Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have heard that everything he does is in one way or another connected to 
improving the techology he thinks is necessary to fulfill his fantasy fever 
dream of living on Mars.



On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> I had read in several articles Tesla had quality control issues. This 
> would confirm that. Guess Elon Musk never heard of Demming. Tesla is a 
> subsidy farm more than a car company.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 15, 2022 12:48 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>
> Low mileage Tesla story.
> I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.
>
> https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad
>
> Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took
> delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound
> from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she
> reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for
> inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day,
> Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but
> feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell
> her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.
>
> Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor,
> who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare
> "the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't
> buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get
> the car towed in if she was worried.
>
> She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad
> that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician
> removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner
> was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car
> likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper.
> Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service
> center invite her in.
>
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I had read in several articles Tesla had quality control issues. This would 
confirm that. Guess Elon Musk never heard of Demming. Tesla is a subsidy farm 
more than a car company.


Rick

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Low mileage Tesla story.
I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad

Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took
delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound
from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she
reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for
inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day,
Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but
feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell
her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.

Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor,
who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare
"the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't
buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get
the car towed in if she was worried.

She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad
that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician
removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner
was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car
likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper.
Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service
center invite her in.

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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Low mileage Tesla story.
I would have returned it before driving it two blocks.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43876/tesla-model-3-owner-discovers-car-was-delivered-missing-a-brake-pad

Gillmore, who showed her written exchanges with Tesla to The Drive, took 
delivery of her EV on Dec. 19, only to notice a worrying scraping sound 
from the driver-side rear wheel while driving. The following day, she 
reported the issue to Tesla, which told her no appointments for 
inspection were available any sooner than three weeks out. The next day, 
Gillmore was offered a prompter appointment at a third-party shop, but 
feeling it was inappropriate, she declined, only for Tesla to later tell 
her the offer was a mistake, and finally request a video of the issue.


Gillmore recorded the above video to send to her Tesla service advisor, 
who claims multiple technicians listened to the video, only to declare 
"the brakes sounded normal for a performance Model 3." Gillmore didn't 
buy it and pushed to get an appointment sooner, only to be told to get 
the car towed in if she was worried.


She was right to be concerned, as by Dec. 23 the noise had gotten so bad 
that she visited an independent local Tesla shop, where a technician 
removed a wheel to discover the inside brake pad on the left-rear corner 
was missing. In a video captured by said tech, he posits that the car 
likely needs not just a pad, but also a new rotor and brake caliper. 
Only after seeing this video, Gillmore says, did the Tesla service 
center invite her in.


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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Pt!
Everyone knows that a W115 240D will do a million miles on the original 
motor and get over 40 mpg and blow ice cold AC.
What is the big deal about an electric car? What has he spent on 
electricity to fuel his car and how much of it was produced from coal?




On 14/01/2022 7:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

*One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
Repairs*epairs
A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.

Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
quite a number of parts

in
its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
than 621,000 miles on that third battery.

That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
different drive motors have failed.

But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account

.

#NeuesProfilbild

pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
— Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022


According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
Tesla’s odometer.

There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
like this 425,000 mile example
.
But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.

The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
our business.

So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
be able to follow along on his Twitter account

.




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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I doubt it. But they are in love with brown coal.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do the Germans give the depletion allowance too?
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
> >
> https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
> >> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed
> SomeMajor
> >> > Repairs*epairs
> >> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> >> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers
> (932,256
> >> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >> >
> >> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been
> through
> >> > quite a number of parts
> >> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> >> > in
> >> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car
> is on
> >> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> >> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> >> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done
> more
> >> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >> >
> >> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> >> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> >> > different drive motors have failed.
> >> >
> >> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses
> it as
> >> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > #NeuesProfilbild
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> >> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> >> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >> >
> >> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559,
> mile)
> >> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> >> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> >> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >> >
> >> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> >> > like this 425,000 mile example
> >> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> >> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >> >
> >> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost
> over the
> >> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense
> to
> >> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it
> isn’t
> >> > our business.
> >> >
> >> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> >> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> >> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> >> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> >> > .
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > OK Don
> >> >
> >> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >> >
> >> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am
> doing.”  Wernher
> >> > Von Braun
> >> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Do the Germans give the depletion allowance too?

