reagan said that trees cause pollution. Now they're cleansing the air?
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Zeitgeist wrote: Yes, clearly concern for the environment and the human impact on its various and sundry ecosystems is a silly waste of time. Nothing to see here...as you were. Yeah. They told us lead was harmless, a little nuclear radiation would never hurt anyone, and tobacco couldn't possibly cause cancer, and we know how well those predictions turned out. We need to trust the scientists that shill for corporations. They always have our best interests at heart.
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Hmmm, If you get out your Geiger counter, you will find that everything around you is radioactive to some degree. My science project in Jr high was monitoring radiation in common store-bought milk. Yep, it is radioactive too! So, if a little radiation will kill you, You'd better hurry off the planet, because, guess what! There is lots of radiation all around you! Only greenie weenies feed their kids lead paint. The rest of us tell the kids not to eat paint. Gotcha goin' didn't I? grin Junk science is still junk! At 09:18 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote: Yeah. They told us lead was harmless, a little nuclear radiation would never hurt anyone
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Loren Faeth wrote: Junk science is still junk! And shill science is still shill science. It's instructive to look at the global warming skeptics and see who's paying them to reach those conclusions.
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Skeptics of those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large independent thinkers. Those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large sheeple led by avowed communists and those of the socialist philosophy, and largely anti christian. It is also very instructive to see who is paying them. I do agree that it is very instructive to see who is paying whom on both sides. TO counter your claim, I make my money teaching computer networking. How does that relate to being paid by the evil oil companies? I have had papers published in scientific journals, I am a Certified Quality Engineer, and a Certified Manufacturing Technologist. My graduate and post graduate research was technical, related to science and engineering. I am named on a patent because of that research. There are many on the list who hold better credentials than mine. The science shows that the earth goes through long term warming and cooling cycles. It also shows the sun is burning hotter than it did, say 20 years ago. Science show earth temps are related to the heat generated by the sun. Statistics show that there is nothing out of normal variation cycles. There was a hot cycle in the 30s that created the dust bowl phenomenon. Then we went into a cool cycle. Many record lows were set in the 50s - 70s. The current warming trend was predictable, just as is the cooling trend that will come. I have not seen any evidence put forth by greenie weenies that will stand up to scientific scrutiny for long. I am not for or against greenie weenies, I am looking for the truth behind the shreiking of those looking for media attention. Apply Deming and Shewharts Statistical Process Control principles to temp trends over the span of recorded history and you will see there is nothing out of normal variance. That is science. Read How to Lie with Statistics. It is somewhat outdated, but entertaining and instructive. Junk science is still junk. At 10:30 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Junk science is still junk! And shill science is still shill science. It's instructive to look at the global warming skeptics and see who's paying them to reach those conclusions. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
If the earth is warming because of humans then why is Mars also warming? I know, its Bush's fault. Loren Faeth wrote: Skeptics of those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large independent thinkers. Those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large sheeple led by avowed communists and those of the socialist philosophy, and largely anti christian. It is also very instructive to see who is paying them. I do agree that it is very instructive to see who is paying whom on both sides. TO counter your claim, I make my money teaching computer networking. How does that relate to being paid by the evil oil companies? I have had papers published in scientific journals, I am a Certified Quality Engineer, and a Certified Manufacturing Technologist. My graduate and post graduate research was technical, related to science and engineering. I am named on a patent because of that research. There are many on the list who hold better credentials than mine. The science shows that the earth goes through long term warming and cooling cycles. It also shows the sun is burning hotter than it did, say 20 years ago. Science show earth temps are related to the heat generated by the sun. Statistics show that there is nothing out of normal variation cycles. There was a hot cycle in the 30s that created the dust bowl phenomenon. Then we went into a cool cycle. Many record lows were set in the 50s - 70s. The current warming trend was predictable, just as is the cooling trend that will come. I have not seen any evidence put forth by greenie weenies that will stand up to scientific scrutiny for long. I am not for or against greenie weenies, I am looking for the truth behind the shreiking of those looking for media attention. Apply Deming and Shewharts Statistical Process Control principles to temp trends over the span of recorded history and you will see there is nothing out of normal variance. That is science. Read How to Lie with Statistics. It is somewhat outdated, but entertaining and instructive. Junk science is still junk. At 10:30 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Junk science is still junk! And shill science is still shill science. It's instructive to look at the global warming skeptics and see who's paying them to reach those conclusions. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] First Biodiesel, now cranberries
Uh, you forgot to mention that the godless commies are also seeking to introduce foreign substances into our precious bodily fluids...and sap our vital essences! Whatever you do, don't let the red menace sap your vital essence. On 11/23/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skeptics of those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large independent thinkers. Those who claim global warming is caused by human activity are by and large sheeple led by avowed communists and those of the socialist philosophy, and largely anti christian. It is also very instructive to see who is paying them. I do agree that it is very instructive to see who is paying whom on both sides. TO counter your claim, I make my money teaching computer networking. How does that relate to being paid by the evil oil companies? I have had papers published in scientific journals, I am a Certified Quality Engineer, and a Certified Manufacturing Technologist. My graduate and post graduate research was technical, related to science and engineering. I am named on a patent because of that research. There are many on the list who hold better credentials than mine. The science shows that the earth goes through long term warming and cooling cycles. It also shows the sun is burning hotter than it did, say 20 years ago. Science show earth temps are related to the heat generated by the sun. Statistics show that there is nothing out of normal variation cycles. There was a hot cycle in the 30s that created the dust bowl phenomenon. Then we went into a cool cycle. Many record lows were set in the 50s - 70s. The current warming trend was predictable, just as is the cooling trend that will come. I have not seen any evidence put forth by greenie weenies that will stand up to scientific scrutiny for long. I am not for or against greenie weenies, I am looking for the truth behind the shreiking of those looking for media attention. Apply Deming and Shewharts Statistical Process Control principles to temp trends over the span of recorded history and you will see there is nothing out of normal variance. That is science. Read How to Lie with Statistics. It is somewhat outdated, but entertaining and instructive. Junk science is still junk. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (205k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
