Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
On Jul 19, 2015 2:13 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably kept quiet. I'll be seeing the SIL in a little while, will ask her --R Maybe UNC ran out of money after restoring Frampton's back pay. (Fun read for the peanut gallery: http://mungowitzend.blogspot.com/2015/06/frampton-comes-home.html ) At NC State in 98 or so I took an intro to economics class with a bunch of athletes, and they had a surprisingly difficult time of it - yet in the end almost everyone got an A. However, I can confirm that work was done, as I helped a number of my classmates with homework. (And thenceforth tried to take math-y classes only with other engineering students...) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
The 300SE did a fine job transporting #1 boy from WA to ND. He had not taken it more than 30 miles anywhere until this adventure. Standard MPG was in the 15 range, but he has a 28 gallon tank. His first highway fuel stop returned 17MPG. Pretty good clearing cobwebs. Second fuel stop he was up to 19.5MPG, but there were no mountain passes, so Last fill up he was clocking 21MPG. A 30% increase in miles is nice. I am not sure what the M119 returned, but the smaller inline 6 has enough power to chirp wheels if needed. clay On Jul 17, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The boy has said he will drive his car for the duration until we can find another W140 rather than going up to a W210. He even agrees that an S320 would be ideal due to mileage and fuel consumption. While I don’t think it will be that much better than the M119 based on what I’ve heard from S320 owners, it’s an improvement for sure. There’s a nice one in St. Pete that just came up on CL today that I may go look at tomorrow. Also, by sticking with a W140 we can swap some things over to a “new” car before getting rid of the coupe. Dan On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bingo. Devil you know vs. devil you don't. However, Dan has pointed out other good reasons for changing cars (fuel consumption, safety, inspiration). - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Would you be willing to pay $2000 for another car that had those repairs done, and was as well sorted out as what that one is? You buy another car and there will be mysteries. Most of those mysteries you have already found on the car you have. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
On July 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, read NCAA report, too. I understand that Mary would not any more association with the bunch, but she was done dirty for doing what she knew was right. She deserves a full apology, an offer of full reinstatement and back pay from when she was fired. She should sue them for it, then quit as soon as she gets the check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
But she needs to be made whole by the Almighty-Athletics-Department-Can-Do-No-Wrong-Worshiping fools at UNC-CH who wrongly sullied her name. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies She made some money off her book, and I think there might have been some sort of settlement. --R On 7/19/15 7:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, read NCAA report, too. I understand that Mary would not any more association with the bunch, but she was done dirty for doing what she knew was right. She deserves a full apology, an offer of full reinstatement and back pay from when she was fired. She should sue them for it, then quit as soon as she gets the check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
'Don't think I've heard of a settlement. 'May have missed it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies She made some money off her book, and I think there might have been some sort of settlement. --R On 7/19/15 7:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, read NCAA report, too. I understand that Mary would not any more association with the bunch, but she was done dirty for doing what she knew was right. She deserves a full apology, an offer of full reinstatement and back pay from when she was fired. She should sue them for it, then quit as soon as she gets the check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
Probably kept quiet. I'll be seeing the SIL in a little while, will ask her --R On 7/19/15 1:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 'Don't think I've heard of a settlement. 'May have missed it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies She made some money off her book, and I think there might have been some sort of settlement. --R On 7/19/15 7:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, read NCAA report, too. I understand that Mary would not any more association with the bunch, but she was done dirty for doing what she knew was right. She deserves a full apology, an offer of full reinstatement and back pay from when she was fired. She should sue them for it, then quit as soon as she gets the check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
She made some money off her book, and I think there might have been some sort of settlement. --R On 7/19/15 7:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 1:11 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, read NCAA report, too. I understand that Mary would not any more association with the bunch, but she was done dirty for doing what she knew was right. She deserves a full apology, an offer of full reinstatement and back pay from when she was fired. She should sue them for it, then quit as soon as she gets the check. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
Nope. He would like to have another coupe, but that’s highly unlikely. His current ride has very little in that department. He’s pretty much open to anything W140 at this point. Dan On Jul 18, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Does he need a roomy back seat? A lot of the S320s are SWB. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
The $5500 one was sold several weeks ago and the seller hasn’t taken the ad down. The $8000 one has been on the market in various iterations for almost a year. The guy thinks he’s got some sort of super rare car and wants stupid money for it. Thanks, Dan On Jul 18, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 18, 2015 at 7:19 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. He would like to have another coupe, but that’s highly unlikely. His current ride has very little in that department. He’s pretty much open to anything W140 at this point. Two months ago, the only green W140 (emerald, not black opal) on autotrader was a S500 coupe. I think it's this one, after 2-3 months maybe it's time for them to talk price: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33601showcaseOwnerId=64172483listingId=389072580 Right now, there are two 1994 black S500 coupes in the Tampa area with five digit odometer readings. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/Tampa+FL-33601?endYear=1999makeCode1=MBmmt=[MB[][S_CLASS[]]]modelCode1=S_CLASSsearchRadius=25showcaseOwnerId=64172483startYear=1992Log=0 Road Trip! http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33601listingId=401786273 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
