Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I don't want to stay up all night waiting . . . On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A 12g "wire" would work wonders too > > -R > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We've installed a "mouse fence" around the carport - 10" high aluminum flashing all the way around. You have to lift and move the section behind the car you're going to drive, but since we typically only drive each one once a week, that's not a big deal. So far, no more indications of mice in the

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
red.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:57:27 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > However, one of the traps was carried 20 feet or so down the drive one > night, and now i

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
A 12g "wire" would work wonders too -R On 9/8/15 3:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Hence, I'm off to install and electric fence wire an inch or two above the "mouse fence" to discourage (or hopefully kill) what ever is prowling around the cars at night.

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
BUT it is hard on the finish on the car. RB On 08/09/2015 3:32 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: A 12g "wire" would work wonders too -R On 9/8/15 3:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Hence, I'm off to install and electric fence wire an inch or two above the "mouse fence" to discourage

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:57:27 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > However, one of the traps was carried 20 feet or so down the drive one > night, and now it's missing altogether, so I'm thinking I'm dealing > with something larger than a mouse. That, or something larger is

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t;; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a park-like setting. On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via M

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring > > I am n

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
you don't work in the healthcare system? > > -Curt > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM > Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
es@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring > > A solitary rabbit that eats almost anything will survive just fine in a > park-like setting. > > > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
sfo...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring I am not into "saving" the bunny.  I am merely protecting the hard wor

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
r plan is just to dump your problems and let > > somebody else take care of them... > > -Curt > > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring So what you're basically saying is that I need to slaughter anything that moves in order to relieve it of suff

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread clay via Mercedes
Your plan is just to dump your problems and let somebody else take > care of them... > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wedn

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Andrew wrote: > > I just don't enjoy killing things. Does this mean I can't > drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak? Ah! THAT is a much better statement than the one you used earlier... > I would never willfully shoot or kill any other living > creature, other than biting insects or

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
At least I'm not a liar. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Andrew wrote: > > > > I just don't enjoy killing things. Does this mean I can't > > drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak? > > Ah! THAT is a much better statement than the one

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
-Curt > > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 11:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's too easy. The challenge is to catch the smartest wabbit in all of suburban D.C. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 03/09/2015 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> I am not into "saving" the bunny. I am merely

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 03/09/2015 9:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I am not into "saving" the bunny. I am merely protecting the hard work and investment in a small vegetable garden by attempting - fruitlesslly so far - to humanely a wabbit and move him a few hundred yards away to a new site. How is

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin from eating your car? Cats. Specifically, _hungry_ cats. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring I just don't enjoy killing things.  Does this mean I can't drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak? On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wr

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
g the cheese without setting it off... > -Curt > > From: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] O

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So this means I have to kill things with my own hands to become pure? No, to understand. To become real. Confucius say: I hear and I forget I see and I remember I DO, and I UNDERSTAND! Until you kill your own food, you do not understand. When you don't understand, you dont appreciate what

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Who says I don't understand? Are bunny killers more real than someone who humanely traps them? On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So this means I have to kill things with my own hands to become pure? >> > > No, to understand. To become

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I just don't enjoy killing things. Does this mean I can't drive a Mercedes or eat the occasional steak? On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Short of parking in a hermetically sealed garage, how does one keep vermin >> from eating your car?

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eati

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
n List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring Who says I don't understand?  Are bunny killers more real than someone who humanely traps them? On Wed, Sep 2, 2015

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 01/09/2015 3:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I had a different problem this year. The rustbucket SDL has been parked for the summer. Behind the driver's side headlight, around the A/C pressure switch/drier there was a bunch of grass and mud. No mouse nest, but it looked like

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Bunnies eat mint leaves? > I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract > them better but I have a

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 01/09/2015 3:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Bunnies eat mint leaves? I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the trap really well. -Curt Fellow out at the lake suggests

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Lock up one cat inside the car, one under the hood. On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Cat? > > --R > > > > On 9/1/15 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport. >> >> My

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Cat? --R On 9/1/15 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport. My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on. Turns out

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
cups of mothballs under the car? -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the w

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport. My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure lights were also on. Turns out rodents have chewed up almost $600 worth of wiring. Short of

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with Americans today is that they are too far removed from the production of food." That rang true for me. > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:24 PM > > I

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
You're vegan? Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by other critters. Curt Shifting pain, shifting debt, shifting blame, shifting cost, shifting kil ling are all non existent in the liberal mindset.

