Re: [MBZ] MB brakes

2011-11-18 Thread Max
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>What year was this and what model?
>

E270 CDI.  I think it was 2005 or so?  I do remember reading an article about 
the system just before.  It did not stop the car, but slowed us down 
considerably.  I was very impressed.  
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Re: [MBZ] MB brakes

2011-11-17 Thread RELNGSON
> Mitch Haley  wrote:
> 
> I always wondered about that auto braking. If you jab hard enough at the 
> brake pedal to let the system think you might be in an emergency, it puts 
> the brakes
> on full for you. I still think it sounds like a good way to go spinning 
> out of
> control when the guy behind you pegs your back bumper at speed.
> 
> This is BAS (Brake Assist) and has been standard for a long time. Both my 
W203 and W204 used this and I have activated it a time or two. The time 
between gas pedal release and brake application is measured and combined with 
the 
speed of brake pedal depression, BAS is activated.

http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/BAS_how.html
> 
> .Once in Italy I rented a Benz with that auto braking feature, and 
> experienced it working.  A big truck pulled out in front of us, he must not 
> have seen us.  I was driving fast, it was just dawn and we were headed to the 
> airport (last day). I kicked the brake pedal hard but didn't maintain 
> pressure - I was panicked and instead of focusing on braking I was focusing 
> on 
> being terrified.  This is exactly the scenario the system is designed for.  
> Full ABS braking ensued, I steered around the truck, we slowed to about 35 
> mph, I was cursing the truck driver, and THEN I finally realized that the 
> car braking beautifully and my right foot was just resting in the 
> footwell. I'm sold on the system.
> 
What year was this and what model?

Pre-safe brakes were introduced on the 2010 E-Class and Distronic (radar) 
brakes on the W221 S-Class a few years before that. Distronic will bring the 
car to a stop. The radar antenna is combined with the grill star.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] MB brakes

2011-04-20 Thread RELNGSON
> ..Because they only come with 2 brakes, you know cost cutting and all
> that. I think they have a handbrake but don't quote me on that...
> 
Emergency stops are handled by the dropping of a bag of anvils at the end 
of a chain. A one time deal, much like a parachute behind a MIG-29.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Sunil Hari

My civic just got new front brakes and rotors at 120Kmi.  Original (drum)
rears that I've only had adjusted twice.

And Hursty, I just bought a hatchback, so I've joined the club.


On 10/23/06, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


when i lived up in north fulton county, every woman there had a lincoln
navigator.  I never saw on that was loaded with more stuff than you could
easily fit in a VW hatchback.

my thought is that a wagon or even a hatchback should be adequate.  i need
more than that about every 2 years.  then i rent a vehicle.


On 10/23/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > But a "Ford Exploder" isn't a typical American sedan...
>
> By the numbers, these days, I'm thinking maybe it is!
>
> Never understood the whole SU(E)V thing.  Why get a vehicle
> that is a bad compromise when you can have _two_ nice
> purposed vehicles?  We drive sedans or convertibles,
> usually, and haul out the big iron (pickup) when we
> need it for something.  The Suburban is a godsend for
> those who really need it, I can't see why anybody else
> would want to drive one, or anything like one.
>
> (The 'E' is for Everyday, btw.)
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Gary Hurst

when i lived up in north fulton county, every woman there had a lincoln
navigator.  I never saw on that was loaded with more stuff than you could
easily fit in a VW hatchback.

my thought is that a wagon or even a hatchback should be adequate.  i need
more than that about every 2 years.  then i rent a vehicle.


On 10/23/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> But a "Ford Exploder" isn't a typical American sedan...

By the numbers, these days, I'm thinking maybe it is!

Never understood the whole SU(E)V thing.  Why get a vehicle
that is a bad compromise when you can have _two_ nice
purposed vehicles?  We drive sedans or convertibles,
usually, and haul out the big iron (pickup) when we
need it for something.  The Suburban is a godsend for
those who really need it, I can't see why anybody else
would want to drive one, or anything like one.

(The 'E' is for Everyday, btw.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Because insurance costs too much for one vehicle let alone two for many 
people...That and no one really cares about fuel economy when it comes 
at a cost of inconvenience..


Mike
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But a "Ford Exploder" isn't a typical American sedan...


By the numbers, these days, I'm thinking maybe it is!

Never understood the whole SU(E)V thing.  Why get a vehicle
that is a bad compromise when you can have _two_ nice
purposed vehicles?  We drive sedans or convertibles,
usually, and haul out the big iron (pickup) when we
need it for something.  The Suburban is a godsend for
those who really need it, I can't see why anybody else
would want to drive one, or anything like one.

(The 'E' is for Everyday, btw.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Jim Cathey

But a "Ford Exploder" isn't a typical American sedan...


By the numbers, these days, I'm thinking maybe it is!

Never understood the whole SU(E)V thing.  Why get a vehicle
that is a bad compromise when you can have _two_ nice
purposed vehicles?  We drive sedans or convertibles,
usually, and haul out the big iron (pickup) when we
need it for something.  The Suburban is a godsend for
those who really need it, I can't see why anybody else
would want to drive one, or anything like one.

(The 'E' is for Everyday, btw.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
But a "Ford Exploder" isn't a typical American sedan...

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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> A typical American sedan will go 70,000 miles+ before needing its first
> brake job...

A friend's Ford Exploder manages to get 12-20kmi out of a set of brakes.
Automatic transmission, of course.  I was appalled.  I got 150kmi out of
the factory brakes on my Camaro, with a stick shift.  I'd guess I'd get
the same out of nearly any stickshift car with halfway decent brakes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Mike Canfield
Exploders eat up front brakes every 10K or so when the back brakes are out 
of adjustment...Keep the back brakes adjusted properly, the automatic 
adjusters are pretty worthless after a while, and you can get 20K or 
so..Still appalling to say the least.


Mike
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A typical American sedan will go 70,000 miles+ before needing its first
brake job...


A friend's Ford Exploder manages to get 12-20kmi out of a set of brakes.
Automatic transmission, of course.  I was appalled.  I got 150kmi out of
the factory brakes on my Camaro, with a stick shift.  I'd guess I'd get
the same out of nearly any stickshift car with halfway decent brakes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] MB Brakes

2006-10-23 Thread Jim Cathey

A typical American sedan will go 70,000 miles+ before needing its first
brake job...


A friend's Ford Exploder manages to get 12-20kmi out of a set of brakes.
Automatic transmission, of course.  I was appalled.  I got 150kmi out of
the factory brakes on my Camaro, with a stick shift.  I'd guess I'd get
the same out of nearly any stickshift car with halfway decent brakes.

-- Jim