On July 18, 2015 at 7:19 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. He would like to have another coupe, but that’s highly unlikely. His current ride has very little in that department. He’s pretty much open to anything W140 at this point. Two months ago, the only green W140 (emerald, not black opal) on autotrader was a S500 coupe. I think it's this one, after 2-3 months maybe it's time for them to talk price: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33601showcaseOwnerId=64172483listingId=389072580 Right now, there are two 1994 black S500 coupes in the Tampa area with five digit odometer readings. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Mercedes-Benz/S-Class/Tampa+FL-33601?endYear=1999makeCode1=MBmmt=[MB[][S_CLASS[]]]modelCode1=S_CLASSsearchRadius=25showcaseOwnerId=64172483startYear=1992Log=0 Road Trip! http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=33601listingId=401786273 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
Yep, a headlight assembly and buff it out. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They h ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The government owes you! You are entitled! Get your FS now! Did the first generation immigrant sneak across or follow the rules (i.e., was s/he stupid?) --R On 7/17/15 9:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... Hear, hear! Sounds like that car has plenty of life left in it, in the beater brigade. Whether or not it's in your stable, _somebody_ will like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Its the idiots that go to a big name school spending $40,000 a year for a degree in humanities or something else with no market value. Like anything you need to do some research, your heart is a terrible guide to these things... My alma-mater (Fitchburg State University) costs not a ton more now than it did when I graduated. I spent about $6,500 a year including room and board. A couple years ago I was working with a guy who graduated Emerson about the same time I did but he spent around 2x what I did. We had the same basic degree, were doing the same job, making the same money but I paid off my student loans 5 years early... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They h ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Poos should buy the boy 20 acres or so out in the weeds and let the boy start a Mercedes parts bidness, buying up clapped out POSs for $500 and stacking them on the property for later disposition. --R On 7/17/15 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A college degree imparts nothing if the owner of the degree parks his butt on the degree and waits for magic to come to him because he has it.. It seems that may be the case with many who hold student loans for their degree in liberal underwater basket weaving, or social victimology [snark full on]. Life is hard, life is harder if you don't get off your butt and apply what talents you have, to use what tools you have. A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it is written on barely. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They h ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Poos should buy the boy 20 acres or so out in the weeds and let the boy start a Mercedes parts bidness, buying up clapped out POSs for $500 and stacking them on the property for later disposition. --R On 7/17/15 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The problem it seems these days is people seem to think once they have a degree the world should be handed to them. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:03 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A college degree imparts nothing if the owner of the degree parks his butt on the degree and waits for magic to come to him because he has it.. It seems that may be the case with many who hold student loans for their degree in liberal underwater basket weaving, or social victimology [snark full on]. Life is hard, life is harder if you don't get off your butt and apply what talents you have, to use what tools you have. A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it is written on barely. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They h ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The boy attends the University of South Florida's St. Petersburg campus. Tuition for a semester runs between $2000-$3000 including books, depending on his class load. So call it $7500/year. Very affordable. We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its the idiots that go to a big name school spending $40,000 a year for a degree in humanities or something else with no market value. Like anything you need to do some research, your heart is a terrible guide to these things... My alma-mater (Fitchburg State University) costs not a ton more now than it did when I graduated. I spent about $6,500 a year including room and board. A couple years ago I was working with a guy who graduated Emerson about the same time I did but he spent around 2x what I did. We had the same basic degree, were doing the same job, making the same money but I paid off my student loans 5 years early... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I looked there as well. They had a few coupe hoods, but the price was around $1000 not including shipping. Fenders were around $300. So that’s $1300 right there without shipping. Then the cost of getting them painted, which I’m thinking might be around $500. Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Oh - don’t forget the headlight, too. That’s maybe another $200. Thanks for the suggestion, however. It was worth a shot. I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. He’s driving about 75 miles a day for the next year to attend school, so I was getting concerned about costs and the miles adding up on a car that’s approaching 300k. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:25 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 17, 2015 at 5:39 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I look a this as a blessing in disguise, as it will allow me to get the boy into something a little more modern/safer and that has better gas mileage. Better gas mileage is easy. Substantially safer than a 140 might not be so easy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wish you were closer, I would probably buy it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a local MB buddy who wants it for parts, but when the time comes I'll give it a weekend on CL at something like $1000 to see if anyone wants it before I sell it to him. I can sit here and collectively list all the $$ I've spent on it recently, but we all know that's water under the bridge and has little bearing on the market value. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... Hear, hear! Sounds like that car has plenty of life left in it, in the beater brigade. Whether or not it's in your stable, _somebody_ will like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan wrote: Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Would you be willing to pay $2000 for another car that had those repairs done, and was as well sorted out as what that one is? You buy another car and there will be mysteries. Most of those mysteries you have already found on the car you have. But whatever. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. That depends, is it worth $60k (housing etc included) a year to have your daughter date Harvard students? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whether or not it's in your stable, _somebody_ will like it. Bingo. List it on eBay as Spares or Repair, and let some truly poor kid get some enjoyment out of it. Maybe somebody will bid the modern equivalent of the $200 I paid for my first car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sorry. No title. grin Dan Shakes when starts/aluminum V8/Fat Slag Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wish you were closer, I would probably buy it Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a local MB buddy who wants it for parts, but when the time comes I'll give it a weekend on CL at something like $1000 to see if anyone wants it before I sell it to him. I can sit here and collectively list all the $$ I've spent on it recently, but we all know that's water under the bridge and has little bearing on the market value. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... Hear, hear! Sounds like that car has plenty of life left in it, in the beater brigade. Whether or not it's in your stable, _somebody_ will like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've known this family very well since our kids were in kindergarten. Mom and Dad were so focused on the academic achievements of daughter that nothing the son did could eclipse big sister. Therefore, I'm convinced he got wise after beating his head against the wall and getting nothing for it that he tossed in the towel and just said Screw it. Too bad, as he's a smart kid. Mom and Dad can't seem to figure out Where they went wrong with him. Mom's Facebook page is like an altar to the achievements of the daughter. No mention of sonny. Daughter just received the Lex award for freshmen at U of Houston Law. This must be a big deal, as she's been spouting off about it for almost a week on FB. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick My boss has BA and MA from CMU (Central Michigan, not Carnie Mellon) because his older brother dropped out of an overpriced smaller private school and their father decided it's cheaper to have your kids flunk out of a public school than a private school. (in other words, the smart kid flunked out of college, so why expect the hard working kid to do any better?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What are they now paying for law school? RB On 17/07/2015 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The boy attends the University of South Florida's St. Petersburg campus. Tuition for a semester runs between $2000-$3000 including books, depending on his class load. So call it $7500/year. Very affordable. We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its the idiots that go to a big name school spending $40,000 a year for a degree in humanities or something else with no market value. Like anything you need to do some research, your heart is a terrible guide to these things... My alma-mater (Fitchburg State University) costs not a ton more now than it did when I graduated. I spent about $6,500 a year including room and board. A couple years ago I was working with a guy who graduated Emerson about the same time I did but he spent around 2x what I did. We had the same basic degree, were doing the same job, making the same money but I paid off my student loans 5 years early... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a local MB buddy who wants it for parts, but when the time comes I'll give it a weekend on CL at something like $1000 to see if anyone wants it before I sell it to him. I can sit here and collectively list all the $$ I've spent on it recently, but we all know that's water under the bridge and has little bearing on the market value. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... Hear, hear! Sounds like that car has plenty of life left in it, in the beater brigade. Whether or not it's in your stable, _somebody_ will like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The real irony is that they have a younger son who is on the 8 year plan as they call it at the local community college. He valets at the local Embassy Suites on the weekends because he Likes to drive fancy cars. I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. That depends, is it worth $60k (housing etc included) a year to have your daughter date Harvard students? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick My boss has BA and MA from CMU (Central Michigan, not Carnie Mellon) because his older brother dropped out of an overpriced smaller private school and their father decided it's cheaper to have your kids flunk out of a public school than a private school. (in other words, the smart kid flunked out of college, so why expect the hard working kid to do any better?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One of my wife's colleagues at MDAnderson in Houston went to college in some little nothing place in Texas or Oklahoma or somewhere, worked hard to LEARN and did well. Got into med school and worked HARD to become an excellent doc, and worked his butt off as a fellow at MDACC too. His wife was totally supportive of him, they had I think 5 kids right quick at a young age, and they made it all work through all that. He was talking about all this one day and reflected that your education is what you make of it no matter where you go (or not). So, there's that... --R On 7/17/15 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I've known this family very well since our kids were in kindergarten. Mom and Dad were so focused on the academic achievements of daughter that nothing the son did could eclipse big sister. Therefore, I'm convinced he got wise after beating his head against the wall and getting nothing for it that he tossed in the towel and just said Screw it. Too bad, as he's a smart kid. Mom and Dad can't seem to figure out Where they went wrong with him. Mom's Facebook page is like an altar to the achievements of the daughter. No mention of sonny. Daughter just received the Lex award for freshmen at U of Houston Law. This must be a big deal, as she's been spouting off about it for almost a week on FB. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick My boss has BA and MA from CMU (Central Michigan, not Carnie Mellon) because his older brother dropped out of an overpriced smaller private school and their father decided it's cheaper to have your kids flunk out of a public school than a private school. (in other words, the smart kid flunked out of college, so why expect the hard working kid to do any better?