Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Looking Wagon

2021-12-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The high miles are a deal-breaker oh, no matter how nice it looks

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> My daughters 07E350 4m wagon, very good condition with a bit fewer miles
> was that price
>
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> > Hmm. Price seems a little high.
> >
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> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/d/bonita-springs-mercedes-benz-e320-wagon/7420568389.html
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Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Looking Wagon

2021-12-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
My daughters 07E350 4m wagon, very good condition with a bit fewer miles was 
that price

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> On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> Hmm. Price seems a little high.
> 
> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/d/bonita-springs-mercedes-benz-e320-wagon/7420568389.html
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Re: [MBZ] Good or bad snake?

2021-11-25 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Hard to be sure from photo but I'd guess garter snake 
https://herpsofnc.org/eastern-garter-snake/ or less common ribbon snake 
https://herpsofnc.org/eastern-ribbon-snake/ , both non toxic.  

The toxic snakes in the US are the coral snakes and vipers, which include 
cotton mouth, copper head, and several rattle snakes.  Several harmless snakes 
resemble the coral snake but corral snakes have the distinctive "red-on-yellow 
kill a fellow" color pattern.  The vipers have a wide head and (of course) 
rattlers rattle, usually.
https://wildlifeinformer.com/venomous-snakes-in-the-united-states/




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Venomous 

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> Looks like a good snake to me.  There are very few poisonous snakes 
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Re: [MBZ] Good or bad snake?

2021-11-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Venomous 

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> Looks like a good snake to me.  There are very few poisonous snakes in North
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Re: [MBZ] Good or bad snake?

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I meant a garter snake

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021, 3:23 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Looks like an Oklahoma garden snake
>
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>> Looks like a good snake to me.  There are very few poisonous snakes in
>> North
>> America.
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Re: [MBZ] Good or bad snake?

2021-11-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Looks like an Oklahoma garden snake

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> Looks like a good snake to me.  There are very few poisonous snakes in
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Re: [MBZ] Good or bad snake?

2021-11-25 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Looks like a good snake to me.  There are very few poisonous snakes in North
America.

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Re: [MBZ] Doesn't look bad 1998 Mercedes-Benz sel 560,$2,000

2020-12-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Maybe he is a Tarheel

--FT

On 12/27/20 11:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

“The Lord is my North Carolina”?

Hood paint looks like it could be a little toasty.

-D


On Dec 27, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/112598750641399/?ref=search_code=undefined

1998 Mercedes-Benz sel 560
$2,000
Vehicles 
Listeda day agoinJacksonville, NC 

Message


   About This Vehicle

Driven 132,224 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Grey·Interior color: Yellow
Fuel type:Gasoline


   Seller's description

Runs good. Heat and air. Don't have time for to fix and spend money to do so. 
Title at hand. Willing to negotiate

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Re: [MBZ] Doesn't look bad 1998 Mercedes-Benz sel 560,$2,000

2020-12-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
“The Lord is my North Carolina”?

Hood paint looks like it could be a little toasty.

-D

> On Dec 27, 2020, at 11:50 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/112598750641399/?ref=search_code=undefined
> 
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz sel 560
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Listeda day agoinJacksonville, NC 
> 
> Message
> 
> 
>   About This Vehicle
> 
> Driven 132,224 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Grey·Interior color: Yellow
> Fuel type:Gasoline
> 
> 
>   Seller's description
> 
> Runs good. Heat and air. Don't have time for to fix and spend money to do so. 
> Title at hand. Willing to negotiate
> 
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Re: [MBZ] R350 with bad tranny $2k

2020-07-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would ask for the owner for the diagnosis.  See what he says.

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> If you are lucky could be 4matic transfer case.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 10:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 4matic, who knows what hell is in there but maybe could be fairly simple
> > fix
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/208675890430876
> >
> > 2006 Mercedes-Benz R-Class · R 350 Sport Wagon 4D
> > $2,000
> > Vehicles 
> > Dealership· Listed a week ago in Charlotte, NC
> > 
> > About This Vehicle…
> >
> >
> > Driven 165,000 miles
> > Automatic transmission
> > Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
> > Fuel type: Gasoline
> > 15.0 MPG city · 20.0 MPG highway · 17.0 MPG combined
> >
> >
> > Typical Features…
> >
> >   *
> > Moon Roof
> >   *
> > Navigation
> >   *
> > Alloy Wheels
> >   *
> > 4WD
> >   *
> >
> >
> > Seller's description…
> >
> > 2006 Mercedes Benz R350 only 165k clean title the transmission need to
> > fix or replace and I don’t have time to do it I sell this car with bad
> > transmission with very low price only $2000 please contact me on [hidden
> > information] for any questions thank you
> >
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Re: [MBZ] R350 with bad tranny $2k

2020-07-22 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
If you are lucky could be 4matic transfer case.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 10:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 4matic, who knows what hell is in there but maybe could be fairly simple
> fix
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/208675890430876
>
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz R-Class · R 350 Sport Wagon 4D
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Dealership· Listed a week ago in Charlotte, NC
> 
> About This Vehicle…
>
>
> Driven 165,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 15.0 MPG city · 20.0 MPG highway · 17.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Navigation
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 4WD
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> 2006 Mercedes Benz R350 only 165k clean title the transmission need to
> fix or replace and I don’t have time to do it I sell this car with bad
> transmission with very low price only $2000 please contact me on [hidden
> information] for any questions thank you
>
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Re: [MBZ] Not half bad CLK430 needs top hydraulics

2020-04-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Allan,

I'm not sure he sees a lot of W116 stuff, but it can’t hurt to ask. If he’s got 
the right color leather he can repair seat covers, too, so that’s an option as 
well.

His name is Craig and you can email him at: mscho...@sbcglobal.net

Tell him I sent you - I get nothing out of it other than the satisfaction of 
getting him more business. He’s done a great job for me over the years and I 
would love to see him be able to help more owners.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Who is your seat guy? I need the front seats and armrest recovered in my
> W116. Driver's seat has a broken spring also so it's soft on one
> side. I've never been sure who to look for to help with that.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Needs hydraulics. Cheap fix.
>> 
>> This is the kind of car you need to snag. Spend another grand on it and 
>> you’ve got a nice ride. A full set of rebuilt cylinders and locks are $800, 
>> my seat guy could probably get you refurbished covers for $200-$300.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240338633691473
>>> 
>>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 430 Cabriolet 2D
>>> $2,700
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Dealership· Listed a day ago in Dallas, GA 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 195,232 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
>>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>>> 15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
>>> Very good condition 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Typical Features…
>>> 
>>> *
>>>  Alloy Wheels
>>> *
>>>  ABS (4-Wheel)
>>> *
>>>  AM/FM Stereo
>>> *
>>>  Air Conditioning
>>> *
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> 2000 mercedes benz clk430 for sale Runs and drives very well Strong engine 
>>> and transmission Ac heat radio all work Convertible top does not work Clean 
>>> title in hand current emission 404:516:6006 Located at 3080 atlanta hwy 
>>> dallas ga 30132
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Not half bad CLK430 needs top hydraulics

