Re: [MBZ] Power steering is whinny F.S 1999 Mercedes E300 TD - $3, 000 (Fairview)

2021-06-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
How about 2k? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > SHINNY AND WHINNY TURB DIESEL > > https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairview-fs-1999-mercedes-e300-td/7332381532.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-08 Thread MG via Mercedes
Damn, stuff just doesn't last like it used to. You'd think that a seal would last a bit longer then just 30 years. Especially when the manufacturer says to use ATF. Manfred Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2016 17:27:53 -0600 From: Peter Frederick There are rumors that ATF in any

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I don't believe that. Worn out seals will leak with any color. The 300TE had the tandem pump seals worn out due to being run dry for quite a while. A kit and new seals fixed it. the 35 year old pump in the 240D weeps. It has 35 years and a few 100K miles on it, so I think it has served

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
There are rumors that ATF in any version will eat the seals out of the PS pump. My "new" 300D lost one a few years back, and the fluid was pink. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I use the Febi equivalent in my '95 E300 (and I use whatever ATF bottle is open on the shelf for my '87 wagon), which I think is like $7 or $9 per liter. At my dealer I think they charged me $12 or $15 when I had to get some of the 000 989 88 03 quickly. Febi 08972 is "recommended" for use in

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Wow! Really? I think the last liter I bought at the dealer was like $12, if that. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of > distinction in the

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of distinction in the garage. Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's > alway right no matter what. > >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's alway right no matter what. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Then M1 it is. > > Bob R > > On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Then M1 it is. Bob R On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yea that should be fine > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > M1 ATF? > > > > On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea that should be fine Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > M1 ATF? > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Not sure where you get that idea. I

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
M1 ATF? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a > 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's what I use. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no? > Would Mobil 1 ATF be an acceptable topping off fluid? > > Bob R >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
gt; > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid > > Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid > Bob R > > On Wed

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
cussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Negat

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So it appears a majority of chassis' use the Petosin CHF 11S. The W210, specifically, uses either MB fluid or Dexron III. I have some Dexron III in the garage. The information I looked at wasn't too elaborate as to Dexron III. Are all Dexron III brands/iterations the same? Bob R On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not > have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... > > -Curt > >

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... -Curt From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Bob Rentfro Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:55:29 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
I really liked the unpowered feel in Gump. Not so pleased with the dead feel of the 300d clay On Jun 1, 2015, at 11:24 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I would say that my 115 300D requires more effort than most vehicles that I have driven with power steering. My W115 200D drives

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
THe 126 with PS seems more heavy to steer than any truck I ever drove without PS. THis is a design feature The SEL's steering is nearly impossible when the engine dies. Dreadful, death on a stick. Nothing at all like the light and pleasant steering of the manual W115. Or my old Falcon, for

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I can agree with fmiser. my 110s never had PS and never needed it. they are still the gold standard to me as far as steering goes. the 123 with PS is ok. THe 126 with PS seems more heavy to steer than any truck I ever drove without PS. THis is a design feature I love the light and agile

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how it drives. I suspect that once you get over 15 mph, you'll never know it is missing. The

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power steering On 01/06/2015 6:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I would say that my 115 300D requires more effort than most vehicles that I have driven with power steering. My W115 200D drives great with manual steering. Yes, it's a bit harder in a parking lot. But _other_ than that, you don't even notice. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
clay wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. I can live without the assist, and like the feel of man handling the car. I liked that aspect in Gump. Losing the added weight would be a

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
clay wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. I can live without the assist, and like the feel of man handling the car. I liked that aspect in Gump. Losing the added weight would be a

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 01/06/2015 2:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. I can live without the assist, and like the feel of man handling the car. I liked

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
clay wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. Question is, can I delete the PS? fmiser wrote: Sure you could. But you probably want a different gearbox. Randy

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 01/06/2015 5:22 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: clay wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. Question is, can I delete the PS? fmiser wrote: Sure you could. But you probably want a

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-06-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The point has been made that power steering doesn't do much at speed. I say take the pump out of the belt circuit, as an Experiment, and see how it drives. I suspect that once you get over 15 mph, you'll never know it is missing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-03-17 Thread clay via Mercedes
Ah, well that settle it. Fix the leak, since I am not going to find a manual box for a while, and even less likely to install one properly. Better have the engine steamed which will unmask all the leak spots for me. clay On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-03-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
probably cheaper to fix the leak. You will need a manual steering gearbox. that is all. The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power steering system. I can live without the assist, and like the feel of man handling the

Re: [MBZ] Power steering

2015-03-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It will be very hard to steer since the box is setup for power steering Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2015, at 8:32 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The w115 300d has a host of issues. One I would like to resolve for next to no cash would be the leak in the power

