Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-17 Thread clay via Mercedes
Imma think that portable is related to being able to have a number of spots 
with big old bolts in the cement you can swap it around to.  No hydraulics 
buried in the flooring or pits.  Pour a thick old slab with honking long lag 
bolts and you can bypass the idiots at the counter of local planning office who 
will get all up in your biddness over plans for more permanent lifts

clay

On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

 Curt, et al.Portable was the word that gave me the creeps. How many people 
 will buy this product and not anchor it properly?How many people will see 
 portable and reposition it in haste away from the anchors? My view is that it 
 is a recipe for disaster.
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:09:26 +
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 What about the great big bolts attaching it to the floor? Zoom in on the 
 picture, they're pretty clear. ;)
 -Curt
 
 
  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
 
 Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of 
 the car and good night!
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-17 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I would guess 1/8 inch. 
Are you really installing a lift?!

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What's the thinnest masonry drill bit that could be used to drill a test
 hole in my garage floor?
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Ultrasonic measurement
 
 Surely someone in DC has sonar...
 
 
 
 
 On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
 a
 
 test hole?
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's the thinnest masonry drill bit that could be used to drill a test
hole in my garage floor?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Ultrasonic measurement

 Surely someone in DC has sonar...




 On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
 a

  test hole?



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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-17 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Just needs to be 4 inches of useful length.  Bigger hole will be easier to fill 
with ready-mix concrete.  
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 17, 2015 1:22:37 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
What's the thinnest masonry drill bit that could be used to drill a
test
hole in my garage floor?



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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Actually more reading on the reviews shows it requires bolts in the 
floor to hold the posts, which sorta defeats the purpose of having 
portable lifts, though I suppose if you unbolt them and move them they 
would be OK.  Would have to put nuts or something in the floor though so 
no studs sticking up to punch tires.  And there are requirements for 
floor thickness and concrete strength, which I would be concerned about 
unless I poured proper footings for it.  It seems useful though for a 
regular garage, you can get the car lifted up to 4ft (or until it hits 
the ceiling I guess) which gives some good room for a lot of jobs though 
you would still be kinda hunched over or on a creeper.  I see used lifts 
for about $2k or less on CL occasionally, but they are the high-lift 
ones so you would need a high ceiling for them.


--R


On 2/16/15 2:35 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

--R


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
 --R
  
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Magic. Sheer magic.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
 B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

--R


For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with 
the bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete 
under it with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into 
your 3 slab and put in a few blue screws.


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Curt, et al.Portable was the word that gave me the creeps. How many people 
will buy this product and not anchor it properly?How many people will see 
portable and reposition it in haste away from the anchors? My view is that it 
is a recipe for disaster.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:09:26 +
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 What about the great big bolts attaching it to the floor? Zoom in on the 
 picture, they're pretty clear. ;)
 -Curt
 
 
   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

 Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of 
 the car and good night!
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
What about the great big bolts attaching it to the floor? Zoom in on the 
picture, they're pretty clear. ;)
-Curt


  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.



 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
 --R
                         
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
 B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

 --R


 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
 bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
 with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3 slab and
 put in a few blue screws.


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
easy.

The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill hole
and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL orientation..
I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused to
dig into the floor.

Other than that, I want one badly.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The manufacturer has made a video...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

 -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
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  To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

 If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
 videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
 bolt to the floor part.

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
  http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
  B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
  --R
 
 
  For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
  bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
  with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3 slab
 and
  put in a few blue screws.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I don't think you need a thick slab for a four post.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'm sure you could pay a professional to install it.
 
 I'm also tempted.  I have a very high ceiling in my garage, but the garage 
 doors hang low.  If I changed my garage doors, I could probably install a 
 full-size lift, but I'd probably also have to do some concrete work, not sure 
 of thickness of my garage floor pad.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On February 16, 2015 7:09:42 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
 easy.
 
 The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill
 hole
 and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL
 orientation..
 I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused
 to
 dig into the floor.
 
 Other than that, I want one badly.
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The manufacturer has made a video...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M
 
 -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
 
 If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share
 with
 videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on
 the
 bolt to the floor part.
 
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
 B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
 --R
 
 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with
 the
 bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete
 under it
 with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3
 slab
 and
 put in a few blue screws.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com 
wrote:
How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
a
test hole?


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bet theres a service for that...
-Curt
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 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel
 astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
 a
 test hole?

I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
you. Now you just have to find one.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Use a masonry bit, they're really easy. The worst thing would be if you hit 
steel in the slab. Actually, not having steel in the slab would probably be bad 
too.
-Curt
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mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and easy.

The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill hole and 
pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL orientation..  I would 
probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused to dig into the 
floor.

Other than that, I want one badly.



On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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The manufacturer has made a video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

-CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
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If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
 B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

 --R


 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
 bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
 with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3 slab and
 put in a few blue screws.


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The manufacturer has made a video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

-CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
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 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
 B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

 --R


 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
 bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
 with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3 slab and
 put in a few blue screws.


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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Or just buy a four post. Safer, more practical as you can safely store cars 
underneath and use a bridge jack ( I think that's what it's called) if you want 
to do a repair with wheels off the ramp.

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On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
 http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
 --R
 
 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the bar 
 across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it with the 
 anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3 slab and put in a 
 few blue screws.
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
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 Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel
 astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
 a
 test hole?

I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
you. Now you just have to find one.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'm sure you could pay a professional to install it.

I'm also tempted.  I have a very high ceiling in my garage, but the garage 
doors hang low.  If I changed my garage doors, I could probably install a 
full-size lift, but I'd probably also have to do some concrete work, not sure 
of thickness of my garage floor pad.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 16, 2015 7:09:42 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
easy.

The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill
hole
and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL
orientation..
I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused
to
dig into the floor.

Other than that, I want one badly.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 The manufacturer has made a video...
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

 -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
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  To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

 If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share
with
 videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on
the
 bolt to the floor part.

 On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
 
  http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?EMID=
  B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
 
  --R
 
 
  For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with
the
  bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete
under it
  with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3
slab
 and
  put in a few blue screws.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:02:50 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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  I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
  concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
  you. Now you just have to find one.

 Bet theres a service for that...

There probably is, but I'm sure it would be much cheaper to drill a hole.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

2015-02-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Ultrasonic measurement

Surely someone in DC has sonar...




On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
a

 test hole?




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