2020-04-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Who is your seat guy? I need the front seats and armrest recovered in my
W116. Driver's seat has a broken spring also so it's soft on one
side. I've never been sure who to look for to help with that.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Needs hydraulics. Cheap fix.
>
> This is the kind of car you need to snag. Spend another grand on it and 
> you’ve got a nice ride. A full set of rebuilt cylinders and locks are $800, 
> my seat guy could probably get you refurbished covers for $200-$300.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240338633691473
>> 
>> 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 430 Cabriolet 2D
>> $2,700
>> Vehicles 
>> Dealership· Listed a day ago in Dallas, GA 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 195,232 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>> 15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
>> Very good condition 
>> 
>> 
>> Typical Features…
>> 
>> *
>>   Alloy Wheels
>> *
>>   ABS (4-Wheel)
>> *
>>   AM/FM Stereo
>> *
>>   Air Conditioning
>> *
>> 
>> 
>> Seller's description…
>> 
>> 2000 mercedes benz clk430 for sale Runs and drives very well Strong engine 
>> and transmission Ac heat radio all work Convertible top does not work Clean 
>> title in hand current emission 404:516:6006 Located at 3080 atlanta hwy 
>> dallas ga 30132
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Not half bad CLK430 needs top hydraulics

2020-04-24 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm thinking something like $2200 would be a reasonable offer 
considering those requirements, then settle for $2300


That would be a fun ride.

--FT

On 4/24/20 10:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Needs hydraulics. Cheap fix.

This is the kind of car you need to snag. Spend another grand on it and you’ve 
got a nice ride. A full set of rebuilt cylinders and locks are $800, my seat 
guy could probably get you refurbished covers for $200-$300.

-D


On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240338633691473

2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 430 Cabriolet 2D
$2,700
Vehicles 
Dealership· Listed a day ago in Dallas, GA 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 195,232 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
Very good condition 


Typical Features…

*
   Alloy Wheels
*
   ABS (4-Wheel)
*
   AM/FM Stereo
*
   Air Conditioning
*


Seller's description…

2000 mercedes benz clk430 for sale Runs and drives very well Strong engine and 
transmission Ac heat radio all work Convertible top does not work Clean title 
in hand current emission 404:516:6006 Located at 3080 atlanta hwy dallas ga 
30132

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Re: [MBZ] Not half bad CLK430 needs top hydraulics

2020-04-24 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Needs hydraulics. Cheap fix.

This is the kind of car you need to snag. Spend another grand on it and you’ve 
got a nice ride. A full set of rebuilt cylinders and locks are $800, my seat 
guy could probably get you refurbished covers for $200-$300.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240338633691473
> 
> 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 430 Cabriolet 2D
> $2,700
> Vehicles 
> Dealership· Listed a day ago in Dallas, GA 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 195,232 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 15.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
> Very good condition 
> 
> 
> Typical Features…
> 
> *
>   Alloy Wheels
> *
>   ABS (4-Wheel)
> *
>   AM/FM Stereo
> *
>   Air Conditioning
> *
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Apparently RR uses something Castrol made called “RR363”. The alternative is 
TRW PFM201 which appears to be identified as a mineral based oil.

In a quick Google search it appears that the older models used a DOT3 fluid for 
brakes and suspension systems that had castor oil added to it for lubricity.

-D

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> took it [Roller[ to his mech and I recall something about checking mineral 
>> oil in some system.
> 
> The 756 oil used in the SLS system is used in aircraft brakes.  Perhaps RR 
> uses similar?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> took it [Roller[ to his mech and I recall something about checking mineral 
> oil in some system.

The 756 oil used in the SLS system is used in aircraft brakes.  Perhaps RR uses 
similar?

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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That guy Hoovie bought a “cheap “ Roller for $80k or so. He took it to his mech 
and I recall something about checking mineral oil in some system. He did get it 
sorted and apparently it was working fairly well. A lot of the parts are BMW 
bits so it is possible to get them cheaper 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe there was something about them using (mineral?) oil in their 
> hydraulic systems, or something to that effect? I was thinking I had heard 
> about non-Rolls mechanics working on them and putting the wrong stuff in them 
> and doing some serious damage as a result.
> 
> I’m pretty sure I’ve spoken about how the first place I worked for in the 
> generator business was next to a Rolls Royce dealer in Zionsville, IN. It was 
> just a little hole in the wall place, but people drove or had their RRs 
> shipped in to have them worked on there. We would wander over during lunch if 
> the shop door was open and chat the guy up. He showed us a lot of neat stuff, 
> none of which I recall except that they paint marked every fastener to know 
> if it had been tampered with.
> 
> https://people.com/archive/for-rolls-royce-owners-across-america-all-roads-lead-to-zionsville-indiana-vol-31-no-15/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think I have told the story about my son the mechanic working on the 
>> brakes of an old Rolls before but will do it again.
>> 
>> I don't know or remember all of the details so forgive me if I am a bit 
>> vague.
>> 
>> This fellow had an old Rolls. Not sure of the vintage. Not ancient but old - 
>> maybe from the 50's.
>> 
>> The brakes were essentially non existent. He brought it to their shop 
>> because they did custom work on hotrods, race cars etc.
>> 
>> They looked at the brake system which was something quite unusual. If I 
>> recall, it had some sort of hydraulic booster driven off the back of the 
>> transmission. Parts were either unobtainium or silly expensive so they 
>> looked for alternatives.
>> 
>> They installed a brake booster out of a Chevrolet and that improved matters 
>> somewhat but not enough. This thing had massive drum brakes if I recall 
>> correctly and they started looking at the brake mechanism for clues as to 
>> why it did not work like they thought it should. Ultimately, they elected to 
>> reverse the shoes in the drums. I think they put the ones from the right 
>> side onto the left side etc. Totally backwards by anyone's book, but it 
>> worked reasonably well. I don't think they felt that the brakes had been put 
>> together wrong by previous mechanics.  My son still did not think the brakes 
>> were good on the car but the owner was happy as could be. He said they were 
>> much improved from the way it was when he brought it in and felt it was safe 
>> to drive it. I think he only used it in photo shoots for weddings or 
>> something like that so did not intend to drive it cross country.
>> 
>> If anyone is truly interested, I will ask him and either correct my guesses 
>> or add whatever detail he can provide. I know he should remember this well.
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I believe there was something about them using (mineral?) oil in their 
hydraulic systems, or something to that effect? I was thinking I had heard 
about non-Rolls mechanics working on them and putting the wrong stuff in them 
and doing some serious damage as a result.

