Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, I did some looking and saw that there is a lot of action around 
these cars.  Dropping later ricer turbo engines in them and such.  
Who'dathunk ol' gramps was an incipient ricer boy.  Well I guess it'll 
probably sit there in the barn a while longer anyway, just going up in 
value!  It is actually in decent shape except for the interior which the 
mice have chewed up, but the body has just a few dings, and it was a 
driver til it was parked.


Thanks for the replies -- I had no idea this car might actually be worth 
something other than as a platform for experimentation.


--R

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Ooh!  Don't let that one get away, no matter how bad that condition. 
Datsun 510s are real collector's items with a huge cult following, at

least on the West Coast.  I rarely see them in Portland (a hotbed of
car nuts), but when I do they are always beautifully restored or
obviously built up for autocross or other amateur racing events
(low-profile tires, roll cage, lightweight seats, etc.).

On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Yeah it is a 510.  I looked under the hood briefly and thought I saw
half shafts going to the front wheels but maybe I was delusional.  I'll
do some searching on it, see what might be possible.

--R

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

   


Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
on mods including engine swaps...)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-29 Thread LT Don
Here's a radical idea -- why no keep it as a Datsun 510 and do some
restoration stuff?

On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah it is a 510.  I looked under the hood briefly and thought I saw
 half shafts going to the front wheels but maybe I was delusional.  I'll
 do some searching on it, see what might be possible.

 --R

 Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
 known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
 2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
 on mods including engine swaps...)
 
 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo
 
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Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-29 Thread Bob Rentfro

You're always thinking out of the box you paradigm breaker you

Bob Rentfro


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Here's a radical idea -- why no keep it as a Datsun 510 and do some
restoration stuff?

On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah it is a 510.  I looked under the hood briefly and thought I saw
half shafts going to the front wheels but maybe I was delusional.  I'll
do some searching on it, see what might be possible.

--R

Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
on mods including engine swaps...)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-28 Thread Peter Frederick

Ah, youth!

Yes, you could probably stuff the front end off an SL under there (you 
will have to replace the suspension anyway -- the Benz engine would 
squash it!) -- I would look for a complete subframe from a W107, that's 
the easy way.


Much better plan than one of those silly ricer jobs with nothing but a 
sewer pipe exhaust droning away and plastic wings -- I routinely blow 
them off the road with my 300D!


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is a little front-wheel drive thing, nothing special, but kinda funky
 in its way.  Got me thinking that doing a rat rod job on it might be
 kinda fun at some point, put some power in it, rear-wheel drive, weld in
 some frame to hold it all, etc.  An old rat rod ricer!  Then I got
 thinking that rather than the standard 350, an old Benz engine/tranny
 would be kinda cool.  Probably not a diesel unless I did one of those
 Finnish mods to give it stupid power.  And it would have to have a
 boomer sound system and wiper/underneath neon and skulls (or maybe
 Godzilla heads).  And a couple of wings, gotta have wings.

 The car has a 4 ft track and an 8ft wheelbase, more or less, a sheet of
 plywood size!  Not a lot of room to stick much under the hood, but those
 older SLs really cram a lot in not much more space, if even.  And 190s
 and such are not a lot bigger.  Hmmm...  A 6 or an 8, maybe a 5?

Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
on mods including engine swaps...)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-28 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah it is a 510.  I looked under the hood briefly and thought I saw 
half shafts going to the front wheels but maybe I was delusional.  I'll 
do some searching on it, see what might be possible.


--R

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
on mods including engine swaps...)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-28 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
You could pop an engine out of a 240d in the thing. There isn't enough 
actual metal in that old datsun to hold it back any. the thing would be 
a screamer :-)


---Robert

Rich Thomas wrote:
So in my dad's barn is a 70something Datsun wagon that belonged to my 
grandfather, and when he got sick/died my dad stuck it in the barn where 
it has sat for 15 or 20 years.  I was visiting the other day and dusted 
it off and looked at it.  It is quite good shape body-wise, the interior 
smells really bad from all the inhabitants over the years.  It was 
running when parked, probably would not be hard to get running again.  
But that was not really my thought...


It is a little front-wheel drive thing, nothing special, but kinda funky 
in its way.  Got me thinking that doing a rat rod job on it might be 
kinda fun at some point, put some power in it, rear-wheel drive, weld in 
some frame to hold it all, etc.  An old rat rod ricer!  Then I got 
thinking that rather than the standard 350, an old Benz engine/tranny 
would be kinda cool.  Probably not a diesel unless I did one of those 
Finnish mods to give it stupid power.  And it would have to have a 
boomer sound system and wiper/underneath neon and skulls (or maybe 
Godzilla heads).  And a couple of wings, gotta have wings.


The car has a 4 ft track and an 8ft wheelbase, more or less, a sheet of 
plywood size!  Not a lot of room to stick much under the hood, but those 
older SLs really cram a lot in not much more space, if even.  And 190s 
and such are not a lot bigger.  Hmmm...  A 6 or an 8, maybe a 5?


Any thoughts?  (I realize this could be viewed as really stupid, or 
whacked, or weird, and I agree!)  Donations?


(This is a better discussion than loud motorcycle mufflers)

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Ricer Rat Rod Musings

2006-01-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Ooh!  Don't let that one get away, no matter how bad that condition. 
Datsun 510s are real collector's items with a huge cult following, at
least on the West Coast.  I rarely see them in Portland (a hotbed of
car nuts), but when I do they are always beautifully restored or
obviously built up for autocross or other amateur racing events
(low-profile tires, roll cage, lightweight seats, etc.).

On 1/28/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah it is a 510.  I looked under the hood briefly and thought I saw
 half shafts going to the front wheels but maybe I was delusional.  I'll
 do some searching on it, see what might be possible.

 --R

 Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 Sure it's front-wheel-drive?  Sounds like a 510, which was RWD (and
 known in its day for terrific handling... sort of a Japanese BMW
 2002).  (And if it IS a 510, there is lots of info out there already
 on mods including engine swaps...)
 
 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo
 
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