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2014-02-11 Thread Larry T
Thanks Gary - ;-) Sincerely, Larry On 2/9/2014 8:42 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2014-02-09 Thread Gary Hurst
that's just the old school ATF in a PS bottle. i'd happily use it in a W124 On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi All, I have a liter of Hydraulic Fluid I bought either from Rusty or the MB dealer several years ago. It's FEBI (Bilstein) # 08972 and it

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-14 Thread Jon Agne
Stoddard Solvent is dry cleaning fluid. Works wonders at cleaning virtually everything. I remember procuring a gallon of it when I was going through AOCS in Pensacola for the class. We kept it in the mop closet (away from prying eyes). At the dreaded rifle inspection the DI could not find

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-14 Thread Gerry Archer
According to OSHA Stoddard solvent is a mineral spirits type solvent, obtainable in many paint stores. As a child during the 1930s I remember being sent to the filling station (service station) on the corner with an empty gallon jug for naptha. Further checking found that the term naphtha

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-14 Thread Max Dillon
Hah, that reminds me of comment from new SECDEF to a staff sergeant yesterday. Mr Hagel served as an Army grunt in Vietnam, and told the sergeant there was a time in his life when he was terrified of staff sergeants. Sergeant replied You should be sir. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-14 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY! for the sergeant. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question Hah, that reminds me

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Come on, live life on the edge! --R On 3/13/13 4:39 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Looking for a possible drain on the steering gear on my W140, I noticed there was a large bolt head about halfway up the front (bottom) side. Anyone know if this is a drain? I don't want to be removing bolts from the

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread Max Dillon
There is no drain bolt, but... The hole for the locking bolt (locks the steering gear in center position) is what I use. FSM should describe that job and show the bolt. It is either 13 or 14mm. Once you get it out, if the steering is pointed straight ahead, you will see a detent in the hole

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread G Mann
I opened the return line and slipped some rubber hose over it with a clamp, hooked up a harbor freight 12 volt pump and sucked it dry... then plumbed in a 2 liter bottle of stoddard solvent and did a power flush of the whole PS system while turning the wheel from lock to lock [car up on stands]

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread Dan Penoff
The return line on the W140 is pretty tough to get to, nothing like earlier models where it's right out there with a hose clamp on it. I don't have any Stoddard solvent, but I do have two liters of MB PS fluid, so I have plenty to flush. I'm not keen about the turkey baster/suck the reservoir

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread OK Don
Where do you find stoddard solvent these days? I haven't seen it years - but haven't really tried. I used many gallons of it washing the oil off the belly of Dad's C195, back in the day! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:02 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I opened the return line and slipped some

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering/Steering Gearbox Question

2013-03-13 Thread Brian Toscano
The turkey baster does work over time. Without solvent or flush I'd expect any new fluid to turn dark pretty quick. Once you do it a few times you'd be able to see the filter at the bottom of the reservoir for quite a while. The new fluid will end up cleaning stuff up or mixing with fluid you

Re: [MBZ] Power steering leak - yep, I did it

2012-01-13 Thread Craig
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:45:51 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: While tightening cap on 91 350SDL power steering pump a few weeks ago, I evidently let the cap turn. This caused the gasket to get slightly chewed/cut, which has resulted in a leak. Rusty is sending a new gasket. Rusty

Re: [MBZ] Power steering leak - yep, I did it

2012-01-13 Thread WILTON
'Zackly my point. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power steering leak - yep, I did it On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:45:51 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: While

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Mix with acetone, use on stuck bolts. Walt On Aug 24, 2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get rid of some things. Let's start with PS fluid. I have about a dozen bottles, various brands.

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Max Dillon
Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle linkage. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Should work fine in the older MB cars. Can also use to lube the throttle linkage. Older cars use ATF for power steering, no? -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-25 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, and I'm pretty confident that your PSF, if not too old, would work fine. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:28 -0400, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Should work fine in

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2011-08-24 Thread Rolf
Most petroleum fluids are hydroscopic, so chances are they have already absorbed enough water to make then worthless :D -Rolf On 8/24/2011 11:22 PM, Jerry Herrman wrote: It appears I throw nothing away. Which is why I have run out of room in the garage. Gotta get rid of some things. Let's

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Groaning

2009-11-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
The noise probably has something to do with the suspension rather than the power steering system. Think bushings, tie rod ends, etc. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: 79 TD, fluid is clean and up to proper level. I recall some mention

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-16 Thread E M
for that screw, maybe try an allen wrench, not a socket, and put a small matching wrench on the hex part of the shaft. I know not the standard way of doing things, but when all else fairs, you do what you gotta do. lol. Oh yeah, and watch your fingers. Good luck. Ed 300E 2009/5/15 Craig