I’m pretty sure I’ve spoken about how the first place I worked for in the 
generator business was next to a Rolls Royce dealer in Zionsville, IN. It was 
just a little hole in the wall place, but people drove or had their RRs shipped 
in to have them worked on there. We would wander over during lunch if the shop 
door was open and chat the guy up. He showed us a lot of neat stuff, none of 
which I recall except that they paint marked every fastener to know if it had 
been tampered with.

https://people.com/archive/for-rolls-royce-owners-across-america-all-roads-lead-to-zionsville-indiana-vol-31-no-15/

-D

> On Apr 14, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I have told the story about my son the mechanic working on the brakes 
> of an old Rolls before but will do it again.
> 
> I don't know or remember all of the details so forgive me if I am a bit vague.
> 
> This fellow had an old Rolls. Not sure of the vintage. Not ancient but old - 
> maybe from the 50's.
> 
> The brakes were essentially non existent. He brought it to their shop because 
> they did custom work on hotrods, race cars etc.
> 
> They looked at the brake system which was something quite unusual. If I 
> recall, it had some sort of hydraulic booster driven off the back of the 
> transmission. Parts were either unobtainium or silly expensive so they looked 
> for alternatives.
> 
> They installed a brake booster out of a Chevrolet and that improved matters 
> somewhat but not enough. This thing had massive drum brakes if I recall 
> correctly and they started looking at the brake mechanism for clues as to why 
> it did not work like they thought it should. Ultimately, they elected to 
> reverse the shoes in the drums. I think they put the ones from the right side 
> onto the left side etc. Totally backwards by anyone's book, but it worked 
> reasonably well. I don't think they felt that the brakes had been put 
> together wrong by previous mechanics.  My son still did not think the brakes 
> were good on the car but the owner was happy as could be. He said they were 
> much improved from the way it was when he brought it in and felt it was safe 
> to drive it. I think he only used it in photo shoots for weddings or 
> something like that so did not intend to drive it cross country.
> 
> If anyone is truly interested, I will ask him and either correct my guesses 
> or add whatever detail he can provide. I know he should remember this well.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I think I have told the story about my son the mechanic working on the 
brakes of an old Rolls before but will do it again.


I don't know or remember all of the details so forgive me if I am a bit 
vague.


This fellow had an old Rolls. Not sure of the vintage. Not ancient but 
old - maybe from the 50's.


The brakes were essentially non existent. He brought it to their shop 
because they did custom work on hotrods, race cars etc.


They looked at the brake system which was something quite unusual. If I 
recall, it had some sort of hydraulic booster driven off the back of the 
transmission. Parts were either unobtainium or silly expensive so they 
looked for alternatives.


They installed a brake booster out of a Chevrolet and that improved 
matters somewhat but not enough. This thing had massive drum brakes if I 
recall correctly and they started looking at the brake mechanism for 
clues as to why it did not work like they thought it should. Ultimately, 
they elected to reverse the shoes in the drums. I think they put the 
ones from the right side onto the left side etc. Totally backwards by 
anyone's book, but it worked reasonably well. I don't think they felt 
that the brakes had been put together wrong by previous mechanics.  My 
son still did not think the brakes were good on the car but the owner 
was happy as could be. He said they were much improved from the way it 
was when he brought it in and felt it was safe to drive it. I think he 
only used it in photo shoots for weddings or something like that so did 
not intend to drive it cross country.


If anyone is truly interested, I will ask him and either correct my 
guesses or add whatever detail he can provide. I know he should remember 
this well.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
When did you take in your Rolls in for a brake job quote, Grant?  Which
model/year?  What else are you keeping from us?

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Last brake job quote I got for a Rolls ran a bit over $8,500 with the
> caveat "We won't really know until we get it all opened up and order the
> parts." "It could run quite a bit more."
>
> Rolls Royce: If you have to ask what it will cost, you can't afford one...
> pretty much covers.
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:25 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds like a good challenge.  Re-brake the Roller, put the video up on
> > youtube, and you will be famous.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I highly doubt it or I would expect there would be something about it
> on
> > > the web somewhere. It’s a common weak point you hear people gripe about
> > any
> > > time Rolls Royce comes up, or so it seems. I have no idea what the deal
> > is
> > > unless there’s something really unusual or unique about the brakes. You
> > > would think they would be something designed and engineered for RR as
> > > opposed to an off the shelf solution like the major manufacturers use.
> > >
> > > I would be curious to know just for the heck of it. Anyone out there
> have
> > > any background on RR?
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > haha yeah that was my reaction too!  He kinda slides that in there.
> I
> > > wonder if some kind of retrofit is possible, pull some parts out of a
> 126
> > > or something and get it rolling... and stopping...
> > > >
> > > > --FT
> > > >
> > > > On 4/13/20 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >> Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about
> > pricing
> > > brake parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.
> > > >>
> > > >> A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.
> > > >>
> > > >> -D
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have a 350 to drop in!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Roller Silver Spur
> > > >>>
> > > >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680
> > > >>>
> > > >>> $5,000
> > > >>> Vehicles <
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/vehicles/>
> > > >>> Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL <
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> About This Vehicle…
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Driven 71,000 miles
> > > >>> Automatic transmission
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Seller's description…
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I
> > > have but haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair
> > brakes.
> > > Low miles. Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.
> > > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Last brake job quote I got for a Rolls ran a bit over $8,500 with the
caveat "We won't really know until we get it all opened up and order the
parts." "It could run quite a bit more."

Rolls Royce: If you have to ask what it will cost, you can't afford one...
pretty much covers.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:25 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a good challenge.  Re-brake the Roller, put the video up on
> youtube, and you will be famous.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I highly doubt it or I would expect there would be something about it on
> > the web somewhere. It’s a common weak point you hear people gripe about
> any
> > time Rolls Royce comes up, or so it seems. I have no idea what the deal
> is
> > unless there’s something really unusual or unique about the brakes. You
> > would think they would be something designed and engineered for RR as
> > opposed to an off the shelf solution like the major manufacturers use.
> >
> > I would be curious to know just for the heck of it. Anyone out there have
> > any background on RR?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> > > On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > haha yeah that was my reaction too!  He kinda slides that in there.  I
> > wonder if some kind of retrofit is possible, pull some parts out of a 126
> > or something and get it rolling... and stopping...
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 4/13/20 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > >> Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about
> pricing
> > brake parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.
> > >>
> > >> A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have a 350 to drop in!
> > >>>
> > >>> Roller Silver Spur
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680
> > >>>
> > >>> $5,000
> > >>> Vehicles <
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/vehicles/>
> > >>> Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL <
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> About This Vehicle…
> > >>>
> > >>> Driven 71,000 miles
> > >>> Automatic transmission
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Seller's description…
> > >>>
> > >>> In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I
> > have but haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair
> brakes.
> > Low miles. Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Blown hydraulics, bad wiring, bad paint 95 SL500

2020-04-13 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
You forgot "crappy photos".  :)

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> Other than that probably would be reasonable at half the price for some fun
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/646482702796745
>
> Mercedes Benz SL500
> $3,200
> Auto Parts
> 
> Listed 3 weeks ago in Anderson, SC
> 
>
>
>   Details
>   …
>
>   *
> Condition
> Used - Good
>
> 1995 Classic run good with low miles for the age. 134,000. You have to
> let the top up manually. It has a hard top and soft top. Need a paint
> job. It will drive any where
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds like a good challenge.  Re-brake the Roller, put the video up on
youtube, and you will be famous.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I highly doubt it or I would expect there would be something about it on
> the web somewhere. It’s a common weak point you hear people gripe about any
> time Rolls Royce comes up, or so it seems. I have no idea what the deal is
> unless there’s something really unusual or unique about the brakes. You
> would think they would be something designed and engineered for RR as
> opposed to an off the shelf solution like the major manufacturers use.
>
> I would be curious to know just for the heck of it. Anyone out there have
> any background on RR?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > haha yeah that was my reaction too!  He kinda slides that in there.  I
> wonder if some kind of retrofit is possible, pull some parts out of a 126
> or something and get it rolling... and stopping...
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 4/13/20 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about pricing
> brake parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.
> >>
> >> A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a 350 to drop in!
> >>>
> >>> Roller Silver Spur
> >>>
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680
> >>>
> >>> $5,000
> >>> Vehicles <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/vehicles/>
> >>> Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/108127182549256/>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> About This Vehicle…
> >>>
> >>> Driven 71,000 miles
> >>> Automatic transmission
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Seller's description…
> >>>
> >>> In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I
> have but haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair brakes.
> Low miles. Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I highly doubt it or I would expect there would be something about it on the 
web somewhere. It’s a common weak point you hear people gripe about any time 
Rolls Royce comes up, or so it seems. I have no idea what the deal is unless 
there’s something really unusual or unique about the brakes. You would think 
they would be something designed and engineered for RR as opposed to an off the 
shelf solution like the major manufacturers use. 

