Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
David Brodbeck wrote: GM cars of that era are kind of weird. They either fly apart before 100,000 miles, or keep running long after you wish they would fly apart so you could feel justified in getting something else. ;) I just got the Day One report. This particular heap has a functioning cruise control, and is still reading almost 3/4 tank at 208 miles. Nephew loves the thing. It's ugly, but mechanically solid and the interior looks very good for 108,000 miles and 18 years. Power driver's seat still works in all directions. Valuable feature in a 1000 mile per week commuter. I had thought of buying him that $500 240D in Columbus, but it would have been a pain if I drove 300 miles to find out I couldn't make the 240D go over 30mph.
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
John Berryman wrote: On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny fluid using the dilution method (pull the filter and change the fluid in the reservoir 4-5 times after driving a bit between changes) and changed the filter too. The fluid that came out of the PS was thick in comparison to the Amsoil stuff. It looked like it started out life as a clear fluid but was pretty dirty. Kinda grey with the usual aluminum /metallic swirl. There is definitely less effort required to turn the wheel after the changeover. I've had this happen numerous times when changing PS fluid even when I used plain old Dexron III w/Mercron rather than Mobil 1 or Amsoil. My wagon when I first got it used to bind a little when it was way cold, like 10-25 below 0 F. Changing to synthetic fluid cured that. I can't really tell any difference between the Amsoil and Mobil 1 but I can tell you that both brands improve tranny feel as well as steering input. The Amsoil fluid is supposed to be good up to 100,000mi. What's Mobil's claim for longevity on their synthetic tranny fluid? I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even better! Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every 30 kmi or a little sooner - it's not the fluid life, but to get all the particulate (from the clutches) out and to replace the filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely -- How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go? Did you try to torque it? Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got up to the torque spec. On 1/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 06:15 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: By the wayare you all settled and back to the daily grind Johnny B? Bob Rentfro For the time being yes. I'm Taking a break for a good long time but I am designing a house and garage that I will commence building in the Spring. We plan on selling it way in the future. Its basically an addition to our retirement portfolio. Otherwise, I've been tinkering on the new to me 190 D 2.5Euro, just trying to get everything working perfectly. The good news is that I have very little left to do. I'm also anxiously awaiting the arrival of a new PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7GHz Tower and Apple Cinema Display. It will have the new Operating System OS X v10.4.4 (Tiger). So I'm looking forward to learning as much as I can about it while I have this time allotted for Taking a Break. I'm hoping to find a good, easy to use CAD program for the Mac, it would be helpful for my future construction projects. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 07:02 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: I agree that changing the PS or transmission fluid (even to NORMAL stuff) usually makes things feel better. Mobil 1 made them feel even better! Mercedes transmissions need to have the filter AND fluid changed every 30 kmi or a little sooner - it's not the fluid life, but to get all the particulate (from the clutches) out and to replace the filter. Marshall I wouldn't dream of running the fluid at its estimated life-span of 100,000 miles (unless analysis tells me its OK) but the filter will no doubt need attention before the fluid. Perhaps the Amsoil synthetic trans fluid is so good that it reduces wear to the point that the filter doesn't have much to filter. You never know. BTW Marshall, Do you have any comparative data between Mobil 1 and Amsoil? I just became an Amsoil dealer, mostly for my convenience but also because I have used their products with analysis and have yet to send a sample of either Amsoil or Mobil 1 that comes back with bad results. I have run synthetic oil from both for 22,000mi and both were close to the soot saturation limits but otherwise tested fine. I have no intention of adding bypass filters. With these results from the lab, I have the confidence to regularly change oil and filter at 15,000mi. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
mine torqued down nice and snug, no problems there. OK Don wrote: Cleaning, paints, and mounting 117.985 parts -- slowly but surely -- How did tightening the belt tensioner bolt into the timing case go? Did you try to torque it? Mine (2x) have felt like they were going to strip before I got up to the torque spec. On 1/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
I spent 1 1/2 days this weekend trying to help my nephew-in-law get his Blazer running well enough to drive to work tomorrow. About noon Sunday, I threw in the towel and bought him a 1988 Cutlass Ciera. Then we got to spend an afternoon cobbling together the exhaust, catching up on PM, etc. I was amazed that the old heap tracked smooth and straight on the freeway at 80mph when we test drove it. I offered the PO $300, she took it without hesitation. I was even more amazed to find out the 2.5L 4 Tech engine did not take the PF47 spin-on filter. There was a 3 diameter oil drain plug, with a paper cartridge filter above it. Whoever bungled the last oil change glued it together with silicone instead of replacing the rotting rubber gasket. Ever try to buy a gasket for one of those giant drain plugs at 5pm on a Sunday? It took a while to help the Autozone guys find it in their computer, not in stock. At least one of the guys at Advance Auto Parts knew what it was, but he said he couldn't get one until Tuesday. I ended up gluing it in with silicone. He can buy a new gasket when the dealer is open, and I'll replace it in three weeks when he's got 3000 miles on the oil. Now I'm doing my laundry so I can go to work tomorrow.
