Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Possibly. Can’t hurt to ask. Dan On Jun 13, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Do you think Randy would have 123 124 interior trim parts like wood consoles? THX. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
OK. Thanks Dan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
How do I contact him? On Jun 13, 2015 9:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Possibly. Can’t hurt to ask. Dan On Jun 13, 2015, at 6:15 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Do you think Randy would have 123 124 interior trim parts like wood

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
epspa...@impulse.net mailto:epspa...@impulse.net Probably won’t hear back from him until early this coming week. He was camping at Jalama all this week for he and Lorna’s 40th wedding anniversary. Dan On Jun 13, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: How do I

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He’s around, he just does NOS stuff now, I think. Let me drop him a note and see what’s up. Dan On Jun 12, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He may very well be, although I never got a response to my email in which I shamelessly dropped Dan

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've purchased 111 parts from him in the distant past when I had several 3.5 coupes and a 109 sedan. On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He’s around, he just does NOS stuff now, I think. Let me drop him a note and see what’s up. Dan On

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve known Randy since 1989 when he had a storefront operation in Santa Barbara. Good guy, a real bulldog when it comes to finding a part that’s obscure or difficult to identify. I used to visit him when I traveled out there, usually without notice. I would just wander into the store like

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-13 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Dan, Do you think Randy would have 123 124 interior trim parts like wood consoles? THX. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-12 Thread Tom Savage via Mercedes
Andrew, Another option is to take off my hands the Made in Germany Balo rotors I've had in my basement for the last ten years. P/N 123 421 00 12 (replaces 115 421 14 12) They're yours (or anyone's if you decline) for shipping cost. Tom ___

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
He may very well be, although I never got a response to my email in which I shamelessly dropped Dan P's name.. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks Dan, nice to hear that Randy is back in the game. Years ago I found an old website of

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Dan, nice to hear that Randy is back in the game. Years ago I found an old website of his and somehow we ended up talking on the phone, he apologized for leaving the old site up, said he was out of the business. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 11, 2015 1:58:06 PM

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Buy them from the dealer. You'll pay close to the same as aftermarket, and have no worries about where they came from. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 11, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What brand should I stay away from? It seems the pads

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Call Jabba or just go to the FLAPS and get some. I think they are all chinee now anyway, but I do seem to recall that Jabba got me some for the SD he said were somehow better, they were in some branded box anyway. Who knows They aren't hard to change, be sure to get a tube of bearing grease

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Your choice. The darn things are heavy and costly to ship. Last time I did this job, genuine MBZ disks were surprisingly inexpensive (like $50 each). I usually re-bolt the wheel to the hub (just 2-3 bolts) to hold the hub while I loosen and tighten the bolts that hold the disk to the hub (and

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do -- it has been reported they do reasonable pricing for stealers. At least you would have a comparo to take to your local stealer. Don't

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Pads are a wear item, rotors are too but you should IIRC get 1 set of rotors for each 2 sets of pads. Maybe more. I put PBR rotors on my '83 240D, I got them from Rusty and Gary while told me they were junk and would wear out tomorrow (this was after the Rusty/Gary split) they gave good service

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My local dealer will happily charge 4X what I would pay at Autohaus AZ, less a 10 percent MB Club discount. No thanks.. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call Jabba or just go to the FLAPS and get some. I think they are all chinee now

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do -- it has been reported they do reasonable pricing for stealers. At least you would have a comparo to take to your local stealer. --R On 6/11/15 11:25 AM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I called Northlake but got Wayne's voice mail. What number do you have, Rich? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's why I said Jabba or FLAPS, or if you must dealer them, call the MBNorthlake in Charlotte and see what they will do --

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The only way you can be sure to get good quality parts if you're worried about it is to get them from a dealer, period. The stuff you buy from AutohausAZ sits on the shelf with loads of URO brand parts. If they're willing to sell that garbage, they can't be motivated to sell you the highest

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
BTDT, Dan. Autohaus sells the OEM rear rotors for $51 but not the front. Local dealer has a discounted price of $63.30 each, with a valid MB Club card (mine has expired). I asked for a better deal but he won't budge. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you’re sure they’re OE and you can get them cheaper, do it! However, I’m a bit confused about your earlier statement about your dealer raping you or charging 4X list, as that’s not what you just described. If shipping is free with Autohauz and you’re willing to wait, it makes sense. You

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dan, your word is gold so I am going to move up to OEM rotors. Pelican Parts sells OEM front rotors for under $50 - including free shipping Autohaus doesn't carry them. Northlake Motors doesn't answer the phone and hasn't returned my voicemail message. I also need the window brushes (L and R)

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Window scrapers are actually material sold in bulk. Let’s give this some rational thought: Knockoff: $12.00 OEM: $75.00 That means the knockoff is more than SIX times cheaper than OEM. Assuming everyone is making a profit on what they sell, the cost relationship of the knockoff to the OEM

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Would you really want to buy OLD rubber? Even if OEM would it be better to buy cheepcheepchinee rubber that might be at least NEW cheepcheepchinee rubber? conundrums! --R On 6/11/15 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: On a related note, Randy pretty much deals in NOS stuff now, so if

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
For all I know, the $12 scraper has NEW rubber, albeit of lower quality than the OEM part. Hey Rich, the same size house you live in would cost you probably triple here in DC. Does this mean your home is made out of papier mache and Chinese drywall? On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
My house would cost 10X more even if it did have chinee drywall. That might even be a good selling feature, to celebrate diversity and all... But I think we are both arguing the same point, NOS is new OLD stock which has been sitting on some shelf for who knows how long, and rubber

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nothing can equal OEM German rubber grown under careful Tutonic supervision in the idyllic plantations of suburban Stuttgart.. On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My house would cost 10X more even if it did have chinee drywall. That might

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: What brand should I stay away from? It seems the pads last longer than my rotors... Dan wrote: Buy them from the dealer. You'll pay close to the same as aftermarket, and have no worries about where they came from. *You* will pay close to the same. The rest of us?

Re: [MBZ] Need front brake rotors for my W123 300TD

2015-06-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Call them on it. Many will back down if you confront them. Otherwise, buy elsewhere. Dan On Jun 11, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My local dealer will happily charge 4X what I would pay at Autohaus AZ, less a 10 percent MB Club discount.