—FT

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
> https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
>> > Repairs*epairs
>> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
>> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
>> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>> > 
>> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
>> > quite a number of parts
>> > 
>> > in
>> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
>> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
>> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
>> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
>> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>> > 
>> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
>> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
>> > different drive motors have failed.
>> > 
>> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
>> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
>> > 
>> > .
>> > 
>> > #NeuesProfilbild
>> > 
>> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
>> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
>> > 
>> > 
>> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
>> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
>> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
>> > Tesla’s odometer.
>> > 
>> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
>> > like this 425,000 mile example
>> > .
>> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>> > 
>> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
>> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
>> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
>> > our business.
>> > 
>> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
>> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
>> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
>> > 
>> > .
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > OK Don
>> > 
>> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> > 
>> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> > Wernher
>> > Von Braun
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>> > ___
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>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yup

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
> 
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> 
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> 
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> 
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
> 
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> #NeuesProfilbild
> 
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> 
> 
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
> 
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> .
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> 
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
> 
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> --
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. Okay.

https://realmoney.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/tesla-s-main-product-isn-t-cars-it-s-subsidies-14769263

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2020/07/28/elon-musk-is-government-subsidy-critic-but-teslas-q2-results-were-helped-by-covid-19-aid/

And that's not the only company that gets them.

https://cleantechnica.com/2020/08/03/tesla-subsidies-how-much/

Where's our multi billion dollar handout?

Rick

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You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> > Repairs*epairs
> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >
> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> > quite a number of parts
> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> > in
> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is
> on
> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >
> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> > different drive motors have failed.
> >
> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it
> as
> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > #NeuesProfilbild
> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC <https://t.co/wEsk1ZW3yC>
> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >
> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >
> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> > like this 425,000 mile example
> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >
> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over
> the
> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> > our business.
> >
> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You mean like the depletion allowance for oil and gas drilling in the US?
https://fascinatingpolitics.com/2020/10/04/the-oil-depletion-allowance-the-largest-tax-loophole-in-american-history/

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:02 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> > Repairs*epairs
> > A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage
> Model
> > S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> > freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> >
> > Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> > quite a number of parts
> > <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> > in
> > its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is
> on
> > at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at
> about
> > 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional
> miles
> > before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> > than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> >
> > That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over
> 900,000
> > miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means
> three
> > different drive motors have failed.
> >
> > But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it
> as
> > a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter
> account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > #NeuesProfilbild
> > <
> https://twitter.com/hashtag/NeuesProfilbild?src=hash_src=twsrc%5Etfw>
> > pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> > — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
> >
> > According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> > mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles
> annually
> > since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> > Tesla’s odometer.
> >
> > There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right
> now,
> > like this 425,000 mile example
> > <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> > But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> >
> > The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over
> the
> > life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> > pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> > our business.
> >
> > So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of
> driving
> > a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will
> certainly
> > be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> > <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> > .
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I wonder how much subsidy the government gives him

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 14, 2022, at 8:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
> 
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> 
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
> 
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
> 
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> #NeuesProfilbild
> 
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> 
> 
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
> 
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> .
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
> 
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
> 
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> 
> .
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2022-01-14 21:51, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Battery management software may have improved; Teslas auto-update over 
the air.


Perhaps the battery technology and/or chemistry is also better than it
was in 2012.


The batteries are probably better, plus the owner may have figured out 
not to run it below 20% every day.


I'm amazed that he (or more likely, three shifts of drivers) managed to 
average 150kmi since 2019.
That's a decent annual mileage for a single driver long haul semi in the 
USA, and incredible for a taxi.


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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Battery management software may have improved; Teslas auto-update over the air.

Perhaps the battery technology and/or chemistry is also better than it was in 
2012.


