Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-02 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 05:22 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


A couple of my cars have full (both) undershields, my 124 only has the
front shield (now - I destroyed the rear one) and my 190D 2.5 doesn't
have ANY sound shields (the PO was an IDIOT). The factory replacements
are EXPENSIVE, but the early shields and pads are MUCH less expensive
then the later ones (but I don't know why).

Marshall
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	Mechanics must pull them off and throw them in the dumpster or 
something. I had a 201 stored at my buddies junk yard and he crushed it 
and shipped it while I was gone. I told him I had almost everything I 
wanted from it months earlier. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

Shouldn't be too hard to make one either.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-02 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 08:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I had to fabricate a new front pan for our SDL, the original was
long-gone.  I made it out of roof flashing, fiberglass, and
fiberglass batting (insulation).  It's a thoroughgoing mess
now, due to the 603's penchant for oil leaks, but it did
quiet the outside of the car down.

-- Jim



	I'm going to keep my eyes open for proper materials, like a plastic 
55gal drum plastic truck mud flap or something. I'd rig it so I can use 
those oil diapers we use in boats to soak up and quell the noise. Just 
change the diapers when they're soiled.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread David Brodbeck
James Jetton wrote:
 Did you notice the paint on the hood?  Good example of why the hood pad is so 
 important, the heat from the turbo has really done a number on it.

My '83 300D Turbo hasn't had a hood pad in years.  The paint is oxidized
but doesn't have any heat damage.  In the cool, rainy weather we're
currently having here in Seattle, rain will steam off the hood if I'm in
stop and go traffic for a while, though.

If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:09 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



	The 201 turbo hood pad would have a heat shield on the right side, 
above the turbo. The car/engine being referred to is a 1989 normally 
aspirated.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:

On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:09 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:


If the turbo got hot enough to cook paint off an unprotected hood, no
one's air cleaner would have any paint left! :)



	The 201 turbo hood pad would have a heat shield on the right side, 
above the turbo. The car/engine being referred to is a 1989 normally 
aspirated.


My 190D 2.5t original hood pad DIDN'T have the silver heat shield (nor 
does the replacement) and there's NO evidence of hood or replacement pad 
damage even after 10-15 kmi of high speed highway driving (and a LOT 
more city driving).


My '87 300TD (turbo) doesn't have any heat shield on the original pad 
either (another year or two and the pad will need replacement - but NOT 
from turbo heat - just old age).


I'm pretty sure I have seen a few OM503.96 engines (maybe late '87 
production) with heat shields above the turbo, but certainly not ALL of 
them did - and one certainly wasn't needed in either of my OM60x.96 engines.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread John Berryman


On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 12:01 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


I'm pretty sure I have seen a few OM503.96 engines (maybe late '87
production) with heat shields above the turbo, but certainly not ALL of
them did - and one certainly wasn't needed in either of my OM60x.96 
engines.


Marshall



	I just ordered a replacement for mine (na) and asked about the turbo 
pad. The cost is like 4x more. From this mfr there is a heat shield. I 
was initially thinking I would get one because it would probably add to 
the life of the pad. With the cost considered, I ordered the one 
without the heat shield. I may affix a piece of heat shielding material 
my friend liberated from Grumman.
	What about under pans Marshall? Do any of your cars still have it? 
Ever see any aftermarket? I'd really like to have all the sound 
deadning stuff installed just to see how much quieter it will be. My 
2.5 is real quiet.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-02-01 Thread Marshall Booth

John Berryman wrote:


	I just ordered a replacement for mine (na) and asked about the turbo 
pad. The cost is like 4x more. From this mfr there is a heat shield. I 
was initially thinking I would get one because it would probably add to 
the life of the pad. With the cost considered, I ordered the one 
without the heat shield. I may affix a piece of heat shielding material 
my friend liberated from Grumman.
	What about under pans Marshall? Do any of your cars still have it? 
Ever see any aftermarket? I'd really like to have all the sound 
deadning stuff installed just to see how much quieter it will be. My 
2.5 is real quiet.


A couple of my cars have full (both) undershields, my 124 only has the 
front shield (now - I destroyed the rear one) and my 190D 2.5 doesn't 
have ANY sound shields (the PO was an IDIOT). The factory replacements 
are EXPENSIVE, but the early shields and pads are MUCH less expensive 
then the later ones (but I don't know why).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Jeff Zedic

The W124s are a very nice carunfortunately, you're looking at a W201.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto



Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Sunil Hari
It's a 201, not a 124.  124's are the 300Es, 300Ds, 400Es and 500Es from the
late 80s/early 90s

190D prices have gotten really high in the last few years.  He's asking
$5500, which I've seen a few 190Ds go for on ebay.  Depending on condition
and how much you're really willing to spend ... might be a winner.

On 1/30/06, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
 the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
 the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
 All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread eric peterson
Ooops... like I said I've only had W123s and a
W126.

Eric

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Marshall Booth

eric peterson wrote:

Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
the paint also.  What is the going price for these?? 
All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1


If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Jim Keefe

 Can somebody do a Carfax check on this car?  Thank you.



