Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-29 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Will it go rancid? RB On 28/07/2015 7:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Try mixing acetone with vegetable oil. Acetone has both polar (water soluble) and non-polar characteristics IIRC, but it's basically polar. Mineral oil is non-polar. Vegetable oil is polar or partly polar IIRC.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Randy wrote: My experience with the ATF and Acetone is that they separate out. It was difficult to keep them mixed together. Is that common or was there some issue with my ingredients? I don't know. I'm agitating the bucket a couple times a day to keep stuff mixed. I have done very little

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Try mixing acetone with vegetable oil. Acetone has both polar (water soluble) and non-polar characteristics IIRC, but it's basically polar. Mineral oil is non-polar. Vegetable oil is polar or partly polar IIRC. Therefore, vegetable oil should more easily mix with vegetable oil than mineral oil.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
archer75--- wrote: Note about WD-40: In my experience [liquid] doesn't work as well as WD-40 in pressurized cans. Does the pressurizing agent let the WD-40 more easily penetrate corrosion? It could, I guess. The carrier is a light, volatile that I suppose could wick into tight spaces.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yeah, in that case the sand might not be the best thing to tumble it in. ;-) Manfred Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:18:27 -0500 From: fmiser fmi...@gmail.com The chain on this is a roller drive-type chain. Think bicycle or motorcycle - but _big_. It is only slightly rusty. At one end of the

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Randy wrote: My experience with the ATF and Acetone is that they separate out. It was difficult to keep them mixed together. Is that common or was there some issue with my ingredients? Curly wrote: You probably didn't use the politically correct form of transgender oil.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:23:21 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Heh. I have a 1-ton link-chain hoist that operates with a chain loop rather than a lever. Much more convenient than a level hoist if the hoist is way up there. And the 1-ton is smaller and lighter. I

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil - was: '06 320CDI

2015-07-28 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I forget, does washing soda and electricity cause hydrogen embrittlement? Seems like I remember somebody telling me I ruined a rusty Estwing by electrolysis. It does, supposedly, but the effect is temporary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Fmiser wrote: I guess I'll just need to build a barn to use it. *smiles* Maybe just a little one - 50 x 90 ft [15 X 30 m]. Insulated, of course. Exactly! Now that you have the hoist, you need to build the barn to use it in. The unintended consequences are that you then get a shop and a

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
fmiser wrote I acquired a monster chain-type come-a-long and am currently soaking the chain in a (covered) bucket of ATF and acetone. We'll see... It took most of a gallon of used ATF to cover the chain. I put a bit less than 2 cups of acetone. Maybe not enough - but I'm cheap!

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I have one of those units and it works fairly well. It is a bit sticky on the reversing lever and requires a little finesse. Probably needs to be cleaned and lubed too. Don't use it much but it is there when we need it. I think the last use was to remove a small block Chevy engien from a boat.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Fmiser wrote: Once the chain is flexing well it should be fully operational. I don't know what I'm going to do with the monster then. Curly wrote: You can use it to pull engines under a tree limb or under a truss in your steel shed or under an A frame you built. Heh. I have a

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 28/07/2015 4:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: My experience with the ATF and Acetone is that they separate out. It was difficult to keep them mixed together. Is that common or was there some issue with my ingredients? RB You probably didn't use the politically correct form of

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The chain on this is a roller drive-type chain. Think bicycle or motorcycle - but _big_. It is only slightly rusty. At one end of the chain I use ATF and some movement and got the chain flexing well. My objective is to get oil into the joints so they will move - probably will require some

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
My experience with the ATF and Acetone is that they separate out. It was difficult to keep them mixed together. Is that common or was there some issue with my ingredients? RB You probably didn't use the politically correct form of transgender oil. Either that or the transgender who sold you

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-28 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
PB Blaster I have found to be pretty good at getting rusty things losened then you can go at them with other stuff. --R (who knows he suggested acetone/transgender fluid so I am not a looser) On 7/28/15 5:18 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: fmiser wrote I acquired a monster chain-type

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil - was: '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On July 27, 2015 at 2:42 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is your chain rusty? You could try the electrolysis method to get it clean and shiny again I forget, does washing soda and electricity cause hydrogen embrittlement? Seems like I remember somebody telling