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:44:05 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport. > > My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no > power steering (electrical), the ESC and tire pressure

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
That's a very good idea, but you wouldn't have to make little parachutes. Just tie helium balloons to their bellies and let them float away. They'll drift for miles and you'll know how far when you start hearing reports of tiny alien invaders. Another solution would be baby pythons from the

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Do liberals drive Mercedes in your analysis? Just checking. On Sep 1, 2015 9:46 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > You're vegan? >> >> Its more humane to kill outright than to cause suffering. Transplanting >> critters kills them slow as they starve or are killed by

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
About 2.5 per acre - - Not enough. see the previous email with the 4 step plan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I had a different problem this year. The rustbucket SDL has been parked for the summer. Behind the driver's side headlight, around the A/C pressure switch/drier there was a bunch of grass and mud. No mouse nest, but it looked like something bigger had slept there. My second though was

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Bunnies eat mint leaves? I've been using almond slivers for the chipmunks. Walnuts probably attract them better but I have a bag of stale almond slivers and they glue onto the trap really well. -Curt If DDT was as bad as "they" want us to believe, I'd dust my hostas with DDT.

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
For mice, I have a five gallon metal kerosene can. The dregs of a keg of beer get installed in the lower portion of the can, about eight inches. Mice will try to get in to enjoy the beer. Rat size hole at the top, slick side, deep enough that only the rats can touch bottom. Mice lose hope

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with Americans today is that they are too far removed from the production of food." That rang true for me. -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:24 PM I would

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
How true! On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A few years back I heard a commentator remark that "the problem with > Americans today is that they are too far removed from the production of > food." That rang true for me. > > -- OK Don

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
omas79td...@constructivity.net> > Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring > > Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber > > --R > > > > On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > I have

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no avail. What is their favorite food? On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > About 2.5 per acre - - > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
n List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no avail.  What is their favorite food? On Tue

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no avail. What is their favorite food? lead! I am sure your neighbors would not mind! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
We have several feral cats around the house and the neighboring property - still have mice. a. get more cats b. the cats are not hungry enough or c. the cats are too stupid to hunt. d. Tell SWMBO and the neighbors to stop feeding the cats. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber --R On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I have set a trap for m

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No one is feeding the cats - they are feral, and have been for the four years we've been here. What I've read else where indicates that cats don't keep mice out of engine compartments. Solid aluminum fences do apparently - - http://www.hastingsreserve.org/Mammals/MiceInCars.html On Tue, Sep 1,

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Be careful - might be a hornet's nest. On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > About 2.5 per acre - - >> > > Not enough. see the previous email with the 4 step plan. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > >

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber --R On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > I have set a t

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Now this sounds promising - "Mouse Trap Powered By Electric Fence Charger " ""You can catch mice with very little expense and no poison. All you need is an electric fence charger," says inventor Keith Lamb of Gruver, Texas. According to Lamb, a single 12-volt or 110-volt fence charger can be used

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We have several feral cats around the house and the neighboring property - still have mice. On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Cats? > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I read on one site that they live trapped the mice, spray painted them, then dumped then over a mile away. They caught them again in two weeks. This got me thinking about strapping little parachutes on them and dropping them a hundred or so miles away and seeing if they ever make it back. The live

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
About 2.5 per acre - - On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> cats How many felines do you have per square yard? > > > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Lead, in .177 or .22 caliber --R On 9/1/15 4:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I have set a trap for my mint- and pepper-leaves- eating bunny to no avail. What is their favorite food? On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: About 2.5

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎OK Don inquires: >Turns out rodents have chewed >up almost $600 worth of wiring. >Short of parking in a hermetically >sealed garage, how does one >keep vermin >from eating your car? Fresh Cab.

Re: [MBZ] OT (?) Mice eating the wiring

2015-09-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cats? Sent from my iPad > On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > We live in the country. We park the seldom used cars under a carport. > > My wife got in the car last week to go to the store and found she had no > power steering (electrical), the