From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:14 -0500

eric peterson wrote:
 Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
 the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
 the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
 All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.

 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1


If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

what is the vin

Jim Keefe wrote:


  Can somebody do a Carfax check on this car?  Thank you.




From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:14 -0500

eric peterson wrote:


Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1

If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread OK Don
wdbdb26d7kf628167 - from the eBay listing

On 1/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what is the vin

 Jim Keefe wrote:

Can somebody do a Carfax check on this car?  Thank you.
 
 
 
 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:14 -0500
 
 eric peterson wrote:
 
 Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
 the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
 the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
 All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.
 
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1
 
 If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.
 
 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread John Berryman


On Monday, January 30, 2006, at 06:54 PM, eric peterson wrote:


Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M- 
BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES- 
NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1




	You already know its a 201. They're nice cars. Nimble in comparison to  
your 123-126 experience. The Euro 190D I recently picked up looked just  
like the one on e-bay. Florida took its toll on the paint. I think the  
car is silver in the pics. It looks like cream inside.
	It probably really is a good deal except paint can be expensive, then  
again, you may want to try clear coating the upper damaged surfaces  
only. I went for the whole paint job and stripped all the trim, bumpers  
etc off of it. $678, not the greatest but respectable. In the  
springtime (maybe sooner), I will help it out a bit.
	I don't know if this is good reference but I paid $1200 for mine 1986  
2.5 5 Cyl (not 4 as yours is advertised) 62,000 miles, original  
owner. I had to do a ton of this and that but I now have a near perfect  
low mileage MB diesel for $2600.
	If I charged myself for the labor, I may have close to $5,000 in it.  
Either of these cars should hold up nicely for a good ten years if  
cared for properly. I love mine, had several before, no inherent  
problems. Well maybe the wiper.



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am


Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

 Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190 Series 190D
VIN WDBDB26D7KF628167
Body Style 4 Door Sedan
Country of Manufacture Germany


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records for this 1989 MERCEDES-BENZ 190 SERIES 190D. Note the 
highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of 
this vehicle.


Date Location Mileage Description
1990-02-06 ballwin, MO 5787 odometer reading from dmv
1992-03-24 birmingham, AL 41107 title
1996-09-09 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
1997-12-16 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
1998-09-18 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
1999-09-13 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
2000-09-13 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
2002-11-25 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
2003-09-10 birmingham, AL  registration event/renewal
2005-12-20 birmingham, AL  title
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Description Full Definition

Odometer Reading from DMV Odometer reading recorded by the state 
Department of Motor Vehicles.

Title Vehicle had title registration event reported by state DMV.
Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by state DMV.
Duplicate Title Vehicle had a duplicate title issued by DMV.
Excluded/Exempt Vehicle is generally exempt from normal/mandatory 
odometer law for the following reasons:

1.Vehicle model year is 10 years or older.
2.Gross weight of vehicle over 16000 lbs.
3.Vehicle is not self-propelled.
4.Titled to the manufacturer.

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OK Don wrote:


wdbdb26d7kf628167 - from the eBay listing

On 1/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


what is the vin

Jim Keefe wrote:



 Can somebody do a Carfax check on this car?  Thank you.





From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:14 -0500

eric peterson wrote:



Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1

If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles

2006-01-31 Thread Jim Keefe
I've attached the photo ov the ID plate.
Thank you,
Jim keefe

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:37:07 -0600

what is the vin

Jim Keefe wrote:

Can somebody do a Carfax check on this car?  Thank you.
 
 
 
 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low miles
 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:26:14 -0500
 
 eric peterson wrote:
 
 Looks nice are these W124s any good??  Also can
 the clearcoat just be resprayed or do you have to redo
 the paint also.  What is the going price for these??
 All I've ever dealt with are W123s and a W126.
 
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-190-D-1989-M-BENZ-190-D-69-241-MILES-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6328QQitemZ4608916185QQrdZ1
 
 If it hasn't been under water, looks like a NICE car.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-01-31 Thread Marshall Booth

James Jetton wrote:

Did you notice the paint on the hood?  Good example of why the hood pad is so 
important, the heat from the turbo has really done a number on it.


That car DOESN'T have a turbo!!

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-01-31 Thread Marshall Booth

Marshall Booth wrote:

James Jetton wrote:

Did you notice the paint on the hood?  Good example of why the hood pad is so 
important, the heat from the turbo has really done a number on it.


That car DOESN'T have a turbo!!

Marshall


And the bad paint is on the roof - not the hood!

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 190D Low Miles

2006-01-31 Thread John Berryman


On Tuesday, January 31, 2006, at 12:24 AM, James Jetton wrote:



Did you notice the paint on the hood?  Good example of why the hood 
pad is so important, the heat from the turbo has really done a number 
on it.



James S. Jetton
1987 300SDL 136k (with new hood pad)



Pretty good observation. Except

	The 1989 190D 2.5 never came with a turbo (1987 only). The paint is 
shot due to exposure to the sun. Deck lid and roof paint is damaged too.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am