I would be curious to know just for the heck of it. Anyone out there have any 
background on RR?

-D


> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> haha yeah that was my reaction too!  He kinda slides that in there.  I wonder 
> if some kind of retrofit is possible, pull some parts out of a 126 or 
> something and get it rolling... and stopping...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/13/20 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about pricing 
>> brake parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.
>> 
>> A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a 350 to drop in!
>>> 
>>> Roller Silver Spur
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680
>>> 
>>> $5,000
>>> Vehicles 
>>> Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> About This Vehicle…
>>> 
>>> Driven 71,000 miles
>>> Automatic transmission
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Seller's description…
>>> 
>>> In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I have 
>>> but haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair brakes. Low 
>>> miles. Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-13 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
haha yeah that was my reaction too!  He kinda slides that in there.  I 
wonder if some kind of retrofit is possible, pull some parts out of a 
126 or something and get it rolling... and stopping...


--FT

On 4/13/20 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about pricing brake 
parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.

A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.

-D




On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have a 350 to drop in!

Roller Silver Spur

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680

$5,000
Vehicles 
Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 71,000 miles
Automatic transmission


Seller's description…

In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I have but 
haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair brakes. Low miles. 
Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.

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Re: [MBZ] OT how bad could this be

2020-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Oo! The “B” word with a Rolls Royce! Don’t even think about pricing brake 
parts for these cars of you have a weak heart.

A brake job on one of these can thousands of dollars.

-D



> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a 350 to drop in!
> 
> Roller Silver Spur
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/580872982525680
> 
> $5,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 2 days ago in Jacksonville, FL 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 71,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> In great condition but cannot start- needs fuel distributor which I have but 
> haven’t installed because I can’t find the part to repair brakes. Low miles. 
> Only 71k miles. Clean title in hand.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Back in the 70s when we had the “oil shortage” I had a friend who worked for 
BATX (I think it was called), company that owned a lot of tank cars and storage 
facilities and such. He told me they had zero capacity to store or move any 
more oil or refined products as all their tanks and tank cars were completely 
full, tankers sitting on sidings everywhere they could park them. Producers 
were holding product waiting for the prices to go up to where they could make 
huge profits, which eventually they did. 

It was the Jimmuh Cahtah MEOW (Moral Equivalent Of War) gas line alternating 
purchase days...  I miss him so much, he was the best president ever!

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Pretty soon there will be no more empty oil cars, as they will all be fully 
> laden and sitting on abandoned track spurs throughout the nation.  

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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Clay via Mercedes
The oil business is running out of places to hide the excess.  A bunch of 
refiners are closed or burnt down, so the flow to process it ain’t what it used 
to be.  Toss in 10% corn ethyl, so less processing need.  Electric cars need no 
oil.  Pretty soon there will be no more empty oil cars, as they will all be 
fully laden and sitting on abandoned track spurs throughout the nation.  

clay

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
> rainy day.
> 
> instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.

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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The hurricanes also took out a lot of the petro distribution and storage
infrastructure too.  For example, our FL panhandle petro came by barge.  So
we were shut down until docks rebuilt and intercoastal waterway restored.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Look what happened after the hurkins down Tejas and Weezeeanna ways

--FT

On 3/11/20 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> What would happen if someone took out 2 refineries? 

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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Look what happened after the hurkins down Tejas and Weezeeanna ways

--FT

On 3/11/20 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
What would happen if someone took out 2 refineries? 


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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Now if we could just find a source of helium…

The Saudis are really trying to slap Pootie’s bag. They’re clearly quite 
unhappy. Their economy is not in that great of shape, so dumping oil isn’t 
going to help.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> we've been over the saud clan for over a year.
> 
> Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
> Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler ran out 
> of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a national 
> defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress of cons is 
> dipping into the cookie jar.
> Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut butter 
> and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel in reserve?
> Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and transport 
> it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts down for 
> maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen if someone 
> took out 2 refineries?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:
>> Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that 
>> what they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the 
>> Pootie/Saudi spat.
>> 
>> I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of 
>> the Saudis.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There are plans in Congress to buy now for the SPR.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> we've been over the saud clan for over a year.
>
> Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
> Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler
> ran out of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a
> national defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress
> of cons is dipping into the cookie jar.
> Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut
> butter and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel
> in reserve?
> Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and
> transport it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts
> down for maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen
> if someone took out 2 refineries?
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:
> > Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least
> that what they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the
> Pootie/Saudi spat.
> >
> > I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output
> of the Saudis.
> >
> > -D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

we've been over the saud clan for over a year.

Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler 
ran out of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a 
national defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress 
of cons is dipping into the cookie jar.
Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut 
butter and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel 
in reserve?
Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and 
transport it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts 
down for maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen 
if someone took out 2 refineries?


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:

Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that what 
they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the Pootie/Saudi 
spat.

I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of the 
Saudis.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that what 
they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the Pootie/Saudi 
spat.

I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of the 
Saudis.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
> rainy day.
> 
> instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:36 AM:
>> The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
>> oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
>> in oil prices that has roiled world markets.
>> 
>> The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
>> the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
>> Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.
>> 
>> "In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
>> Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
>> from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
>> said in the announcement.
>> 
>> Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
>> new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
>> to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
>> *, March 9).
>> 
>> Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
>> to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
rainy day.


instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:36 AM:

The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
in oil prices that has roiled world markets.

The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.

"In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
said in the announcement.

Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
*, March 9).

Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin


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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
among woohoofloos and the little spat between the new Saud strong boy 
and Pootie and the cable "news" channels, our stock market is in gyrations


--FT

On 3/11/20 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No surprise, as the Saudis just dropped their shorts again to beat up on Russia.

Cheap benzine for everyone!

-D


On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
in oil prices that has roiled world markets.

The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.

"In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
said in the announcement.

Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
*, March 9).

Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
Salman this morning about the situation, the White House said.

"The sale was designed to raise revenue for SPR facility maintenance and
upgrades," Szymanski added. "Given current oil markets, this is not the
optimal time for the sale."

She added, "The Department continually monitors and evaluates global oil
markets and will provide updated information as market conditions change."

DOE first announced the sale in a news release at the end of last month.
Bids were due at 2 p.m. EDT today.

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill questioned the timing yesterday, fearing it would
add to the problem by putting more supply into an already saturated
market (*E
Daily *, March 10).

Established in the wake of the 1970s Middle East oil embargo, the SPR
contains 635 million barrels of crude oil.

Nearly half that supply, however, is scheduled for sale in the coming
decade because of congressional mandates.

Lawmakers have used the reserve to offset the cost of legislation like the
2015 highway bill or a health care research effort.
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

2020-03-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No surprise, as the Saudis just dropped their shorts again to beat up on Russia.

Cheap benzine for everyone!