On Fri, Jan 14, 2022, at 8:14 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Indeed! He is getting a lot of miles out of the latest battery pack though
> - wonder what's different?
>
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
>> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
>> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>>
>> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
>> Repairs*epairs
>> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
>> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
>> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>>
>> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
>> quite a number of parts
>> <
>> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
>> >
>> in
>> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
>> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
>> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
>> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
>> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>>
>> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
>> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
>> different drive motors have failed.
>>
>> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
>> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
>> >
>> .
>>
>> #NeuesProfilbild
>> 
>> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
>> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
>> >
>>
>> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
>> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
>> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
>> Tesla’s odometer.
>>
>> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
>> like this 425,000 mile example
>> <
>> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
>> >.
>> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>>
>> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
>> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
>> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
>> our business.
>>
>> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
>> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
>> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
>> <
>> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
>> >
>> .
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>> ___
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>>
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>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

Indeed! He is getting a lot of miles out of the latest battery pack though
- wonder what's different?

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:13 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
> To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: okd...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla
>
> *One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
> Repairs*epairs
> A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
> S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
> freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.
>
> Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
> quite a number of parts
> <
> https://www.carscoops.com/2022/01/this-original-tesla-model-s-performance-model-is-nearing-100-miles/
> >
> in
> its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
> at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
> 180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
> before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
> than 621,000 miles on that third battery.
>
> That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
> miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
> different drive motors have failed.
>
> But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
> a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> .
>
> #NeuesProfilbild
> 
> pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
> — Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen/status/1479108423685840905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
> >
>
> According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
> mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
> since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
> Tesla’s odometer.
>
> There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
> like this 425,000 mile example
> <
> https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-a-425-000-mile-tesla-model-s-has-held-up-1848286496
> >.
> But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.
>
> The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
> life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
> pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
> our business.
>
> So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
> a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
> be able to follow along on his Twitter account
> <
> https://twitter.com/gem8mingen?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
> >
> .
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Sounds like a virtue signaling money pit to me.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: January 14, 2022 7:01 PM
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: okd...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] High mileage Tesla

*One Tesla Model S Has Gone Nearly 1 Million Miles And Needed SomeMajor
Repairs*epairs
A Tesla owner in Germany may just have the record for highest-mileage Model
S in the world. He recently rolled over 1.5 million kilometers (932,256
freedom miles if you live in the U.S.) in his Model S P85.

Getting to this number was no cheap feat for the owner. It’s been through
quite a number of parts

in
its lifetime. The owner, Hansjörg von Gemmingen-Hornberg says the car is on
at least its third battery. The first was replaced under warranty at about
180,000 miles. The second was replaced after about 93,000 additional miles
before the third battery was installed. So far, the Model S has done more
than 621,000 miles on that third battery.

That isn’t all. The car also needed four drive motors to reach over 900,000
miles. The P85 has only one drive motor on the real axle. That means three
different drive motors have failed.

But how has this Tesla racked up so many miles? Well, the owner uses it as
a taxi. He also chronicles his journeys on his very-German Twitter account

.

#NeuesProfilbild

pic.twitter.com/wEsk1ZW3yC 
— Hansjörg von Gemmingen - Hornberg (@gem8mingen) January 6, 2022


According to InsideEVs, he reached the 900,000-kilometer (559, mile)
mark in July 2019. That means he has averaged about 150,000 miles annually
since then. That works out to over 400 miles a day packing onto this
Tesla’s odometer.

There are a few high-milage Model S’s trolling around the world right now,
like this 425,000 mile example
.
But it’s safe to say the German car blows this one out of the water.

The owner has stayed mum on exactly how much the repairs have cost over the
life of his Model S – perhaps because it would make no logical sense to
pour this money into a car to keep it going, or perhaps because it isn’t
our business.

So, while we may not know how much he’s paying for the privilege of driving
a Model S nearly a million miles in less than ten years, we will certainly
be able to follow along on his Twitter account

.

--
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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