Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the takeoff appeared normal initially until the aircraft began to rotate, the nose lifted up, however, nothing happened. The nose dropped again, then rose

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all of the technology available today, that there is not something that essentially prevents the pilot from doing that. Randy On 16/07/2014 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Second officer was Wi Tu Lo Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And the pilot was Bang Ding Ow --R On 7/15/14 10:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: More on this story: ..A passenger reported the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale Hey, I remain impressed by the fact that the plane flew well enough to land it without any further problems and amazed that with all of the technology available today, that there is not something

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
in a convertible... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
How about this thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzr313wSY_Y mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On a rough runway; something like one of the old Hartsfield runways in Atlanta? Seems like there should be a warning sensor in the tail that provided time to slow the rotation. Gerry On 7/15/2014 6:35 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 6:00 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On a rough runway; something like one of the old Hartsfield runways in Atlanta? Seems like there should be a warning sensor in the tail that provided time to slow the rotation. Or put a tailwheel on the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the ground? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the ground? Interesting. One guy says he has to duck to walk under the tail of a parked 767-300, another says that many idiots just yank the stick back and hold it there until

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That'll buff right out --R On 7/14/14 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, registration XA-TOJ performing flight AM-2 from Madrid,SP (Spain) to Mexico City (Mexico), was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
This is better http://www.wired.com/2014/07/watch-test-pilots-push-the-new-boeing-jet-to-terrifying-limits/ --R On 7/15/14 7:55 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: So, what's the desired takeoff angle of attack, and at what angle does the tail hit the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 15/07/2014 5:35 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen anything like that. I can’t believe they didn’t feel it. Oh well. Jon They just didn't want to admit it. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey wrote: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, ... was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. Jon wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have never seen

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Rotating for takeoff refers to the airplane rotating at the center of lift, which at takeoff will be the approximate centerline of the wings, ie.. nose up, tail down, to increase the angle of attack of the wings, generate greater lift, and defeat gravity temporarily, also known as flight. Large,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Actually, initially, it is rotating about the wheel or bogey axles, more or less, to get the nose up to generate more angle of attack and more lift. This guy rotated it a bit much before the wheels got off the ground, or maybe shortly after. The old 727s would slowly do that on the ground if

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey wrote: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, ... was rotating for takeoff from Madrid's runway 36L when the tail of the aircraft contacted the runway surface leaving debris behind. Jon wrote: Holy Batman! I’ve been flying 757-767’s for 8 years now, and have

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-15 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
The 727 was sensitive to CG on the ground, but it was never fueling that caused any of that. It was mostly loading passengers with nothing in the cargo bins. That was why Delta had a policy of leaving the aft stairs down until loading was almost complete. As far as 757-767’s go, it about

Re: [MBZ] OT: Another Fkying Tale

2014-07-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Certainly makes it easier to work on the APU now. Dan always looking for a bright side... On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: See the photo at the end. Narrative: An Aeromexico Boeing 767-200, registration XA-TOJ performing flight AM-2