Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If you take the belly pan off can you reach up with a long extension and just 
undo the bolts that hold the grill in place? IIRC there are 4 or 6 small 
bolts...
-Curt

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 Subject: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D
   
Hi Gang -
    I have tried all your suggestions and a few of my own to get the 
hood to pop up so I can open it.  I bought a used Grill Shell w/Insert 
so I can break up the original one and hopefully get the hood latch to 
release.

    There's a pair of fans for the AC condenser but it looks like 
there's enough room to work with.

    So i am wondering if there's any creative ways to break open the 
grill element?  I think I can get the chrome surround off once the 
insert is opened up and then will have enough room  to reach the latch  
release it.

Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Curt, this is a 124 car, that won't work.  Grill is bolted to the front facing 
part of the hood, not the top surface.  No way to remove the grill without 
breaking it.


-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 25, 2015 12:00:34 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
If you take the belly pan off can you reach up with a long extension
and just undo the bolts that hold the grill in place? IIRC there are 4
or 6 small bolts...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Larry,

I would grab the plastic with a pliers and twist and lever to break of small 
chunks to avoid risking damage to the condenser.  Gradually chew through, don't 
try to get it all done at once.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 25, 2015 11:54:50 AM EDT, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
Hi Gang -
 I have tried all your suggestions and a few of my own to get the 
hood to pop up so I can open it.  I bought a used Grill Shell w/Insert 
so I can break up the original one and hopefully get the hood latch to 
release.

 There's a pair of fans for the AC condenser but it looks like 
there's enough room to work with.

 So i am wondering if there's any creative ways to break open the 
grill element?  I think I can get the chrome surround off once the 
insert is opened up and then will have enough room  to reach the latch
 
release it.

Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Larry,

I would grab the plastic with a pliers and twist and lever to break 
of small chunks to avoid risking damage to the condenser.  Gradually 
chew through, don't try to get it all done at once.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


Or cut through it with a dremel type tool.

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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
O Pardon me...

I must have tapped into my Compassion Challenged with Political Correct
side...

Use side cutters to clip the grill out of the grill surround...

I have a problem expressing myself in the omni-sexual culture we have these
days... Just last Christmas I got a Rolex from my Lesbian neighbors... When
they had ask me what I wanted for Christmas and I said I wanna watch ...
I guess I didn't communicate well... ;))



On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Grant, we have to be inclusive these days. Its cutters in comfortable
 shoes ...

 Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I would suggest the use of a pair of dyke cutters to clip the edges of the
grill, rather than pliers.

If you have some with long handles so you have better leverage, even
better. You should be able to go around the entire grill edge rather
quickly and remove it cleanly.

Just a thought.. hope it works for you.

Grant...

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Larry,

 I would grab the plastic with a pliers and twist and lever to break of
 small chunks to avoid risking damage to the condenser.  Gradually chew
 through, don't try to get it all done at once.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300


 Or cut through it with a dremel type tool.

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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Grant, we have to be inclusive these days. Its cutters in comfortable shoes ...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I was also going to comment on that, and the prevalence of the term 
tranny which is extremely offensive.


You forgot jeans and plaid shirts...

--R


On 7/25/15 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Grant, we have to be inclusive these days. Its cutters in comfortable shoes ...

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

2015-07-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I need to correct that.  On the later 124 cars, what I said is correct, but
on the 1st generation, it _just_ may be possible to remove the chrome
surround from the side and from below.  However, it is not a straight shot
from below, so you'd be working more or less blind.

I've got an '87 and a '95, both have differences from Larry's car, a 1990.
I think he may have a shot after looking at my '87, but I called him a few
minutes ago and tried to describe what I was looking at.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Curt, this is a 124 car, that won't work.  Grill is bolted to the front
 facing part of the hood, not the top surface.  No way to remove the grill
 without breaking it.



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