Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Having my 190D's injectors cleaned and calibrated made a big difference in cold 
start performance. Now its got a persistent small diesel leak I have yet to 
track down. I think its loosing some of its prime, it starts but needs 
significant input from the go-pedal to stay running at first.
-Curt
  From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 12:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck
   
Over the last couple years my 300D has become reluctant to start at  
below zero temps.  one or two cylinders fire right up, and if the  
rest did like my old diesel did, it would take right off.

These days I have to keep cranking while it sputters and smokes,  
eventually starting and running poorly, but this was a -8,

Engine now has at least 400,000 miles on it, and I suspect I need to  
replace the pressure valve holder seals and probably need to check the  
injectors, it always runs rather rough at idle and the nozzles have at  
least 120,000 miles on them, possibly considerably more.

I think it would benefit from a new timing chain, too.

But it started and ran well at -8 with no block heater.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 05:32:19 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4
 wheel drive for the snow, Mercedes for safety. 

Now that you mention it, Mitch in Michigan has one of those.


 BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the
 last few years, isn't it? 

Yes.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There's a distinctive gap in decent MBs due to the Chrysler stuff.

Once you hit 2000, things go downhill rapidly for the most part. I'm amazed at 
the number of cheap S500s out there once you get to 2000.  These are to be 
avoided at all costs for a number of reasons...

Dan

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 On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 05:32:19 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4
 wheel drive for the snow, Mercedes for safety. 
 
 Now that you mention it, Mitch in Michigan has one of those.
 
 
 BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the
 last few years, isn't it? 
 
 Yes.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Craig wrote:
 
 I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the
 Rust Belt in northern Indiana.

 With the number of things we need to do before the end of the
 month when we need to be out of our home, I'm thinking of
 delaying the acquisition of another Mercedes until after we move.

Hmm.  I think I would want to buy a car in the desert south-west
rather than in Indiana...

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Good point.  I had forgotten all about the Chrysler connection.

Anyway, my 1983 300TD with 342,000 on the clock (replacement drive train
with approx. 260K miles) performed like a CHAMP (albeit a COLD champ) to
and from Ohio this weekend.  And the Goform  tires had GREAT road handling
and comfort characteristics, and I didn't slip off the road ONCE.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 There's a distinctive gap in decent MBs due to the Chrysler stuff.

 Once you hit 2000, things go downhill rapidly for the most part. I'm
 amazed at the number of cheap S500s out there once you get to 2000.  These
 are to be avoided at all costs for a number of reasons...

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
  On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 05:32:19 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4
  wheel drive for the snow, Mercedes for safety.
 
  Now that you mention it, Mitch in Michigan has one of those.
 
 
  BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the
  last few years, isn't it?
 
  Yes.
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Andy sez:   And the Goform  tires had GREAT road handling
and comfort characteristics, and I didn't slip off the road ONCE.


Congrats! and good for you.  I saw Plenty of ARkies went off the road 
in an inch or two of white stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Why should they be avoided at all costs? The same used to be said about the 140

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 On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a distinctive gap in decent MBs due to the Chrysler stuff.
 
 Once you hit 2000, things go downhill rapidly for the most part. I'm amazed 
 at the number of cheap S500s out there once you get to 2000.  These are to be 
 avoided at all costs for a number of reasons...
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 05:32:19 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4
 wheel drive for the snow, Mercedes for safety.
 
 Now that you mention it, Mitch in Michigan has one of those.
 
 
 BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the
 last few years, isn't it?
 
 Yes.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fit and finish sucks, reliability of critical systems such as the suspension is 
poor and very expensive to repair, even as a DIY thing, cabin electronics are 
wonky, and telematics suck (ask Jaime about that.)

At least the W140s are still within the ability of nearly any competent DIY 
owner to repair/maintain.

Dan

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 On Mar 9, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Why should they be avoided at all costs? The same used to be said about the 
 140
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 There's a distinctive gap in decent MBs due to the Chrysler stuff.
 
 Once you hit 2000, things go downhill rapidly for the most part. I'm amazed 
 at the number of cheap S500s out there once you get to 2000.  These are to 
 be avoided at all costs for a number of reasons...
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 9, 2015, at 11:18 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mon, 9 Mar 2015 05:32:19 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4
 wheel drive for the snow, Mercedes for safety.
 
 Now that you mention it, Mitch in Michigan has one of those.
 
 
 BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the
 last few years, isn't it?
 
 Yes.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
But, Chrysler quality went UP! I don't think you can blame the change in MB
quality on their having bought Chrysler - I think it's a symptom of the
thinking/planning that lead them to buy Chrysler then.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Why should they be avoided at all costs? The same used to be said about
 the 140

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 9, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  There's a distinctive gap in decent MBs due to the Chrysler stuff.
 
  Once you hit 2000, things go downhill rapidly for the most part. I'm
 amazed at the number of cheap S500s out there once you get to 2000.  These
 are to be avoided at all costs for a number of reasons...
 
  Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In all honesty the roads were CLEAR with no ice or snow so I can't reliably
aver how well they handle on ICE or SNOW.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andy sez:   And the Goform  tires had GREAT road handling
 and comfort characteristics, and I didn't slip off the road ONCE.


 Congrats! and good for you.  I saw Plenty of ARkies went off the road in
 an inch or two of white stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You over trimmed again Peter, took me awhile to realize this was for me.
Mine is smooth as silk once it runs for 15 seconds, lumpy to get there. I'm 
getting a little smell of diesel now with no easily visible source. Once the 
weather warms up some I'll wipe around with a paper towel, ought to be able to 
find it. Its not return lines or anything obvious.
-Curt

  From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 9, 2015 7:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck
   
Look at the fuel lines around the pre-heater and pre-heater  
thermostat.  These are all on the suction side, and if they leak will  
leak air in instead of fuel out.  O-rings in the pre-heater thermostat  
and the one on the lift pump where the suction line attaches are also  
a source of invisible leakage that allows air in, with rough idle,  
hard starts, and general vibration while running.

I need to chase all this down on the 300D too -- I replaced the lines  
on the small in-line filter because they were rock hard, and that  
helped, but have not had a chance to get to the rest of them.  Will  
also replace the o-rings, my brother just did it on his 300SDL.

Leaks in the suction side of the fuel system result in a hard miss in  
time with engine rotation that cannot be isolated to any cylinder by  
loosening the cap nuts on the injection lines.  All the nozzles are  
missing some time or other due to air in the fuel and low fill  
pressure in the injection pump supply chamber.  Takes a while to purge  
all the air out once you get the leaks fixed.

Mine runs as smooth as silk so long as the air temp is above 50,  
shakes like crazy below that most of the time, which makes me think I  
have an air leak.



Peter


  
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Craig,

I'm glad Shirley is okay, and I'm 
glad the Mercedes took care of it's first priority, the safety of it's 
occupants. 

Craig wrote:
I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the Rust
Belt in northern Indiana.

A W210 4-matic would be the ticket. No spring perches to rust away, 4 wheel 
drive for the snow, 
Mercedes for safety. 

BTW, that is the second W124 of yours to fall victim of a crash in the last few 
years, isn't it? 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You should forget about another 140 and try a 210. While I agree the 140 is 
very nice, the 210 is a decent modern car that are much easier to find.

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 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
 set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….
 
 Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
 etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
 his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it 
 comes to everything, even phones.
 
 Grr.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What about that 320 you were talking about?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
 success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
 There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
 driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
 leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
 nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
 which may be attractive to you.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 11:15:57 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

She's banged up, bruised, and sore, but is OK.

She was driving our '95 E320 (the one I bought from Snook). I haven't
seen it, but was told it was rolled multiple times, so I cannot see how
it won't be totaled.

I guess I won't be needing the passenger side mirror from you anymore. :-)

I also won't have to change the transmission fluid, fix the emergency
blinker, or buy new tires for it.

We had a flat tire while we were in Carlsbad and I almost bought a new
set for the car since the Nokian WRG2 tires are down to the wear bars --
having to wait a day for the tire store to get them from Albuquerque or
El Paso stopped that, thankfully.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Black socks with sandals!  And don't forget to schedule your haircut, 
doctor visit, bank visit, grocery run, pharmacy run, and other errands 
on different days so you have something to do, just enough to justify 
the nap after the errands.


I told my kids if I ever get to that point they have my permission to 
take me out to the woods and tie me to a tree.  It's in my living will.


--R



On 3/8/15 1:25 PM, WILTON wrote:
Washin' the Bermuda shorts and black socks and watchin' the clock for 
the early bird specials.  ;)


Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck


That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles 
from old retired Yankees


--R



On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when 
he could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….


Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  
I’ve had emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad 
seems to be a Luddite when it comes to everything, even phones.


Grr.

Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without 
a lot of success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the 
immediate area.  There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I 
want but I’m not keen about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as 
it’s at a dealership…


Dan


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Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan? 
Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six 
engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More 
and better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

--
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:33:12 -0400 Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?
 Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six
 engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and
 better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

Re-taking the thread to talk about our car situation :-) :

I had been thinking of another late W124 (I have a set of 15 rims I got
from Kaleb and could get the 16 rims off our '95 E320 -- if they are not
bent).

I also thought of an '84 or '85 300SD.

I would be open to a W140, given Dan's positive comments on the series
(and, hopefully, his advice on fixing one).

I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the Rust
Belt in northern Indiana.

Also, since we will be where it gets COLD, I'm thinking our next car
should run on gasoline, unless a diesel can be started when it's cold.
One advantage, though, is that Elkhart is close to water, so it won't get
quite as bitterly cold as, say, Montana or Minnesota.