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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#1 grndson called from Paris coupla days ago to say thank you for helping him with finances, character guidance, study habits, etc., and that he's glad to have gone to UNC-CH and Institute d'Etude Politique de Paris. 'Made me feel mighty good to hear it from him without any prompting. 'Reminded, him, of course, Don't forget that others have been involved, too - Mom, Dad, other grandparents - be sure to thank them, too. 'Reminds me: Just before he graduated from high school, he called me with some exciting news - he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. He and grndaughter have graduated summa cum laude (he at UNC-CH; she at NCSU) with no student debt. She's starting PhD program at U of CO next month with full scholarship, stipend, grants, etc. 'Mighty proud of bofum. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies The real irony is that they have a younger son who is on the 8 year plan as they call it at the local community college. He valets at the local Embassy Suites on the weekends because he Likes to drive fancy cars. I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. That depends, is it worth $60k (housing etc included) a year to have your daughter date Harvard students? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And avoided the commie indoctrination. Er, wait, UNC-CH Nevermind... --R On 7/17/15 1:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Beats me, but I'm sure it's not cheap. Since its Houston maybe Rich knows? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What are they now paying for law school? RB On 17/07/2015 10:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: The boy attends the University of South Florida's St. Petersburg campus. Tuition for a semester runs between $2000-$3000 including books, depending on his class load. So call it $7500/year. Very affordable. We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its the idiots that go to a big name school spending $40,000 a year for a degree in humanities or something else with no market value. Like anything you need to do some research, your heart is a terrible guide to these things... My alma-mater (Fitchburg State University) costs not a ton more now than it did when I graduated. I spent about $6,500 a year including room and board. A couple years ago I was working with a guy who graduated Emerson about the same time I did but he spent around 2x what I did. We had the same basic degree, were doing the same job, making the same money but I paid off my student loans 5 years early... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Like a close friend who is also our real estate attorney, and very, very good at it. No one has ever once asked me where I got my law degree. To this day I have no idea where he went to law school. Don't care. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: One of my wife's colleagues at MDAnderson in Houston went to college in some little nothing place in Texas or Oklahoma or somewhere, worked hard to LEARN and did well. Got into med school and worked HARD to become an excellent doc, and worked his butt off as a fellow at MDACC too. His wife was totally supportive of him, they had I think 5 kids right quick at a young age, and they made it all work through all that. He was talking about all this one day and reflected that your education is what you make of it no matter where you go (or not). So, there's that... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It sounds like Dan has a good relationship with his son. That's great and Dan should be proud of himself and proud of his son for making that happen. According to the police, Dans son hit another car. Since Dans son is in the process of becoming a responsible adult, he should have a constant reminder for a while of why defensive driving is very necessary. By chance, having to drive the car that was damaged will probably be a very good reminder until Dan finds replacement parts which are certainly available somewhere, but might take a while. Looking at the damaged car sitting in his drive every day is probably going to be harder on Dan than on his son since Dan is an admitted perfectionist, but this could be an extremely good learning experience for his son. My suggestion would be for Dan to keep looking for the replacement parts on a regular basis, even involving his son in the search if he doesn't have too much homework, and let his son drive the damaged car in the meantime. My wife and I used this approach on our children, and they grew up to be responsible and successful adults. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Absolutely! What one gets out of an education is directly proportional to what one puts into it, and I'm NOT talking 'bout money. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies One of my wife's colleagues at MDAnderson in Houston went to college in some little nothing place in Texas or Oklahoma or somewhere, worked hard to LEARN and did well. Got into med school and worked HARD to become an excellent doc, and worked his butt off as a fellow at MDACC too. His wife was totally supportive of him, they had I think 5 kids right quick at a young age, and they made it all work through all that. He was talking about all this one day and reflected that your education is what you make of it no matter where you go (or not). So, there's that... --R On 7/17/15 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I've known this family very well since our kids were in kindergarten. Mom and Dad were so focused on the academic achievements of daughter that nothing the son did could eclipse big sister. Therefore, I'm convinced he got wise after beating his head against the wall and getting nothing for it that he tossed in the towel and just said Screw it. Too bad, as he's a smart kid. Mom and Dad can't seem to figure out Where they went wrong with him. Mom's Facebook page is like an altar to the achievements of the daughter. No mention of sonny. Daughter just received the Lex award for freshmen at U of Houston Law. This must be a big deal, as she's been spouting off about it for almost a week on FB. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick My boss has BA and MA from CMU (Central Michigan, not Carnie Mellon) because his older brother dropped out of an overpriced smaller private school and their father decided it's cheaper to have your kids flunk out of a public school than a private school. (in other words, the smart kid flunked out of college, so why expect the hard working kid to do any better?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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+1 Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:59 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Absolutely! What one gets out of an education is directly proportional to what one puts into it, and I'm NOT talking 'bout money. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies One of my wife's colleagues at MDAnderson in Houston went to college in some little nothing place in Texas or Oklahoma or somewhere, worked hard to LEARN and did well. Got into med school and worked HARD to become an excellent doc, and worked his butt off as a fellow at MDACC too. His wife was totally supportive of him, they had I think 5 kids right quick at a young age, and they made it all work through all that. He was talking about all this one day and reflected that your education is what you make of it no matter where you go (or not). So, there's that... --R On 7/17/15 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I've known this family very well since our kids were in kindergarten. Mom and Dad were so focused on the academic achievements of daughter that nothing the son did could eclipse big sister. Therefore, I'm convinced he got wise after beating his head against the wall and getting nothing for it that he tossed in the towel and just said Screw it. Too bad, as he's a smart kid. Mom and Dad can't seem to figure out Where they went wrong with him. Mom's Facebook page is like an altar to the achievements of the daughter. No mention of sonny. Daughter just received the Lex award for freshmen at U of Houston Law. This must be a big deal, as she's been spouting off about it for almost a week on FB. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick My boss has BA and MA from CMU (Central Michigan, not Carnie Mellon) because his older brother dropped out of an overpriced smaller private school and their father decided it's cheaper to have your kids flunk out of a public school than a private school. (in other words, the smart kid flunked out of college, so why expect the hard working kid to do any better?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As you should be. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: #1 grndson called from Paris coupla days ago to say thank you for helping him with finances, character guidance, study habits, etc., and that he's glad to have gone to UNC-CH and Institute d'Etude Politique de Paris. 'Made me feel mighty good to hear it from him without any prompting. 'Reminded, him, of course, Don't forget that others have been involved, too - Mom, Dad, other grandparents - be sure to thank them, too. 'Reminds me: Just before he graduated from high school, he called me with some exciting news - he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. He and grndaughter have graduated summa cum laude (he at UNC-CH; she at NCSU) with no student debt. She's starting PhD program at U of CO next month with full scholarship, stipend, grants, etc. 'Mighty proud of bofum. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies The real irony is that they have a younger son who is on the 8 year plan as they call it at the local community college. He valets at the local Embassy Suites on the weekends because he Likes to drive fancy cars. I'm thinking he got overshadowed by big sister and got the short end of the stick Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 12:52 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On July 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We have friends whose daughter graduated from Brown and is now in law school at the University of Houston. They once told me that tuition at Brown cost them around $45k/year. I could never get my head around that. That depends, is it worth $60k (housing etc included) a year to have your daughter date Harvard students? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Very true. However, gaining something newer, safer, and more economical is a move forward. If resources were limited I would continue on, but that is not the case at this time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 1:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan wrote: Now we’re up to $1800 minimum, certainly more. That’s for a car with 280k on it that I paid $3000 for three years ago. The numbers just don’t work. Would you be willing to pay $2000 for another car that had those repairs done, and was as well sorted out as what that one is? You buy another car and there will be mysteries. Most of those mysteries you have already found on the car you have. But whatever. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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G wrote: A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it is written on barely. And work ethic is not learned in school. Those who succeed will succeed - with or without a degree. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 17/07/2015 1:45 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: G wrote: A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it is written on barely. And work ethic is not learned in school. Those who succeed will succeed - with or without a degree. ___ BUT it is becoming much more difficult to get one's foot in the proverbial door without the appropriate papers. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, I HAVE been very upset by UNC-CH's denial of any problem during the on-going probe of scam classes in the Afro-Am Studies Department - paper classes set up mainly to keep athletes eligible. During last 20 years, or so, 3000+ students took classes and got HIGH grades for doing NOTHING other than getting on the list. 'Damned upsetting and embarrassing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And avoided the commie indoctrination. Er, wait, UNC-CH Nevermind... --R On 7/17/15 1:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did you read the report? My SIL had some mention in there, making a fairly emphatic comment about something. Her friend Mary W wrote the book, which caused some period of estrangement, but I think they have kissed and made up over the whole thing once she got fully briefed on all the shenanigans. --R On 7/17/15 3:30 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Well, I HAVE been very upset by UNC-CH's denial of any problem during the on-going probe of scam classes in the Afro-Am Studies Department - paper classes set up mainly to keep athletes eligible. During last 20 years, or so, 3000+ students took classes and got HIGH grades for doing NOTHING other than getting on the list. 'Damned upsetting and embarrassing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And avoided the commie indoctrination. Er, wait, UNC-CH Nevermind... --R On 7/17/15 1:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is also the lack of common sense or investment made by the scholars in gobbling up loans instead of working their way to a degree. If you are busting your hump to cover tuition and expenses, you tend to be a more pragmatic consumer. Dear #1 boy and his parents found that out to the tune of $30k when he bombed out of tech U. Too much fun and games, not enough study, and the folks footing the bill. He took off for the ND oil fields last week in the W140 so he could gather enough cash to pay for school his own self. Two years of screwing around with a service job and community college course work, one class at a time was not working out and he had not really set his heart to either task. Now he will be really invested in whichever degree he takes up. SWMBA got her degrees with minimal loans, as we worked our butts off to pay for the bulk of law school. We were able to keep heads above water enough to purchase homes and other lux items that most of the wet behind the ears college bunch no longer can. Cash for cars, financed the korean car new, and #1 home is four year away from paid off. #2 home has a 15 year to go. