Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Max, I don’t do VOIP, other than at work. It’s inherently unsecure depending on how the traffic is being handled. If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation. Sorry. Dan On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: ...If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation. Well... That peaks out interest. What might we hear? Some things most don't know? I suggest most of us talk stuff nobody is curious to hear, not even stuff appropriate for a girlfriend... if that applies... it

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Part of the work I do involves looking at traffic to see how secure it is. There is readily available, open source packet capture software (Wireshark is the most popular) that can be used to open up pretty much any protocol in a data stream that isn’t encrypted. VOIP is easy to encrypt, and

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Mitch, Yes, I'm quite tempted to ditch the Android OS that came loaded on my phone and install a CyanogenMod OS, which offers more privacy by default. Somehow I don't think that Apple devices are offering too much more in the way of privacy. Back to the original topic, I've already got a Skype

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Dan, can you recommend an alternative? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 26, 2015 3:37:16 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And if you're worried about nosy people, Skype is the last place you want to be. They were willingly handing over data to

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On June 26, 2015 at 2:46 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Looking in Google Play, there are dozens of apps, and reading the permissions required gives me the heebie-jeebies. The permissions thing, and the amount of data that the OS and non-removable Google apps

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And if you're worried about nosy people, Skype is the last place you want to be. They were willingly handing over data to nosy folks long before people were aware of it, I believe. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 26, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Dan- what about Zoom? On Jun 26, 2015 3:47 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan, can you recommend an alternative? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 26, 2015 3:37:16 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And if you're

Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-26 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Skype: Wrong-O, they are part of the Microsoft-Borg, not Google-Borg. Oh well, MS already has a lot on me. I should buy stock in these bozos so I at least get a small share of the profit they make selling my data... - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Meade