Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-02 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Roger - I did get a few sections to come up OK, but most did come up with 
page not found.

Werner
'90 D
'83SD

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Roger Conlon wrote:

 http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html

 I tried this site in the Model 126,  603 engine and I can get the
subtitle
 categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message.
 HTTP404 File Not Found.

 Any one else get this to work?

 Roger

The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser
are you using?

Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better
than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the
plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your
browser may be necessary).

Marshall
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I'm using Microsoft Internet Explorer.
As far as the plugin goes I have not a clue there.
I did get the mb.braingears site to work, but it is not near as 
friendly/not

having the categories broken down.

Roger

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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Scordato

Well said Dave M.!  I just love the tool,
Regards Tom Scordato
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John,

To add to what Tom said:

1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending
a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the
cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing
beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me
AND Rusty a lot of time - and money!

2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone,
assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy
will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in
question. Having it on your own computer is awesome.

3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same
chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are
compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have
little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts
used instead of new.

4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the
USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some
cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the
part, etc.

5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You
can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's
used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The
worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan,
etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you
have the 5-digit SA code.

6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great
to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you
can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold
really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've
done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a
Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the
proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves
me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE
placing an order.

Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy!

:-)

-Dave M.


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Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:01:59 -0500
From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE


Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any
way.
I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D

John thanks for asking.  The answer is yes I could do those things you
describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you 
describe.

But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on
eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect.  Besides it gives me
something to do.  Keeps me out of pool halls and such.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D
1979 240D


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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread tom savage

Tom Scordato wrote:

I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was too. 


Sort of: http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb.asp

Tom
No working EPC for years



Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:

I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was 
too.

Any thoughts please.  I am getting pretty desperate.

Regards Tom Scordato



	Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from 
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a 
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any 
way.
	I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts 
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There are sites that bascially have the CD's uploaded I guess.  Dont 
have any of them off the top of my head though.


Constantine N. Polites wrote:


Tom:

You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to 
the mb service which charges for access?


Constantine

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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)

2006-02-01 Thread Zeitgeist
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html

On 2/1/06, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom:

 You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line.  Are you refering to
 the mb service which charges for access?

Casey
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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Roger Conlon wrote:



http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html


I tried this site in the Model 126,  603 engine and I can get the subtitle
categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message.
HTTP404 File Not Found.

Any one else get this to work?

Roger


The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser 
are you using?


Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better 
than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the 
plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your 
browser may be necessary).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:01 PM, Tom Scordato wrote:


John thanks for asking.  The answer is yes I could do those things you
describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you 
describe.
But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts 
on
eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect.  Besides it gives 
me

something to do.  Keeps me out of pool halls and such.

Regards Tom Scordato



So, you're not really desperate, just trying to stay out of trouble.

Parts guys shouldn't be bothered by inquiries, its their job.

	The EPC has been driving people crazy for years. Look what it did to 
Dave M. (actually, he seems to have a good handle on the EPC).


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Dave M.
John,

To add to what Tom said:

1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending
a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the
cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing
beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me
AND Rusty a lot of time - and money!

2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone,
assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy
will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in
question. Having it on your own computer is awesome.

3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same
chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are
compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have
little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts
used instead of new.

4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the
USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some
cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the
part, etc.

5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You
can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's
used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The
worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan,
etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you
have the 5-digit SA code.

6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great
to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you
can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold
really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've
done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a
Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the
proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves
me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE
placing an order.

Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy!

:-)

-Dave M.

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 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:01:59 -0500
 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE


 Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from
 look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a
 parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any
 way.
 I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts
 guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D

 John thanks for asking.  The answer is yes I could do those things you
 describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe.
 But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on
 eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect.  Besides it gives me
 something to do.  Keeps me out of pool halls and such.

 Regards Tom Scordato
 Bellefonte PA
 1977 300D
 1979 240D



Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread MICHAEL ESH

Johnny B Just answer the question or don't.

Mike
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On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:

I know the MB tech manuals are on line.  Was wondering if the EPC was 
too.

Any thoughts please.  I am getting pretty desperate.

Regards Tom Scordato



Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from 
look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a 
parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any 
way.
I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts 
guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 03:07 PM, Dave M. wrote:


John,

To add to what Tom said:

1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending
a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the
cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing
beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me
AND Rusty a lot of time - and money!


Very considerate of you. They do get paid for all that though.



2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone,
assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy
will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in
question. Having it on your own computer is awesome.


	True, having a blow-up right in front of you is fantastic. My parts 
guys are good but occasionally, they fax me a page so I can identify 
the item without being there. I'm good at ordering parts, I have a lot 
of experience in that field.




3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same
chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are
compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have
little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts
used instead of new.


Oh the EPC holds a wealth of info.



4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the
USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some
cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the
part, etc.


	Oh DaveeeyyWould you mind checking a 
US verus Euro item for me?




5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You
can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's
used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The
worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan,
etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you
have the 5-digit SA code.


	I have a lot of that info on fiche, PIA but cool, especially that my 
reader had to be rigged somewhat.




6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great
to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you
can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold
really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've
done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a
Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the
proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves
me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE
placing an order.

Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy!


	I know it is handy but I see all the trouble folks are and have been 
having with it. This scares me because until I switched to Apple 
Computers, I couldn't seem to get along with my computer/OS.
	I could really use a copy and a How to Use It Guide that would run 
on my new G5 2.7 Dually. I do repair MBs professionally. It just seemed 
like more trouble than I could handle.

Thanks for your valuable input.



:-)

-Dave M.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE

2006-02-01 Thread Luther Gulseth
Speaking of EPC'sKaleb, where's my EPC AND 123 manual??
geepers...

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