Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-06-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Craig,

No opinion on brand, but seller-wise, have you checked the price at MB 
Northlake?  Lately they've been beating the Classic Center MBCA discount prices.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 31, 2015 9:27:12 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:


The flasher module has Mercedes part number 000 821 09 63.

I have found it at:

   - autohausAZ
   - Pelican Parts
   - Amazon
   - RMeuropean

I have the choice of manufacturers:

   - Kaehler (KAE) [autohausAZ and RMeuropean]
   - Wehrle [Pelican Parts, which says Wehrle is better than KAE]

Anyone have any opinions on manufacturer or vendor?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-06-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have boxes-ful of W123 electrical gizmos.  If someone just asks I might
look for what you need.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Craig,

 No opinion on brand, but seller-wise, have you checked the price at MB
 Northlake?  Lately they've been beating the Classic Center MBCA discount
 prices.
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300

 On May 31, 2015 9:27:12 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 
 The flasher module has Mercedes part number 000 821 09 63.
 
 I have found it at:
 
- autohausAZ
- Pelican Parts
- Amazon
- RMeuropean
 
 I have the choice of manufacturers:
 
- Kaehler (KAE) [autohausAZ and RMeuropean]
- Wehrle [Pelican Parts, which says Wehrle is better than KAE]
 
 Anyone have any opinions on manufacturer or vendor?
 
 
 Craig
 


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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-06-01 Thread Ben Bichon via Mercedes
try grounding each corner
we had a Ford that had issues
I put a new and extra ground on each corner of the car from body to the
ground on each lamp
no more issues but a bit quick and dirty.
On May 30, 2015 2:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 My driving to and from Albuquerque for class this summer has been
 complicated by turn signals not working when it is hot (they have
 worked just fine first thing in the morning when it is cool).

 I took the console apart, took out the flasher (which is electronic) and
 put Deoxit D100 contact cleaner on its socket pins and reinstalled.

 I then took the emergency flasher switch in the house and, with it mostly
 inside a Zip-Loc bag, disassembled it. It was dirty inside. I cleaned it
 up, put on Deoxit D100, reassembled it, and took it back to the car.

 The turn signals and emergency flasher functions seem more solid, but
 the real test will be when it's hot. I am going grocery shopping this
 afternoon (Shirley is unable since she fell and fractured her pelvis a
 month ago), so I should have a good test.

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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-05-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

The emergency flashers worked for awhile and then quit, too.


You replace the fuse lately?  A bit of deoxit on the fuse
contacts isn't a bad idea.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-05-31 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 31 May 2015 10:26:08 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  The emergency flashers worked for awhile and then quit, too.
 
 You replace the fuse lately?  A bit of deoxit on the fuse
 contacts isn't a bad idea.

I took this hint and found the fuse was good and the other things on the
same circuit (#1), the right-side tail and parking lights, worked just
fine. So I ran the emergency flashers until they quit and then
disassembled the console and pulled the cover off the flasher module. It
has a couple of transistors, a diode, a few resistors, and a relay. The
relay coil was hot enough to burn myself on.

One time, I saw a small wisp of smoke, but not enough to locate the
source. After turning it off and waiting a while, when I turned it back
on the relay operated normally. I never saw any more smoke.

When the relay would stop operating, I could press on the armature to
close the Normally Open contacts and the appropriate lights would come
on, so it's not a problem of dirty switch contacts or wiring problems.

I suspect that the resistance of the coil goes up enough when it's hot
that there isn't enough current flowing to pull the armature in.

The flasher module has Mercedes part number 000 821 09 63.

I have found it at:

- autohausAZ
- Pelican Parts
- Amazon
- RMeuropean

I have the choice of manufacturers:

- Kaehler (KAE) [autohausAZ and RMeuropean]
- Wehrle [Pelican Parts, which says Wehrle is better than KAE]

Anyone have any opinions on manufacturer or vendor?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-05-30 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Hope it holds.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Today's project



My driving to and from Albuquerque for class this summer has been
complicated by turn signals not working when it is hot (they have
worked just fine first thing in the morning when it is cool).

I took the console apart, took out the flasher (which is electronic) and
put Deoxit D100 contact cleaner on its socket pins and reinstalled.

I then took the emergency flasher switch in the house and, with it mostly
inside a Zip-Loc bag, disassembled it. It was dirty inside. I cleaned it
up, put on Deoxit D100, reassembled it, and took it back to the car.

The turn signals and emergency flasher functions seem more solid, but
the real test will be when it's hot. I am going grocery shopping this
afternoon (Shirley is unable since she fell and fractured her pelvis a
month ago), so I should have a good test.

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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-05-30 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sorry, it does not sounds like Shirley is having a run of good luck. Is
this incident #3 ???

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

  (Shirley is unable since she fell and fractured her pelvis a
 month ago)




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Re: [MBZ] Today's project

2015-05-30 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 30 May 2015 16:13:06 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 'Hope it holds.

Well, unfortunately, it did not.

Shirley wanted to go, so I got her and her wheelchair in the car and took
off for Smith's grocery at St. Michael's and Pacheco. It worked fine all
the way there and most of the way back. We stopped at the mailboxes,
picked up mail and drove ahead the short distance to our street. I put on
the turn signal and nothing ...

The emergency flashers worked for awhile and then quit, too.

Now I need to study for my class. Maybe next Saturday, maybe before.


Craig

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