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil - was: '06 320CDI

2015-07-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:05:57 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: I removed the release handle and found that the cable was disconnected. I reconnected it, only to now have a release handle that sticks out of the dash 2-3, and still doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating oil

2015-07-27 Thread MG via Mercedes
If you can get the chain out of the come-along the best way to clean it of rust is to put it into a small electric cement mixer along with a couple of shovels of sand. Worked for me a couple of times now. Soaking it in oil doesn't really get any rust off. Manfred

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-18 Thread Donald Snook
Tom wrote: Mercedes still does, in the G, M, GL, and R-Class. MB sez MB Power Steering Fluid MB Part No. BQ 1 46 0001 or an approved Dexron III ATF The difference being that you pay more for the lack of red dye in the MB stuff. The rest of the current lineup requires Pentosin CHF 11S, which fully

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-17 Thread Thomas Savage
Walt Zarnoch wrote: I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. Mercedes still does, in the G, M, GL, and R-Class. MB sez MB Power Steering Fluid MB Part No. BQ 1 46 0001 or an approved Dexron III ATF The difference being that you pay

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Rich Thomas
I think it was half/half. --R LWB250 wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they had never heard of the acetone and ATF brew. I couldn't recall what the proper ratio of ATF to acetone that was suggested - can someone refresh my memory?

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Hmmm. I like the idea of acetone/ATF. Very redneck. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think it was half/half. --R LWB250 wrote: I was talking to some of my jukebox restoration buddies about penetrating oils, and they

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Allan Streib
I just do an approx 50:50 mix. The acetone will evaporate off pretty quickly, so don't make more than you plan to use. Unless you have an airtight (probably metal or something the acetone won't eat) container. Allan On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:24 -0800, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I was

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Walt Zarnoch
/15/10, Anthony Galioto agali...@gmail.com wrote: From: Anthony Galioto agali...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:59 PM Here is the original test AG Found this on a MGB list I'm

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Dieselhead
The caution: Acetone evaporates quickly. You must keep your brew in a sealed container, or you will end up with just atf over time. Here is the original test AG Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific it is but it seems convincing. Here's some interesting comparisons on

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. MBZ back when my W116 was built. In fact, I think that applies to every Benz with a v-belt on the pump. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil - Acetone ATF

2010-01-15 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Walt Zarnoch wrote: I seem to remember at least one OEM using ATF in their PS system, darned if i can remember which. MBZ back when my W116 was built. In fact, I think that applies to every Benz with a v-belt on the pump. Volkswagen also, at least back

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread Allan Streib
I used the ATF/Acetone on my oil line fittings before I changed the lines. Had no trouble with them at all. Allan -- 1983 300D On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:40 -0400, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific it is but it seems convincing.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test I used the ATF/Acetone on my oil line fittings before I changed the lines. Had no trouble with them at all. Allan -- 1983 300D On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:40 -0400, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Thanks Larry, Good to know-I grew up on liquid wrench. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread Allan Streib
Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test I used the ATF/Acetone on my oil line fittings before I changed

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:54 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test Thanks Larry, Good to know-I grew up on liquid wrench. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread OK Don
That quotes the same article I sent to the list a year ago or so --- On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Found this on a MGB list I'm on. Don't know how scientific it is but it seems convincing. Here's some interesting comparisons on penetrating oils.

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread tyler
Do you have any more info on this? It's REALLY interesting, but I'm surprised PB Blaster doesn't do much more than WD-40- so I want to know what their methods are. I love that the cheapest thing on the list actually works the best by far! My experience is that PB Blaster works really well,

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test-now Servo Repair

2009-10-15 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I am in the process of rebuilding the climate control servo for the wife's '79 300TD. I have 2 servos from which I hope to make one good one. The good upper unit, which houses the gear train has a machine screw sheared off at the surface of the plastic housing. Who knew that about 1/4 of screw

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test

2009-10-15 Thread LarryT
...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 5:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test That quotes the same article I sent to the list a year ago or so --- On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:40 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Found this on a MGB

Re: [MBZ] Penetrating Oil Test-now Servo Repair

2009-10-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Alum should remove the screw, or at least corrode it enough to get it loose. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options