Re: [MBZ] Speedo no a go go

2005-12-19 Thread Marshall Booth

Tom Scordato wrote:

1977 300D, 123 chassis

Spent the last 4 hours trying to remove the speedo cable where it stabs into 
the tranny off take.  The cross wise hold down bolt is loose all the way. 
Car was up on pule up ramps and my big foot style body had trouble fitting 
in the work area.


Problem was the speed o cable would rotate about 180 degrees but would not 
pull out of tranny take off.  Granted I did not have alot of room to really 
tug on it and was working left handed.


Anyone have this problem?  Seems about 60K miles ago when I did this job the 
old speed o cable came out prety easy.  Can these thing sease in the tranny 
off take?


Loosening the speedometer cable bolt doesn't cut it. You must REMOVE the 
bolt before the cable on my cars can be removed. There's a groove that 
prevents the cable coming out with the bolt in place.


Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 
turbo 237kmi




Re: [MBZ] Speedo no a go go

2005-12-19 Thread Steve & Marci
You did pull the bolt all the way out, right?  The cable will not come out 
with the bolt in place.



Regards
Steve
"85" Euro 240D, 5 spd manual, 110K
"79" 240D, 5 spd manual, 20K on eng rebuild
"94" Dodge/Cummins, 100K
"82" TD project wagon
"64" VW Bug
"65" D15, AC tractor


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1977 300D, 123 chassis

Spent the last 4 hours trying to remove the speedo cable where it stabs 
into the tranny off take.  The cross wise hold down bolt is loose all the 
way. Car was up on pule up ramps and my big foot style body had trouble 
fitting in the work area.


Problem was the speed o cable would rotate about 180 degrees but would not 
pull out of tranny take off.  Granted I did not have alot of room to really 
tug on it and was working left handed.


Anyone have this problem?  Seems about 60K miles ago when I did this job 
the old speed o cable came out prety easy.  Can these thing sease in the 
tranny off take?


Please anyones war stories for help.

Regards
Tom Scordato Bellefonte Pa
1977 300D 263K
1970 240D 76 K miles







Re: [MBZ] Speedo no a go go

2005-12-18 Thread Tom Scordato

1977 300D, 123 chassis

Spent the last 4 hours trying to remove the speedo cable where it stabs into 
the tranny off take.  The cross wise hold down bolt is loose all the way. 
Car was up on pule up ramps and my big foot style body had trouble fitting 
in the work area.


Problem was the speed o cable would rotate about 180 degrees but would not 
pull out of tranny take off.  Granted I did not have alot of room to really 
tug on it and was working left handed.


Anyone have this problem?  Seems about 60K miles ago when I did this job the 
old speed o cable came out prety easy.  Can these thing sease in the tranny 
off take?


Please anyones war stories for help.

Regards
Tom Scordato Bellefonte Pa
1977 300D 263K
1970 240D 76 K miles 






Re: [MBZ] Speedo No a go go

2005-11-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 09:26:51 -0600 Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My experience is that a cable will make noise or cause the speedometer
> to jump a _lot_ before it quits altgether.
> 
> So I'd check both end and make sure it didn't just become disconnected.

I had a Dodge Dart in Colorado whose speedometer stopped working when I
drove through deep snow to get to work. It turned out the speedometer
cable was sheared off at the transmission.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Speedo No a go go/

2005-11-25 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 11/25/2005 7:57:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

car is a  1977 300D.  Been about 50k miles a little over a year since I 
changed  out speedo cable.

Got in car this morn and going down road noticed  nothing happened.  No 
speed, no trip odometer (tried zeroing in)  movement, no main mileage 
odometer movement.  This was right after  starting the vehicle.  We had a 
wicked yankee clipper come  through  yesterday so I figured maybe things 
froze up.  Got the  cabin nice and toasty and ran the piss out of the car on 
the express way  for about 15 miles.  No go.

Symptoms seem to indicate speedo  cable.  Do they only last 50k miles.  Last 
time I did the cable  I had the odometer sent off to have serviced.  Any 
thoughts  please.



Tom.
 
I think you can expect the speedo cable to last about 100,000 miles if it  is 
properly installed with no kinks, etc.
 
Several of us have experienced failure of the first drive gear, just inside  
the speedometer head.  This is usually preceded by a squalling noise, not  
unlike a failing drive cable.  This gear is part of the calibration of  the 
speedo with the axle ratio on my 79, so must be replaced with the same exact  
gear 
to retain an accurate speedometer.  I got mine out of  a wreck at  Upull .
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 138 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Speedo No a go go

2005-11-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Symptoms seem to indicate speedo cable.  Do they only last 50k miles.  
Last

time I did the cable I had the odometer sent off to have serviced.  Any
thoughts please.


Cable _could_ have snapped, but shouldn't have.  If it were routed wrong
the life could have been dramatically shortened.  If the head froze up
it could have broken the cable too.  First you're going to have to 
unhook
the cable to see if it's still spinning, then you've got to make sure 
the
head is free.  With all three instruments out, it's unlikely to be 
within

the head itself, other than a freeze-up of the main sleeve bearing.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Speedo No a go go

2005-11-25 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Tom wrote:

> car is a 1977 300D.  Been about 50k miles a little over a year since I 
> changed out speedo cable.
> 
> Got in car this morn and going down road noticed nothing happened.  No 
> speed, no trip odometer (tried zeroing in) movement, no main mileage 
> odometer movement.  This was right after starting the vehicle.  We had a 
> wicked yankee clipper come through  yesterday so I figured maybe things 
> froze up.  Got the cabin nice and toasty and ran the piss out of the car on 
> the express way for about 15 miles.  No go.
> 
> Symptoms seem to indicate speedo cable.  Do they only last 50k miles.  Last 
> time I did the cable I had the odometer sent off to have serviced.  Any 
> thoughts please.

My experience is that a cable will make noise or cause the speedometer
to jump a _lot_ before it quits altgether.

So I'd check both end and make sure it didn't just become disconnected. 

  Philip, do the easy stuff first!