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
> oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
> in oil prices that has roiled world markets.
> 
> The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
> the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
> Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.
> 
> "In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
> Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
> from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
> said in the announcement.
> 
> Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
> new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
> to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
> *, March 9).
> 
> Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
> to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
> Salman this morning about the situation, the White House said.
> 
> "The sale was designed to raise revenue for SPR facility maintenance and
> upgrades," Szymanski added. "Given current oil markets, this is not the
> optimal time for the sale."
> 
> She added, "The Department continually monitors and evaluates global oil
> markets and will provide updated information as market conditions change."
> 
> DOE first announced the sale in a news release at the end of last month.
> Bids were due at 2 p.m. EDT today.
> 
> Lawmakers on Capitol Hill questioned the timing yesterday, fearing it would
> add to the problem by putting more supply into an already saturated
> market (*E
> Daily *, March 10).
> 
> Established in the wake of the 1970s Middle East oil embargo, the SPR
> contains 635 million barrels of crude oil.
> 
> Nearly half that supply, however, is scheduled for sale in the coming
> decade because of congressional mandates.
> 
> Lawmakers have used the reserve to offset the cost of legislation like the
> 2015 highway bill or a health care research effort.
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Re: [MBZ] Not half bad, cheap enough 1974 Mercedes-Benz 240d

2020-01-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No not bad at all

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> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/599387307294572/
> 
> 1974 Mercedes-Benz 240d
> West Columbia, SC· 4 hours ago 
> ·
>  
> $1,500
> 
> * About This Vehicle
> 
> *
> o
> 
> o Driven 220,000 miles
> *
> o
> 
> o Automatic transmission
> *
> o
> 
> o Exterior color: White
> 
> Seller's Description
> 
> 1974 Mercedes 240d ,auto, diesel,red interior complete,diesel engine 
> ,complete trim outside,runs,but has brake problem,needs be towed, good 
> project for restoration, straight body $1500 o.b.o.,title in hand
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Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Deal

2019-10-13 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It looks nice but it is way overpriced. 116s especially gasser seem to have no 
value. Maybe that has changed. 

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Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Deal

2019-10-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Donald Snook needs that!
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>If you’re looking for a W116 driver project:
>
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Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Deal

2018-09-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah that would be a good deal if it is mechanically sound.  Not a big 
fan of the white but the blue is nice, maybe fix up whatever issues and 
respray in that light blue color.


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For something that’s looking for a decent R107 project:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/1980-mercedes-450sl/6706204406.html

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Re: [MBZ] Bad paint, bad engine

2018-04-07 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
About 50 miles. 
Kevin in Hillsboro

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Re: [MBZ] Bad paint, bad engine

2018-04-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
How far from Kevin in Hillsboro/Portland?

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Re: [MBZ] Bad paint, bad engine

2018-04-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I was hoping it would go down to $450

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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bad paint, bad engine

2018-04-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

US $1,450.00 starting bid

Wayy outta your league

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Right up my alley, who is close?


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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That and the pipe had to come out.  There was no possible way they could have 
gotten all the way around the cat to weld the seam with it in frame.

I’m still ahead of the game as far as I’m concerned.  As much as I don’t care 
for that car, it’s been one of the most trouble free MBs I’ve ever owned.

-D


> On Sep 21, 2017, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Well, you got a point there.
> 
> 
> On 9/21/2017 5:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> You didn't have a bunch of "muffler sealer" over the crack that had to be
>> ground off before they could weld it . . .
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Well, you got a point there.


On 9/21/2017 5:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

You didn't have a bunch of "muffler sealer" over the crack that had to be
ground off before they could weld it . . .

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No, I drive down to muffler shop, they put on lift, drop exhaust or
whatever and weld, I hand them $50 or less and drive off.

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If you have a lift and a welder.

For all the work I do on my cars and the money I save by doing it, I

don’t have a problem paying for stuff I can’t or don’t want to do.

This is the only cost I’ve had on this car for over a year outside of

maintenance items.  Tough to complain over $200.

-D



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Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.

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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You didn't have a bunch of "muffler sealer" over the crack that had to be
ground off before they could weld it . . .

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> No, I drive down to muffler shop, they put on lift, drop exhaust or
> whatever and weld, I hand them $50 or less and drive off.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you have a lift and a welder.
> >
> > For all the work I do on my cars and the money I save by doing it, I
> don’t have a problem paying for stuff I can’t or don’t want to do.
> >
> > This is the only cost I’ve had on this car for over a year outside of
> maintenance items.  Tough to complain over $200.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A number of years ago now, I had an 86 Chevy Suburban. The exhaust pipe 
would crack on the Y pipe where the 2 parts joined  and I would drop 
into the local Minute Muffler shop. They would put it on the hoist and 
weld it in place and charge me $8.
It would last a year or two and then I would get them to do it again. A 
bargain then and now.


RB

On 21/09/2017 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

No, I drive down to muffler shop, they put on lift, drop exhaust or whatever 
and weld, I hand them $50 or less and drive off.

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

If you have a lift and a welder.

For all the work I do on my cars and the money I save by doing it, I don’t have 
a problem paying for stuff I can’t or don’t want to do.

This is the only cost I’ve had on this car for over a year outside of 
maintenance items.  Tough to complain over $200.

-D



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Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.

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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
No, I drive down to muffler shop, they put on lift, drop exhaust or whatever 
and weld, I hand them $50 or less and drive off. 

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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you have a lift and a welder.
> 
> For all the work I do on my cars and the money I save by doing it, I don’t 
> have a problem paying for stuff I can’t or don’t want to do.
> 
> This is the only cost I’ve had on this car for over a year outside of 
> maintenance items.  Tough to complain over $200.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you have a lift and a welder.

For all the work I do on my cars and the money I save by doing it, I don’t have 
a problem paying for stuff I can’t or don’t want to do.

This is the only cost I’ve had on this car for over a year outside of 
maintenance items.  Tough to complain over $200.

-D


> On Sep 21, 2017, at 4:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Holy smokes, that repair he is about $40-50.

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> On Sep 21, 2017, at 2:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got a call from them.  Dropping the pipe, will weld up the cat and 
> reinstall.
> 
> $200.00
> 
> I’m happy.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a local shop that’s second generation.  They do custom muffler work as 
>> well as general repairs.
>> 
>> The chain places can be so hit or miss.  I know these guys and they’re very 
>> well reviewed in Angie’s List, Yelp and Google, too.  They did a really nice 
>> custom exhaust for a W140 owner I know in the area.
>> 
>> -D 
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Attaboy!

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just got a call from them.  Dropping the pipe, will weld up the cat and
> reinstall.
>
> $200.00
>
> I’m happy.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It’s a local shop that’s second generation.  They do custom muffler work
> as well as general repairs.
> >
> > The chain places can be so hit or miss.  I know these guys and they’re
> very well reviewed in Angie’s List, Yelp and Google, too.  They did a
> really nice custom exhaust for a W140 owner I know in the area.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just got a call from them.  Dropping the pipe, will weld up the cat and 
reinstall.

$200.00

I’m happy.