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The problem it seems these days is people seem to think once they have a degree the world should be handed to them. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:03 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A college degree imparts nothing if the owner of the degree parks his butt on the degree and waits for magic to come to him because he has it.. It seems that may be the case with many who hold student loans for their degree in liberal underwater basket weaving, or social victimology [snark full on]. Life is hard, life is harder if you don't get off your butt and apply what talents you have, to use what tools you have. A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it is written on barely. On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on the education. On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten yourself some experience through an internship or summer job. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And what exactly is the value of an education these days? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a matter of personal preference. The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house provides wheels and covers expenses. He's a damned good student and a responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk, and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure. As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it he can get a job and buy his own car... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies I looked there as well. They h ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list
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I've read many of the reports, including Weinstein's; 'been following it for a few years now. Like I said - damned upsetting. Mary W., the tutor? They haven't done her right, yet. They need to apologize for their treatment of her and reinstate her. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies Did you read the report? My SIL had some mention in there, making a fairly emphatic comment about something. Her friend Mary W wrote the book, which caused some period of estrangement, but I think they have kissed and made up over the whole thing once she got fully briefed on all the shenanigans. --R On 7/17/15 3:30 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Well, I HAVE been very upset by UNC-CH's denial of any problem during the on-going probe of scam classes in the Afro-Am Studies Department - paper classes set up mainly to keep athletes eligible. During last 20 years, or so, 3000+ students took classes and got HIGH grades for doing NOTHING other than getting on the list. 'Damned upsetting and embarrassing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies And avoided the commie indoctrination. Er, wait, UNC-CH Nevermind... --R On 7/17/15 1:52 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: he had received a scholarship for $18K per year from American U in DC. I was very happy for him, but I had to finally remind him that it left only about $40K per year for the rest of us to pay. We were pleased when he chose to attend UNC-CH (a state-supported U) at ~ $15K total per year from us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curly McLain wrote: College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone I've been subscribed to Imprimis, their monthly bulletin, for years. Unfortunately, Hillsdale; like many small colleges; is expensive: around $70,000 per year which covers room, board, and everything. Of course, once a young person has a degree, they probably have a broader choice of high paying jobs than Ivy Leaguers since a large number of very wealthy industrialists and business people support the school and make sure grads have lots of choices. Gerry ... You are right. you pay to be brainwashed and become a good little liberal/socialist/marxist borg. then you you follow the collective, you stay an indentured servant for life. OR: You can send them to hillsdale college. They allow thinking and teach the constitution there. Very sub versiv e! Counter culture! In my day, there was still some open discussion and free thought allowed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10252 - Release Date: 07/17/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On July 17, 2015 at 9:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The boy has said he will drive his car for the duration until we can find another W140 rather than going up to a W210. He even agrees that an S320 would be ideal due to mileage and fuel consumption. While I don’t think it will be that much better than the M119 based on what I’ve heard from S320 owners, it’s an improvement for sure. Does he need a roomy back seat? A lot of the S320s are SWB. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much money. Sent from my iPhone You are right. you pay to be brainwashed and become a good little liberal/socialist/marxist borg. then you you follow the collective, you stay an indentured servant for life. OR: You can send them to hillsdale college. They allow thinking and teach the constitution there. Very sub versiv e! Counter culture! In my day, there was still some open discussion and free thought allowed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wish you were closer, I would probably buy it Sent from my iPhone Just drive it home form your next cruise outta Mimi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bingo. Devil you know vs. devil you don't. However, Dan has pointed out other good reasons for changing cars (fuel consumption, safety, inspiration). - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Would you be willing to pay $2000 for another car that had those repairs done, and was as well sorted out as what that one is? You buy another car and there will be mysteries. Most of those mysteries you have already found on the car you have. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The boy has said he will drive his car for the duration until we can find another W140 rather than going up to a W210. He even agrees that an S320 would be ideal due to mileage and fuel consumption. While I don’t think it will be that much better than the M119 based on what I’ve heard from S320 owners, it’s an improvement for sure. There’s a nice one in St. Pete that just came up on CL today that I may go look at tomorrow. Also, by sticking with a W140 we can swap some things over to a “new” car before getting rid of the coupe. Dan On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Bingo. Devil you know vs. devil you don't. However, Dan has pointed out other good reasons for changing cars (fuel consumption, safety, inspiration). - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Would you be willing to pay $2000 for another car that had those repairs done, and was as well sorted out as what that one is? You buy another car and there will be mysteries. Most of those mysteries you have already found on the car you have. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Florida = no fault state. Insurance companies settle up with the insured, then go after the other driver if they think they can recover. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male. Nice! Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try to get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das which is much more useful on a 210 than a 140 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: We get about 26 with our e430 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage? Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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98 has the newer engines. 99 had new much better radio and side curtain air bags. 00 or 01 is facelift models that have different trim tail lights and steering wheel controls Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Agreed. Newer = better for sure. Thanks for pointing out the break between 97 and 98. Not a lot in the wiki or forums on BW about that. The boy is busy catching up on school work and I have an HOA meeting in about 30 minutes, but I’ll have a chat with him later tonight and see what he thinks. He certainly won’t look a gift horse in the mouth no matter what, but I would prefer for him to have some input into what he drives, as he’ll be more into it if he has some choice. Otherwise I would put him in a Ford Focus until he’s out of college…. grin Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try to get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das which is much more useful on a 210 than a 140 Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a silverish 140 for sale up the road, was put out at the end of a guy's driveway a coupla days ago. It looks pretty nice on a drive-by. I think it is the same guy who had a white one a coupla years ago for sale. I have driven by but have not looked at it. I could do that, see what it is like, how much he wants for it. He might be a flipper or something, I don't know but i can look if you want. --R On 7/16/15 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:46:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. What does the Jeep owner's insurance company say? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Double ouch! 'Glad nobody hurt. Remind me - is that a 140? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Please do. You've done well by me once, maybe you can make it two times... Thank you! To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:08 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: There is a silverish 140 for sale up the road, was put out at the end of a guy's driveway a coupla days ago. It looks pretty nice on a drive-by. I think it is the same guy who had a white one a coupla years ago for sale. I have driven by but have not looked at it. I could do that, see what it is like, how much he wants for it. He might be a flipper or something, I don't know but i can look if you want. --R On 7/16/15 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, it's a W140 coupe (1995). Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:19 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Double ouch! 'Glad nobody hurt. Remind me - is that a 140? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 10:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Doesn't matter. Florida is a no-fault state, and he hit them in the rear, which effectively makes him responsible. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:46:05 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. What does the Jeep owner's insurance company say? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OR - road trip! How far from FL to OK? Is the car drivable? Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home. RB On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in. The cost for fuel, and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do appreciate the suggestion. If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't sacrifice the time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OR - road trip! How far from FL to OK? Is the car drivable? Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home. RB On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male. Nice! Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Google says Miami to Tulsa is 1445 miles so round trip is pretty close to 3000 miles. At 20 mpg, that is about 150 gallons of fuel. I don't know about you, but I am getting to the stage in my life where I have no plans to drive a thousand miles a day so it would take some days. Even with 2 or 3 drivers it would take a lot of time. RB On 16/07/2015 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in. The cost for fuel, and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do appreciate the suggestion. If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't sacrifice the time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OR - road trip! How far from FL to OK? Is the car drivable? Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home. RB On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would have to check, but I think everything ahead of the A pillar is the same between the coupe and sedan. I'll be looking into that this afternoon. Thanks, Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Shipping would be costly and I am not really setup to do large shipping anymore. Is this the coupe you are talking about? If so I don't have the parts I don't think. I have sedan parts. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Shipping would be costly and I am not really setup to do large shipping anymore. Is this the coupe you are talking about? If so I don't have the parts I don't think. I have sedan parts. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I live in Tampa, but it's still a haul, roughly 1300 miles according to the Google. Agree with the other points. I'm not interested in a road trip unless it's for a replacement, and a darned good one at that. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Google says Miami to Tulsa is 1445 miles so round trip is pretty close to 3000 miles. At 20 mpg, that is about 150 gallons of fuel. I don't know about you, but I am getting to the stage in my life where I have no plans to drive a thousand miles a day so it would take some days. Even with 2 or 3 drivers it would take a lot of time. RB On 16/07/2015 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: This is where the economics as well as logistics kick in. The cost for fuel, and more importantly, time, would make it prohibitive, although I do appreciate the suggestion. If Kaleb were closer it might make sense, but between having to take PTO at work and the boy being in summer session at the university we just couldn't sacrifice the time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: OR - road trip! How far from FL to OK? Is the car drivable? Run it up there and swap the parts onto it and drive it home. RB On 16/07/2015 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: How much for them plus shipping to 33596? Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Too bad you are not here, I have all those parts Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Florida = no fault state. Insurance companies settle up with the insured, then go after the other driver if they think they can recover. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So the po lice/insco will say it is his fault for being young and male. Nice! Youngest son calls this morning. Not usually a good thing at this hour. Had a Jeep Cherokee cut in front of him, he hit the brakes but still ended up hitting them with the front left corner of the car. Jeep bumper smashed headlight, crumpled hood and fender, no other damage and car is definitely drivable. That's why we drive these cars, guys. Boy is perfectly fine, but understandably bummed/pissed. Poop. So now I am faced with the following for a $3,000.00 car with a salvage title: 1.) Find a hood, fender and headlight. Headlight is easy, not sure about hood and fender. Gotta call a local recycler to see if they can find anything and how much it would be. 2.) Beat the panels out, replace the headlight and turn indicator and let him drive it like that. 3.) Retire the car and find something else. So, anyone know of a decent W140 or maybe an E class, something of that sort? How's about a W140 that someone is parting out? #2 will probably take place in the interim anyway, just so he has wheels. I've never sourced body parts before, but I'm thinking that something as big as a hood is going to be expensive if it's got to be shipped. Dang it. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That’s an option. Sticking with a W140 is best since everything I have around here is mostly W140 stuff. However, I was thinking about an E class, which I mentioned in my original post. Just don’t know a lot about them. Thanks, Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would be looking at a 210 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, but it’s gone. He’s not a diesel driver, either. I wouldn’t put him in one unless he was willing. A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them. Thanks, Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or something like that? To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That’s an option. Sticking with a W140 is best since everything I have around here is mostly W140 stuff. However, I was thinking about an E class, which I mentioned in my original post. Just don’t know a lot about them. Thanks, Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I would be looking at a 210 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, but it’s gone. He’s not a diesel driver, either. I wouldn’t put him in one unless he was willing. A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them. Thanks, Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or something like that? To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or something like that? To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would be looking at a 210 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, but it’s gone. He’s not a diesel driver, either. I wouldn’t put him in one unless he was willing. A few nice S320s just came up on CL here, so I’m going to look into them. Thanks, Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wasn't there a nice green W124/OM606 on Benzworld recently in Ann Arbor or something like that? To be honest, I don't think it's going to make a lot of sense to put any money into this car at this point. It pains me to say that, but the economics probably bear out just getting another car. Ideally I would like to get him in something a little more economical like a six cylinder since he's commuting to school this coming year. That's why I mentioned an E class. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Photos of the victims and their injuries: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/psuhragtdbv8e6b/AAA1mWR_7ulHa0AAgQDP9noUa?dl=0 I was able to extract the headlight assembly and straighten out the little portion of the radiator support that is forward of the oval opening in the support back to pretty much original position. At this point I’ll source a replacement headlight to get him mobile and we’ll go from there. If things had gone back another inch we would have lost AC and one or both of the ignition coils. The boy is living right… Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What about the nearest junk yards? Or call LKQ: 301 428-8239 car-part.com is your friend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 97 still had the 119. 98 up is 113 v8. The 6 cylinder 112 is identical just 2 less holes Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s? There are some pretty nice ones for sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html New Tampa = new money http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s? There are some pretty nice ones for sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html New Tampa = new money http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage? Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Agreed. Newer = better for sure. Thanks for pointing out the break between 97 and 98. Not a lot in the wiki or forums on BW about that. The boy is busy catching up on school work and I have an HOA meeting in about 30 minutes, but I’ll have a chat with him later tonight and see what he thinks. He certainly won’t look a gift horse in the mouth no matter what, but I would prefer for him to have some input into what he drives, as he’ll be more into it if he has some choice. Otherwise I would put him in a Ford Focus until he’s out of college…. grin Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just go drive one and see what you think. The newer the better. I would try to get a 98 or up. 97 down still uses 104 and 119. You already have das which is much more useful on a 210 than a 140 Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh and the v8 will get about the same mileage as the v6 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that what’s in the 8 cylinder W210s? There are some pretty nice ones for sale in the area, but I don’t have a feel for prices yet: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5099166133.html New Tampa = new money http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5120792376.html Salvage title doesn’t concern me based on the description. Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We get about 26 with our e430 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn’t you say the W210s are pretty decent on gas mileage? Dan On Jul 16, 2015, at 5:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well you already have a 113 motor so you got that covered already. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
