Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I change every 5k. Yeah, I know, I know. Cheap insurance and we're typically talking about twice a year for each car if that. Since the climate down here is nasty a good part of the year, I'm sure the oil takes a beating as it is. I'm sure I could go longer,

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I'm gonna call shenanigans. Nobody has ever been able to prove that anything has changed with M1. The samples I took last year look just like the ones I took in 2006 and say the oil is good to at least 10k in my 190D. The talk I heard was shortly after the

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-17 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
OK Don via Mercedes wrote: All of my (previous) MB Diesels with at or over 200,000 miles were sampled, and determined that at 15,000 mile change intervals they could go another 3-5k miles due to soot level. All other elements were in tolerance as well. Bear in mind that they leaked enough oil

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World OK Don via Mercedes wrote: All of my (previous) MB Diesels with at or over 200,000 miles were sampled, and determined that at 15,000 mile change intervals they could go another 3-5k miles due to soot level. All other

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2014-07-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Says out of stock online About what I'm paying for Car Quest full synthetic 5w40 which carries the VW spec the Jetta wants. I've more or less standardized on that for most everything although the 190D is still running M1 since I had a gallon at its last change interval. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50 around here. I have gotten into the habit of checking the two Supercenters in the area online about once a week, and when they have it I buy a couple of jugs. With three MBs running the stuff I can't afford to run out. Dan Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50

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2014-07-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I have struggled with hit or miss stock

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50 around here. I have gotten into the habit of checking the two Supercenters in the area online about once a week, and when they have it I buy a couple of jugs. With three MBs running the stuff I can't afford

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2014-07-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
trips. -Curt From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I have struggled with hit

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
the manual anyway... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I change every 5k. Yeah, I know, I know.  Cheap insurance

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2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World Did you know that stuff is not really synthetic anymore, it's just group 3 base stock. Better off using delvac 1 Dino because you should not go extended oil changes with m1 anymore Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50 around here. I have gotten into the habit of checking the two Supercenters in the area online about once a week, and when they have it I buy a couple of jugs

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I am changing about every 5k-6k and I'm perfectly happy with that.  If the oil hasn't broken in (and I would like to see the citations for these claims) by then it's not going to. For almost 25 years I worked with industrial diesels with 1000s of HP that had

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
is probably they cause... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I am changing about every 5k-6k and I'm perfectly

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I am changing about every 5k-6k and I'm perfectly happy with that. If the oil hasn't broken in (and I

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
... -Curt From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World I just did the math on this and it doesn't make sense. Here's what I'm thinking: 7.5 quarts of oil = $34.50 Oil filter

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is the lack of analysis on stationary

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2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
if we were talking about that substantial an amount of oil. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally

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2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
not interested in. Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World Not sure I understand. Every industrial engine sampling program I

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This SOP for industrial engines. You sample on a regular basis, after a few samples you have a baseline and then you just compare each new one to determine if there is excessive or unusual wear in a particular area. Same thing for hydraulic fluids. Your Cat buddies are watching for changes in

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2014-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
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2014-07-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
strategy. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Curt

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is the lack of analysis on stationary engines a factor of short

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

2014-07-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
All of my (previous) MB Diesels with at or over 200,000 miles were sampled, and determined that at 15,000 mile change intervals they could go another 3-5k miles due to soot level. All other elements were in tolerance as well. Bear in mind that they leaked enough oil that there were several quarts

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2014-07-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Some prime power stationary diesels can have centrifugal filters as well. As do some small motorcycles! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2014-07-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
As did Fiats, Renaults, and Simcas in the '60s and 70's. It was in the crank pulley. They did not have oil filters. You pulled the cover from the crank pulley and dug out the compressed sludge. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some prime