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: when I first read this just now I though marshall was switching to amsoil Amsoil sells real good oil. Mobil supplies them with the raw oil and they concoct the additive package. The tribologists at Mobil say the additive package is really great for some special situations (like racing and other severe operating situations). There is NO evidence that the additive package that Amsoil uses is of ANY benefit under more normal operating conditions and the longevity of Amsoil (or Mobil 1) is of no value in a Mercedes diesel since the oil must be changed to get rid of the soot LONG before the oil or additives wear out. When you can get Amsoil for the same price as Mobil 1, I see NO problem using it, but if it costs more, go with Mobil! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: When you can get Amsoil for the same price as Mobil 1, I see NO problem using it, but if it costs more, go with Mobil! Marshall To go and buy Mobil 1 products is at least a 50 mile round trip and then half of the time I can't find what I need or enough of it in 1 store. Last week I went to 4 places and called 6 looking for Mobil 1 trans fluid to no avail. So I pay a bit more for a good product, delivered to my door. I have 3-5qt jugs of M1 15-50 that I found at a Wal-mart last month. I bought them all and wanted another, the store clerk told me they won't be carrying the 15-50 at that store any more. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
Mitch Haley wrote: I was even more amazed to find out the 2.5L 4 Tech engine did not take the PF47 spin-on filter. There was a 3 diameter oil drain plug, with a paper cartridge filter above it. Ah, yes. A friend of mine who used to own one of those cars had some choice words about that design. It makes for rather messy oil changes. That engine's tendancy to ooze oil all over the place is one of the reasons they tended to catch fire in the cramped engine bays of Fieros. GM cars of that era are kind of weird. They either fly apart before 100,000 miles, or keep running long after you wish they would fly apart so you could feel justified in getting something else. ;)
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny fluid using the dilution method (pull the filter and change the fluid in the reservoir 4-5 times after driving a bit between changes) and changed the filter too. The fluid that came out of the PS was thick in comparison to the Amsoil stuff. It looked like it started out life as a clear fluid but was pretty dirty. Kinda grey with the usual aluminum /metallic swirl. There is definitely less effort required to turn the wheel after the changeover. I've had this happen numerous times when changing PS fluid even when I used plain old Dexron III w/Mercron rather than Mobil 1 or Amsoil. My wagon when I first got it used to bind a little when it was way cold, like 10-25 below 0 F. Changing to synthetic fluid cured that. I can't really tell any difference between the Amsoil and Mobil 1 but I can tell you that both brands improve tranny feel as well as steering input. The Amsoil fluid is supposed to be good up to 100,000mi. What's Mobil's claim for longevity on their synthetic tranny fluid? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was
After I swapped to M1 ATF for PS fluid, the steering was a tad easier. The stinky part was gasket on the lid evidently didn't like the M1 and it began to seep a tad and I didn't notice it until I lifted the hood to check the oil one day and everything was wicked dust caked (desert, remember...we are at 103 days without rain). I need to get some gasket material and make a new one. By the wayare you all settled and back to the daily grind Johnny B? Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I guess everyone else is as busy as I was On Sunday, January 29, 2006, at 05:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Replaced the fan clutch and belt tensioner on my SDL today. No but yesterday I switched the 190D over to Amsoil sytnthetic tranny fluid and changed the filter. Swapped the PS fluid to Amsoil tranny fluid using the dilution method (pull the filter and change the fluid in the reservoir 4-5 times after driving a bit between changes) and changed the filter too. The fluid that came out of the PS was thick in comparison to the Amsoil stuff. It looked like it started out life as a clear fluid but was pretty dirty. Kinda grey with the usual aluminum /metallic swirl. There is definitely less effort required to turn the wheel after the changeover. I've had this happen numerous times when changing PS fluid even when I used plain old Dexron III w/Mercron rather than Mobil 1 or Amsoil. My wagon when I first got it used to bind a little when it was way cold, like 10-25 below 0 F. Changing to synthetic fluid cured that. I can't really tell any difference between the Amsoil and Mobil 1 but I can tell you that both brands improve tranny feel as well as steering input. The Amsoil fluid is supposed to be good up to 100,000mi. What's Mobil's claim for longevity on their synthetic tranny fluid? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