-D


> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s a local shop that’s second generation.  They do custom muffler work as 
> well as general repairs.
> 
> The chain places can be so hit or miss.  I know these guys and they’re very 
> well reviewed in Angie’s List, Yelp and Google, too.  They did a really nice 
> custom exhaust for a W140 owner I know in the area.
> 
> -D 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My tech is that way.  I lost my AC belt so he slapped on a slightly used
belt that was hanging around in his shop.  Charged me $5.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s a local shop that’s second generation.  They do custom muffler work
> as well as general repairs.
>
> The chain places can be so hit or miss.  I know these guys and they’re
> very well reviewed in Angie’s List, Yelp and Google, too.  They did a
> really nice custom exhaust for a W140 owner I know in the area.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > I've been told by my main tech that Meinicke has awesome welders.  Which
> shop did you go to?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > SL500 has gotten worse.  I was planning on taking the pipe off this
> weekend and heading over to the local muffler shop to have it welded, but
> it’s gotten too loud to be drivable for the spouse.
> >
> > Dropped it off this morning at the shop.  Waiting for them to open and
> give me a call.  I soaked all the fasteners with Kroil last weekend, which
> should help.  I’m hoping the can just drop the pipe and weld it up.  The
> replacement is like $300 from MB my cost.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s a local shop that’s second generation.  They do custom muffler work as 
well as general repairs.

The chain places can be so hit or miss.  I know these guys and they’re very 
well reviewed in Angie’s List, Yelp and Google, too.  They did a really nice 
custom exhaust for a W140 owner I know in the area.

-D 


> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I've been told by my main tech that Meinicke has awesome welders.  Which shop 
> did you go to?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> SL500 has gotten worse.  I was planning on taking the pipe off this weekend 
> and heading over to the local muffler shop to have it welded, but it’s gotten 
> too loud to be drivable for the spouse.
> 
> Dropped it off this morning at the shop.  Waiting for them to open and give 
> me a call.  I soaked all the fasteners with Kroil last weekend, which should 
> help.  I’m hoping the can just drop the pipe and weld it up.  The replacement 
> is like $300 from MB my cost.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] SL500 Sounding Bad*ss

2017-09-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've been told by my main tech that Meinicke has awesome welders.  Which
shop did you go to?

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> SL500 has gotten worse.  I was planning on taking the pipe off this
> weekend and heading over to the local muffler shop to have it welded, but
> it’s gotten too loud to be drivable for the spouse.
>
> Dropped it off this morning at the shop.  Waiting for them to open and
> give me a call.  I soaked all the fasteners with Kroil last weekend, which
> should help.  I’m hoping the can just drop the pipe and weld it up.  The
> replacement is like $300 from MB my cost.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Not a Bad Looking Deal...

2017-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Looks like a Filtercharger sticker on a factory airbox. 
You treat it the same as any other car, note ease of starting, smoothness of 
idle and startup smoke in your prepurchase inspection, and change the fluids 
and filters when you get home. 
(which is better than removing a behind the radiator snorkel and cone, then 
trying to source a proper airbox and associated plumbing)

Mitch

> On July 5, 2017 at 7:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> …except for the K air filter.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6197951892.html 
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Re: [MBZ] Crack and Bad Taste

2017-06-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Bitches and hoes

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
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> Ok, so its in great shape.  But, a CONTINENTAL KIT?
> 
> https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/6169294890.html
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Re: [MBZ] Crack and Bad Taste

2017-06-23 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
It's a boat fender for a land yacht!

-MMM-

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> damn I need me wunnathem for the 420SEL I am going to resurrect! That will
> be TOTALLY pimpin and will get me the price I want!
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 6/23/17 3:51 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
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>> Ok, so its in great shape.  But, a CONTINENTAL KIT?
>>
>> https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/6169294890.html
>>
>> Don Snook
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] Crack and Bad Taste

2017-06-23 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
damn I need me wunnathem for the 420SEL I am going to resurrect! That 
will be TOTALLY pimpin and will get me the price I want!


--FT


On 6/23/17 3:51 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, so its in great shape.  But, a CONTINENTAL KIT?

https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/6169294890.html

Don Snook
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--FT
Winston Churchill:
“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Germans are bad, very bad....Trumpo\

2017-05-29 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
And we continue to have a damned fool and "playground" bully for so-called 
president.


Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:28 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Germans are bad, very badTrumpo\




During a meeting Thursday with European Union officials in Brussels, Trump 
allegedly said, “The Germans are bad, very bad,” according to Germany’s 
Spiegel Online, which cited unnamed sources in the room. He continued, the 
outlet said, by saying: “See the millions of cars they are selling in the 
U.S.? Terrible. We will stop this.”...snip


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trumps-alleged-slight-against-germans-generates-confusion-backlash/2017/05/26/0325255a-4219-11e7-b29f-f40ffced2ddb_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_germany-855pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory_term=.b0578fc3cdb4


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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Bad lip reading

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's quite amazing technology - ir is it all human generated?

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I saw that yesterday, very funny stuff

 With Bernie and Hillary! it would all be like Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff,
 Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff  '

 --R




 On 8/21/15 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 Republican debate, NFL mic'ed.  All in good fun..

 I

 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/19/1413598/-Bad-Lip-Reading-takes-on-the-first-Republican-debate-and-it-may-be-the-best-thing-ever?detail=email?detail=email
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Bad lip reading

2015-08-21 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

I saw that yesterday, very funny stuff

With Bernie and Hillary! it would all be like Freesh..tuff, 
Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff, Freesh..tuff  '


--R



On 8/21/15 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Republican debate, NFL mic'ed.  All in good fun..

I
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/19/1413598/-Bad-Lip-Reading-takes-on-the-first-Republican-debate-and-it-may-be-the-best-thing-ever?detail=email?detail=email
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Bad lip reading

2015-08-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That is quite funny!
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, just what I wanted!
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 14, 2015 3:41:18 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:
 Max wrote:
 
 How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do
 you calibrate the laser pointer?

Trigonometry.  And the fact that the 123 manual has the
toe-in spec in degrees. *smiles*  But with a known tire
diameter and a toe-in length the angle can be calculated.

Regarding calibrating the level, I used a 10ft piece of
Unistrut that my eyeball determined was straight.  I measured
the height of the beam at the level and at 10 ft and figured
that was close enough.

I wrote up a page on my process in a file called
w123-toein-alignment_howto_screen.pdf

Find it at http://host-a.net/fmiser/


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Max wrote:
 
 How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do
 you calibrate the laser pointer?

Trigonometry.  And the fact that the 123 manual has the
toe-in spec in degrees. *smiles*  But with a known tire
diameter and a toe-in length the angle can be calculated.

Regarding calibrating the level, I used a 10ft piece of
Unistrut that my eyeball determined was straight.  I measured
the height of the beam at the level and at 10 ft and figured
that was close enough.

I wrote up a page on my process in a file called
w123-toein-alignment_howto_screen.pdf

Find it at http://host-a.net/fmiser/


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-13 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Meade wrote:
 
 Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today,
 depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with
 string around the perimeter of the car, then measure /
 adjust the toe-in.  Another way would be to make two
 parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and
 measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift
 for this work.

On my 123s and my domestics I use a laser level against the
front rim pointing to a cardboard target attached to the back
rim.  It has worked well for my cars for years now.


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do you calibrate the 
laser pointer?
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'95 E300

On August 13, 2015 8:31:56 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

On my 123s and my domestics I use a laser level against the
front rim pointing to a cardboard target attached to the back
rim.  It has worked well for my cars for years now.