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-16 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:22:34 -0400 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: for that screw, maybe try an allen wrench, not a socket, and put a small matching wrench on the hex part of the shaft. I know not the standard way of doing things, but when all else fairs, you do what you gotta do. lol. Oh

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-16 Thread OK Don
Exactly. I have several short pieces of Allen wrench that I've cut off the long end of one to turn with either a wrench or a 1/4 socket, depending on what will reach where. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote: On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:22:34 -0400 E M

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-16 Thread Luther
A selection of bits is very helpful, something similar to

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: A selection of bits is very helpful, something similar to http://tinyurl.com/pldtzu Ooh, nice. Undoubtedly made from the finest Chinese pot metal for that price, but there are some weird ones in there I've never heard of

Re: [MBZ] Power steering pump on W124/M119 (1994 E420)

2009-05-15 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 15 May 2009 17:20:40 -0600 Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote: I'll send pictures separately because I know they will be delayed. Here are the pictures ... Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: drivers.distributor.3.jpg Type:

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill

2008-11-14 Thread Mak
A nice way to do a flush- refill. I will try it out next time. It Sure does save the hassle of removing the pipe from the pump reservoir. regards mak - Original Message - From: Max Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:35 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread LarryT
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread E M
/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-11 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: Can anyone recommend a good brand of PS fluid, or best to just pick up the MB brand? With the cost of a new Vickers pump, I'd buy a bottle or two of MBZ stuff every five years. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze? This is news to me. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote: Mobile 1 is to expensive. What about a Castrol conventional fluid? I bought the REAL Mercedes fluid when I changed

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread Christopher McCann
I replaced PSF (using ATF, of course), by disconnecting the hose from PSP to steering box, put an electric motor on the PSP pulley (using the belt) and pumped the fluid out. It blasted out like a fire hose. Tried to refill the same way, but you cannot pour the ATF into the pump as fast as the

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF as well as antifreeze? This is news to me. I'm thinking he used MBZ power steering fluid in his power steering. IIRC, Type A ATF was the original fill on older cars (Dexron is OK for replacement), and cars made after a

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Donald Snook
Chris wrote: Not sure if that is exactly how I did it, my friend would remember better...BUT, MY POINT: has anyone done similar? I have used the suck out with baster and refill and then repeat method, but the full drain above had much better results. I used my topsider to suck it out, instead

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris wrote: Not sure if that is exactly how I did it, my friend would remember better...BUT, MY POINT

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: I'm thinking he used MBZ power steering fluid in his power steering. Yes, that is what I meant. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. Pete On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, E M wrote: Can someone refresh my memory? In a W124

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
What about the 201? Mine had a terrible leak, I replaced it and the new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
it and the new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Curt Raymond
] Subject: Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ?? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance Auto...

2008-11-10 Thread John Freer
AFAIK, I kind of remember Marshall stating that if you have a serpentine belt, you need the MB PS fluid. I have always used that as a rule of thumb. John On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Are you saying there's a Mercedes branded ATF

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread John Freer
. Peter On Nov 10, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: What about the 201? Mine had a terrible leak, I replaced it and the new one hasn't leaked but I haven't put in ATF either... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] power steering fluid ??

2008-11-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:34:11 -0600 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, do NOT use ATF, use power steering fluid (they are NOT the same!). ATF will cause the steering box to leak, as mine does. Much less after a year of proper PS fluid. The W123 chassis used ATF. I called

Re: [MBZ] Power steering flush/fill was Re: Good on Advance

2008-11-10 Thread Jim Cathey
I think that removing the return line and hand-cranking the pulley to pump out all the goo works very well. Just keep topping off the tank and pump until it comes out clean. Work the steering back and forth a few times too. It's really not that hard, if you take off the one hose and the belt.

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-02 Thread LarryT
: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D Now that I know it's the Control Valve, maybe you (or someone) could tell me how hard it is to change? Then there's always that NASCAR thing - You change steering boxes. Straightforward, but heavy

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-02 Thread Jim Cathey
I wonder if the front end will req re-alignment? Shouldn't, though it is possible your steering wheel might not be centered. That can be corrected without affecting the alignment. Carefully. Any reason not to use one from a junk yard? I would. But you risk getting one that is worn out or

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-01 Thread Jim Cathey
My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works as it should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez - what a surprise *that* was! Anyway, replacing the pump with a known good one did nothing to fix the problem. The pump doesn't know left from

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Enter your car in some NASCAR races (it would not have a problem with shredding tires)? Put an Obama sticker on it? --R LarryT wrote: Howdy - My '78 240 D has developed a problem - turning to the left works as it should but turning to righ feels like there is no PS at all! Geez -

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-01 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Problems -- '78 240D

2008-08-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Now that I know it's the Control Valve, maybe you (or someone) could tell me how hard it is to change? Then there's always that NASCAR thing - You change steering boxes. Straightforward, but heavy and usually a bit on the greasy side. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] power steering humming

2007-03-12 Thread Chris Lane
My 300SD did that when I would turn my wheels as I backed out of the driveway. It seemed to get better as the car warmed up. Check your fluid level. Mine was low when it did this. I'm not sure where mine is leaking from, but I have been periodically checking the level and topping it off.

