Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Blowby is blowby, so removing an oil cap on any engine should give you a cursory review of the relative level of blowby gases present in the crankcase at a given time. This car should return upward of 40mpg and may even exceed 50mpg if you're lucky. They're fairly nice cars, but certainly no Mercedes, by any stretch. An '82 Jetta should be a 1.6L w/solid lifters. I'm lazy, so I prefer the hydraulic lifters, which showed up in the '85 and later NA and turbo engines (Golf, Jetta and Quantum). On 11/26/05, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (206k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
They have machined disc of various thickness to determine clearance. I put over 500K on an 82 pickup and never changed the valve adjustment. I sold the truck for $1000 and still see it on the road now and then. I also had a 1978 and 1984 4-door and never touched the valves on those. Not nearly as many miles on these two. I got just over 40 MPG on the pickup and about 48 on the 84 sedan. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Yes, it's a 1.6L NA engine. Now that I've got the big 03 Dodge Cummins, this little jetta is going to run around town and test out my biodiesel when I get my homebrew setup going. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
My family has owned '82, '86, and '91 Jettas, and I have an '82 Vanagon with an '86 TD in it. Yes, the oil cap removal blowby test works. They switched from solid to hyd lifters in '86, so the '82 has solids. Of all we had, we liked the '86 the best. The earlier ones were pretty primitive and shaky, the '92 was more refined, but more cheaply built. The '86, for some reason, even though it had the same engine, was faster, quieter, got better mileage, and was more robustly constructed. Still, they're good, economical, reasonably rugged little cars. Pretty noisy on the highway, though, and really revved and screaming at 75. That's why I got rid of mine and got a 300SD. But arouind town, they're fun to drive, so long as you don't mind the leisurely acceleration, and get 40+ mpg. Watch for cracked heads--check the coolant bottle for oil residue. If they're some in there, you're due for a new head. Dan I know that at least a couple of you (dave M and Casey) are into these. I'm interested in buying a 1982 VW Jetta diesel, 210K miles, always garaged, a 2 owner car in reasonably well kept condition. Does the same oil cap removal blow by test work for these engines? Also, are these equipped with hydraulic lifters or solid ones that require adjustment every so often? TIA, Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon -- Dan Weeks Freelance Writing and Photography 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Your mention of the compression ratio (23:1) made me wonder if the correct Compression can be calculated by multiplying the 23 X's 14.6 (normal atmospheric pressure) = 336psi ?? Or does that make *no* sense at all? Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels The engine in the old VW Jetta will be the Volvo/Renault/VW engine -- 23:1 compression ratio, prechamber, solid lifters -- the cam runs on top of the valves directly, acting on a steel disk in the bucket on top of the valve, just like Volvo gassers. They have a rotary distributor pump, and that is the only problem I've had. They are sensitive to low sulfur fuel, among other things. Drive gently until it's warmed up, since it has a cold start device that advanced the timing cold. Hard driving cold will wear out the upper cylinders. Otherwise, they tend to run about 200,000 miles between rebuilds. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
Fairly close -- standard new compression is 400+ psi, repair limit is about 300 psi. Actual compression as built is often as high as 26:1. Peter
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I do believe the 82 1.6 diesel which was VW's 2nd generation diesel had hydraulic lifters and the small discs were called cam pucks. As for how many miles you can go 200,000 is conservative, its more like 300,000+ I had a 81 Rabbit and the cold start device as you mentioned were glow plugs so I would guess the 82 Jetta which had the same engine was equipped with one as well. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:03:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels The engine in the old VW Jetta will be the Volvo/Renault/VW engine -- 23:1 compression ratio, prechamber, solid lifters -- the cam runs on top of the valves directly, acting on a steel disk in the bucket on top of the valve, just like Volvo gassers. They have a rotary distributor pump, and that is the only problem I've had. They are sensitive to low sulfur fuel, among other things. Drive gently until it's warmed up, since it has a cold start device that advanced the timing cold. Hard driving cold will wear out the upper cylinders. Otherwise, they tend to run about 200,000 miles between rebuilds. Peter ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] OT older VW diesels
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your mention of the compression ratio (23:1) made me wonder if the correct Compression can be calculated by multiplying the 23 X's 14.6 (normal atmospheric pressure) = 336psi ?? Or does that make *no* sense at all? That would all make sense IF the temperature of the compressed air didn't increase - and as the temp increases, so does the pressure. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