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do you 
calibrate the laser pointer?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300


Trigonometry.  Length of the long leg of a tringle, Length of the 
short leg, angle between the long leg and the hypotenuse.


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yabut how do you know the laser beam is parallel to the rim of the front wheel? 
 If the laser is not parallel, all that work means nothing.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On August 13, 2015 10:14:22 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
How do you measure toe-in that way?  In other words, how do you 
calibrate the laser pointer?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

Trigonometry.  Length of the long leg of a tringle, Length of the 
short leg, angle between the long leg and the hypotenuse.

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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-13 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On August 13, 2015 at 10:35 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Yabut how do you know the laser beam is parallel to the rim of the front
 wheel?  If the laser is not parallel, all that work means nothing.

Reminds me of a wheel alignment article I saw in a motorcycle magazine in the
1970s.
Tie a string around the front of the wheel, attach the other end to something
you can move around, like a jug of oil. 
When the string is just barely touching the back edge of the tire, it's parallel
to the tire. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
How do organic pads compare to ceramic?
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'95 E300

On August 7, 2015 10:06:33 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
If you want to go on the cheap with some organic pads, check out Rock
Auto. They have had some seriously good deals on close outs for brake
pads of late. I just picked up a set of domestic organic pads for the
98 S420 last week for $6.
D

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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime
warranty.

I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure
46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ.  Inner,
not so good.  The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up
into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on
it.

The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a
deep well is required.  I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a
spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there
is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut
pushes on).  Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge
flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy.  Poor little harbor
freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding
stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push
it.

I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and
adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at
about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming.

Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a
test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the
front pad(s) are low.  It was winking at first, went off while backing up,
but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the
left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't
find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the
disc might be contacting the sensor now.  I may pull the sensor connection
off at that pad and see if that clears the light.  Good excuse to install
Akebono ceramic pads.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

 Too late for that.  If I make a command decision and just get'er done,
 as
 long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness.

 Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just
 best to keep her totally in the loop.

 Plan B it is, until a better option comes along.

 Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the
 garage tonight.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC


 My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so
 long as I just did it.
 She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has sat
 in the garage since I had brake issues a while back.

 RB


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime
warranty.

I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure
46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ.  Inner,
not so good.  The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up
into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on
it.

The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a
deep well is required.  I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a
spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there
is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut
pushes on).  Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge
flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy.  Poor little harbor
freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding
stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push
it.

I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and
adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at
about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming.

Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a
test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the
front pad(s) are low.  It was winking at first, went off while backing up,
but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the
left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't
find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the
disc might be contacting the sensor now.  I may pull the sensor connection
off at that pad and see if that clears the light.  Good excuse to install
Akebono ceramic pads.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

 Too late for that.  If I make a command decision and just get'er done,
 as
 long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness.

 Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just
 best to keep her totally in the loop.

 Plan B it is, until a better option comes along.

 Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the
 garage tonight.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC


 My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so
 long as I just did it.
 She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has sat
 in the garage since I had brake issues a while back.

 RB


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

A 12 ton jack is a small tool.

RB

On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I 
think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except 
driving nails.
Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking 
tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you 
don't use small tools.
-Curt
   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball

joints, etc.  Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to
maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout.

TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of
the yoke while applying pressure.  I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH
and they popped right out.  Had to do this 2-3 times recently.

Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ.



I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I
gotten lucky.

This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and
I really like it.  Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's
holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of
torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and
the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits.

Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather)
I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the
car, then measure / adjust the toe-in.  Another way would be to make two
parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust.
Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


   I've never had the tool.  I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it
   with a short handle 2 pounder.  That is done from the bottom, so no
   clearance problems Clarence.

   If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are
   gone now, so I just use the LFH.

   You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper
   works better.  I've never made the homemade caliper.



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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
   
A 12 ton jack is a small tool.

RB



On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
 Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I 
 think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except 
 driving nails.
 Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking 
 tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you 
 don't use small tools.
 -Curt
        From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
  Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
    
 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball
 joints, etc.  Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to
 maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout.

 TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of
 the yoke while applying pressure.  I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH
 and they popped right out.  Had to do this 2-3 times recently.

 Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ.


 I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I
 gotten lucky.

 This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and
 I really like it.  Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's
 holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of
 torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and
 the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits.

 Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather)
 I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the
 car, then measure / adjust the toe-in.  Another way would be to make two
 parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust.
 Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

    I've never had the tool.  I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it
    with a short handle 2 pounder.  That is done from the bottom, so no
    clearance problems Clarence.

    If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are
    gone now, so I just use the LFH.

    You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade 
caliper
    works better.  I've never made the homemade caliper.


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I've never had the tool.  I just back the nut off to flush, then pop 
it with a short handle 2 pounder.  That is done from the bottom, so 
no clearance problems Clarence.


If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine 
are gone now, so I just use the LFH.


You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade 
caliper works better.  I've never made the homemade caliper.




New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime
warranty.

I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure
46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ.  Inner,
not so good.  The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up
into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on
it.

The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a
deep well is required.  I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a
spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there
is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut
pushes on).  Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge
flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy.  Poor little harbor
freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding
stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push
it.

I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and
adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at
about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming.

Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a
test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the
front pad(s) are low.  It was winking at first, went off while backing up,
but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the
left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't
find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the
disc might be contacting the sensor now.  I may pull the sensor connection
off at that pad and see if that clears the light.  Good excuse to install
Akebono ceramic pads.

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad



New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime
warranty.

I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure
46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ.  Inner,
not so good.  The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up
into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on
it.

The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a
deep well is required.  I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a
spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there
is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut
pushes on).  Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge
flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy.  Poor little harbor
freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course 
grinding

stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push
it.

I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and
adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at
about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming.

Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a
test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the
front pad(s) are low.  It was winking at first, went off while backing up,
but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the
left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't
find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the
disc might be contacting the sensor now.  I may pull the sensor connection
off at that pad and see if that clears the light.  Good excuse to install
Akebono ceramic pads.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


Too late for that.  If I make a command decision and just get'er done,
as
long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask 
forgiveness.


Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just
best to keep her totally in the loop.

Plan B it is, until a better option comes along.

Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the
garage tonight.

-
Max
Charleston SC


My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so

long as I just did it.
She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has 
sat

in the garage since I had brake issues a while back.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball 
joints, etc.   Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to 
maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout.


TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of 
the yoke while applying pressure.  I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH 
and they popped right out.  Had to do this 2-3 times recently.


Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ.



I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I
gotten lucky.

This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and
I really like it.  Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's
holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of
torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and
the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits.

Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather)
I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the
car, then measure / adjust the toe-in.  Another way would be to make two
parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust.
Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I've never had the tool.  I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it
 with a short handle 2 pounder.  That is done from the bottom, so no
 clearance problems Clarence.

 If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are
 gone now, so I just use the LFH.

 You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper
 works better.  I've never made the homemade caliper.



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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I 
think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except 
driving nails.
Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking 
tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you 
don't use small tools.
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
   
2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball 
joints, etc.  Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to 
maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout.

TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of 
the yoke while applying pressure.  I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH 
and they popped right out.  Had to do this 2-3 times recently.

Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ.


I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I
gotten lucky.

This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and
I really like it.  Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's
holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of
torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and
the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits.

Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather)
I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the
car, then measure / adjust the toe-in.  Another way would be to make two
parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust.
Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I've never had the tool.  I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it
  with a short handle 2 pounder.  That is done from the bottom, so no
  clearance problems Clarence.

  If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are
  gone now, so I just use the LFH.

  You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper
  works better.  I've never made the homemade caliper.


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Too late for that.  If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as
long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness.

Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just
best to keep her totally in the loop.

Plan B it is, until a better option comes along.

Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the
garage tonight.

-
Max
Charleston SC


My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so 
long as I just did it.
She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has 
sat in the garage since I had brake issues a while back.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Worked well for me in the Air Force; reasonably well at home, too - just a 
little harder to recover sometimes.  ;)


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad



Is it also easier to ask forgiveness than permission?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


No.  Italian.  I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 6, 2015 1:40:50 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later
date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: dillonm...@gmail.com

 (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)

 Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee
and the
 Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm
on Plan
 B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for
$55
 plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work
and
 see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the
used
 assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two
new
 tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and
install
 those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of
Plan B
 (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on
the
 sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
 installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B
parts
 on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show
Look
 honey, I saved us $15!.

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That'll buff right out

--R



On 8/5/15 11:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

The White Whale aka 1987 300TD has developed a knock in the front
suspension / steering over the last week or so.  Tonight I finally had a
look-see.

https://youtu.be/9Oxvp1oHF8E

I'm going have to fix that.  Soon!
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
This must have also been the cause of my high speed shimmy a couple months
back.

I also found that the front crank seal is leaking much worse now, so also
time for a new hub and seal.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That'll buff right out

 --R
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Did this get through?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 No. Italian. I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
 doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are you asking me personally?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Did this get through?

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC

 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

  No. Italian. I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
  doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '87 300TD
  '95 E300
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
(Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)

Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the
Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm on Plan
B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for $55
plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work and
see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the used
assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two new
tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and install
those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of Plan B
(get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on the
sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B parts
on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show Look
honey, I saved us $15!.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later date let 
you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
 (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)
 
 Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the
 Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm on Plan
 B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for $55
 plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work and
 see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the used
 assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two new
 tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and install
 those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of Plan B
 (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on the
 sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
 installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B parts
 on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show Look
 honey, I saved us $15!.
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
  
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Through what?FAIL!


Did this get through?

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Is it also easier to ask forgiveness than permission?

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 No.  Italian.  I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
 doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On August 6, 2015 1:40:50 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later
 date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
  Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
  (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)
 
  Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee
 and the
  Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm
 on Plan
  B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for
 $55
  plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work
 and
  see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the
 used
  assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two
 new
  tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and
 install
  those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of
 Plan B
  (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on
 the
  sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
  installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B
 parts
  on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show
 Look
  honey, I saved us $15!.
 
  -
  Max
  Charleston SC
 
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mitty.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 No.  Italian.  I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
 doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On August 6, 2015 1:40:50 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later
 date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
  Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
  (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)
 
  Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee
 and the
  Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm
 on Plan
  B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for
 $55
  plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work
 and
  see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the
 used
  assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two
 new
  tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and
 install
  those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of
 Plan B
  (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on
 the
  sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
  installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B
 parts
  on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show
 Look
  honey, I saved us $15!.
 
  -
  Max
  Charleston SC
 
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Too late for that.  If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as
long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness.

Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just
best to keep her totally in the loop.

Plan B it is, until a better option comes along.

Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the
garage tonight.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Is it also easier to ask forgiveness than permission?

 On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  No.  Italian.  I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that
  doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '87 300TD
  '95 E300
 
  On August 6, 2015 1:40:50 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later
  date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?
  
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
   Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
   To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
   From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
  
   (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)
  
   Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee
  and the
   Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm
  on Plan
   B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for
  $55
   plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work
  and
   see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the
  used
   assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two
  new
   tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and
  install
   those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of
  Plan B
   (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on
  the
   sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
   installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B
  parts
   on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show
  Look
   honey, I saved us $15!.
  
   -
   Max
   Charleston SC
  
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 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
No.  Italian.  I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that 
doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 6, 2015 1:40:50 PM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later
date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 CC: dillonm...@gmail.com
 
 (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior)
 
 Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee
and the
 Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm
on Plan
 B.  Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for
$55
 plus $10 shipping, and then swing by LKQ Knackers tonight after work
and
 see if I could scrounge a good used tie rod assembly.  Replace the
used
 assembly with the new at a later date TBD.  Plan B is to purchase two
new
 tie rod ends from local Autoparts warehouse (Moog) for $90 and
install
 those tonight after work.  Plan C is to execute the first part of
Plan B
 (get the new ends in hand), hold on to the receipt, execute Plan A on
the
 sly (but pay an extra $10 for overnight shipping) and delay the
 installation until Saturday p.m. or later, and then return the Plan B
parts
 on Monday.  Confess my modification of the plan after I can show
Look
 honey, I saved us $15!.
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
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Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
Dan, 
I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition - any 
landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. At least that's what 
I've always heard during my 40+ years of flying.   :-)
AT
CL500

From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day
Date: October 31, 2014 7:14:31 PM PDT
To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com

That'll buff out:
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-this-2-2m-p-51-mustang-make-a-gear-up-belly-land-1650184273
Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s what I was thinking….just didn’t recall the colloquialism correctly….

Dan


 On Nov 1, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dan, 
 I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition - any 
 landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. At least that's what 
 I've always heard during my 40+ years of flying.   :-)
 AT
 CL500
 
 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day
 Date: October 31, 2014 7:14:31 PM PDT
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 That'll buff out:
 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-this-2-2m-p-51-mustang-make-a-gear-up-belly-land-1650184273
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Flying Mustangs are now on the endangered species list . The price of
admission to that club comes high. I'm sure the owner is happy to be alive,
but wallet damaged at the injury to the airplane. I see some extensive
rebuilding in the airplanes future... But.. if you think 20 yr. old
Mercedes parts are hard to find and expensive... try picking up some NOS
Mustang hardware... ouch.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That’s what I was thinking….just didn’t recall the colloquialism
 correctly….

 Dan


  On Nov 1, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Dan,
  I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition -
 any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. At least
 that's what I've always heard during my 40+ years of flying.   :-)
  AT
  CL500
 
  From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
  Subject: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day
  Date: October 31, 2014 7:14:31 PM PDT
  To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  That'll buff out:
 
 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-this-2-2m-p-51-mustang-make-a-gear-up-belly-land-1650184273
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
And a great landing is one where you can use the airplane again.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
 Addison Thompson via Mercedes
 Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 11:45 AM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)
 
 Dan,
 I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition -
any
 landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. At least that's
what
 I've always heard during my 40+ years of flying.   :-)
 AT
 CL500
 
 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day
 Date: October 31, 2014 7:14:31 PM PDT
 To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 That'll buff out:
 http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-this-2-2m-p-51-mustang-make-a-
 gear-up-belly-land-1650184273
 Dan
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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Ummm, I can't see how this could be true. The speedo drive is in the 
transmission isn't it? The transmission doesn't care if both wheels are 
spinning or just one, it takes the same number of driveshaft revolutions either 
way.

The spider gears care...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:14:13 -0500
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations
Message-ID: 27e87fbb-09d1-43ef-bc0b-5056714a2...@email.android.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 
mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart...
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