Re: [MBZ] power steering humming

2007-03-12 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Thanks , will recheck .I am using the transparent power steering fluid mak My 300SD did that when I would turn my wheels as I backed out of the driveway. It seemed to get better as the car warmed up. Check your fluid level. Mine was low when it did this. I'm not sure where mine is leaking

Re: [MBZ] power steering leak

2006-12-15 Thread Marshall Booth
Sunil Hari wrote: What's the most likely source of a power steering fluid leak in a 92 300D? I went outside, saw a small puddle, and checked all the reservoirs, and the PS reservoir is near empty. The hoses can leak, the pump seal can leak and the steering box can leak. You need to find

Re: [MBZ] power steering leak

2006-12-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Lines, pump, or box. Sunil Hari wrote: What's the most likely source of a power steering fluid leak in a 92 300D? I went outside, saw a small puddle, and checked all the reservoirs, and the PS reservoir is near empty. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Juice

2006-07-01 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Larry-IIRC the answer is no. I asked about it for mine. Marshall said any MB spec PS fluid would work-I haven't checked specs. I used the expensive Febi stuff from Rusty. I will look for the post and send it to you off line. I stand corrected, all. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Juice

2006-06-27 Thread Marshall Booth
LarryT wrote: If I knew how to search the archives or if my memory were better I wouldn't have to bother you with this - is Mobil 1 ATF acceptable for use in the power steering? It's for my 91 300D 2.5T W124 ATF is NOT approved for your car (but I doubt that it would do any harm). You

Re: [MBZ] Power steering leak?

2006-06-20 Thread Trampas
Most common leak is power steering hoses. Sometimes pressure hose leaks only when turning. Second most common from my experience is power steering box. Third is front pump seal, which is usually a slow leak. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] power steering filter / fluid change

2006-03-02 Thread Bob Rentfro
Hey LT Don...how's the VW doing? Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] power steering filter / fluid change Given the great Iowa weather (about 60F) I

Re: [MBZ] power steering filter / fluid change

2006-03-02 Thread LT Don
Going very well. My $50 car is now a $400 car with new tires still to follow. It is up on four jack stands at the moment, over in Jeff's (brother-in-law, hopefully coming to OkieQ 2006) garage. So far [major stuff only] -- new half-shaft (Rusty), new starter (Rusty), and new brake master cylinder

Re: [MBZ] power steering filter / fluid change

2006-03-02 Thread Loren Faeth
Don, A recent NAPA flyer listed NAPA full synthetic. Maybe you or Jeff could figure out if it is made by mobil. I think there is a NAPA in J-son isn't there? It might be a source of M1 without having to drive all over to find it. Oreilly was advertising M1 oil filters last summer... THey

Re: [MBZ] power steering filter / fluid change

2006-03-02 Thread LT Don
Yes, there is a NAPA here. We normally head out to Carroll, Boone or Fort Dodge at least every other weekend, if only to get out of Jefferson for a bit. WalMarts at all three locations. O'Rielly's in all three towns. I put in Mystic this evening just to flush out the old crap before I re-drained

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Don, I do not know about the 1990 SEL but recently changed mine out in my 1979 240D. I went to Wal-Mart and bought the cheapest ATF ($1.50 a quart) and used about two quarts to flush it out. Drained it, put in the cheap stuff ran it a few minutes, drained and repeated until the new stuff in

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car. Donald Snook wrote: I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from Rusty. My power steering fluid is BROWN (like oil). Who knows how long it has been in there. I hope that is enough fluid to change

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-02-01 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: Thats odd considering the dude supposedly did all this work to the car. I thought it was strange too. But, I looked through the repair orders from the dealer and there was nothing related to the power steering. They (the dealership) flushed the break fluid 3 times in 27

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2006-02-01 Thread RDeafBoy
Donald others, Imagine the shock that I got when @ 171,176 miles, I removed a Ceramic cylindrical sleeve. I guess this is the orignal filter ??!! Anyway I flushed and filled with Dextron II ATF with new filter [per MB guy]. I did this Oct.2005 [ 83 240D]

Re: [MBZ] Power steering fluid change

2006-01-31 Thread Sunil Hari
Can't recall 126s, but on my 123 it only took .5L to do a full flush of the steering box. Don't think it should take more than a liter to do the whole thing on a 126. On 1/31/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just ordered two liters of Power Steering Fluid and a filter from Rusty.

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