With the number of things we need to do before the end of the month when
we need to be out of our home, I'm thinking of delaying the acquisition
of another Mercedes until after we move. And I'm still in the process of
getting our truck repaired (which is why Shirley was coming down to
Albuquerque to pick me up). I need to go down to Albuquerque (~ 2 hours
one way) early this week to retrieve our personal items from our E320 and
then go talk with people about trailers and tires for them.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That sort of thing is pretty scary, glad she has emerged mostly 
functional.  A testament I guess to a car that is 20 years old, and the 
engineering in it.  Not sure I would want to be in some other 20 yr old 
vehicle and do that, though my truck is a 96 and I drive that.  Hope I 
never have the chance to test its integrity in that fashion.


Maybe Kleb can give you a coupla $100 for the hulk, use the bits to fix 
up his other treasures.


--R



On 3/8/15 5:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 11:15:57 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

She's banged up, bruised, and sore, but is OK.

She was driving our '95 E320 (the one I bought from Snook). I haven't
seen it, but was told it was rolled multiple times, so I cannot see how
it won't be totaled.

I guess I won't be needing the passenger side mirror from you anymore. :-)

I also won't have to change the transmission fluid, fix the emergency
blinker, or buy new tires for it.

We had a flat tire while we were in Carlsbad and I almost bought a new
set for the car since the Nokian WRG2 tires are down to the wear bars --
having to wait a day for the tire store to get them from Albuquerque or
El Paso stopped that, thankfully.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Once he got a decent battery in it, my son's 190D started reliably in
Houghton, MI - on the UP - for two years. I'm sure it got plenty cold
there. I never had an issue with any of the OM60x engines at or a little
below 0F here. Mobil 1 is your friend (at the risk of starting another oil
thread).

I agree that given that you are moving soon, having one less car to move is
a plus. So glad to hear that Shirley is going to be OK - rolling a car is
very scary!


On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Any 60x engine should start well below zero. I've never figured out how
 cold it has to be before a 190D won't start. I've had 'em start easily at
 -10F. I've started my '98 Jetta at -16F and although I had to wait for a
 long time for the glow plugs it started right up no problem. I'd suggest
 any diesel in that age range should start right up in the cold.
 -Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Over the last couple years my 300D has become reluctant to start at  
below zero temps.   one or two cylinders fire right up, and if the  
rest did like my old diesel did, it would take right off.


These days I have to keep cranking while it sputters and smokes,  
eventually starting and running poorly, but this was a -8,


Engine now has at least 400,000 miles on it, and I suspect I need to  
replace the pressure valve holder seals and probably need to check the  
injectors, it always runs rather rough at idle and the nozzles have at  
least 120,000 miles on them, possibly considerably more.


I think it would benefit from a new timing chain, too.

But it started and ran well at -8 with no block heater.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Any 60x engine should start well below zero. I've never figured out how cold it 
has to be before a 190D won't start. I've had 'em start easily at -10F. I've 
started my '98 Jetta at -16F and although I had to wait for a long time for the 
glow plugs it started right up no problem. I'd suggest any diesel in that age 
range should start right up in the cold.
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2015 6:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck
   
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 11:33:12 -0400 Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?
 Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six
 engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and
 better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

Re-taking the thread to talk about our car situation :-) :

I had been thinking of another late W124 (I have a set of 15 rims I got
from Kaleb and could get the 16 rims off our '95 E320 -- if they are not
bent).

I also thought of an '84 or '85 300SD.

I would be open to a W140, given Dan's positive comments on the series
(and, hopefully, his advice on fixing one).

I'm not sure I would want a W210, since we will be moving to the Rust
Belt in northern Indiana.

Also, since we will be where it gets COLD, I'm thinking our next car
should run on gasoline, unless a diesel can be started when it's cold.
One advantage, though, is that Elkhart is close to water, so it won't get
quite as bitterly cold as, say, Montana or Minnesota.

With the number of things we need to do before the end of the month when
we need to be out of our home, I'm thinking of delaying the acquisition
of another Mercedes until after we move. And I'm still in the process of
getting our truck repaired (which is why Shirley was coming down to
Albuquerque to pick me up). I need to go down to Albuquerque (~ 2 hours
one way) early this week to retrieve our personal items from our E320 and
then go talk with people about trailers and tires for them.




Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps leap 
forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which may 
be attractive to you.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  There 
is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about driving 
2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…

Dan


 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
 leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
 examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which 
 may be attractive to you.
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
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 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Geez glad to hear she is ok. What was she driving? The snook car?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 7, 2015, at 11:51 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Long as Shirley's okeh, the rest is gravy.  (sends good vibes along)
 
 -MMM-
 
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Craig McCluskey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I had hoped to send out an Update email describing all that has been
 going on with us and what we think the Lord will have us do to get to
 Indiana, but I have waiting at a truck service center here in Albuquerque
 for Shirley to come down from Los Alamos to pick me up and just got a call
 that she was involved in a roll-over accident on the Coors offramp from
 I-40.
 
 I do know that Shirley is OK; I talked with her on our cell phone. An
 Albuquerque Police Detective came on the phone and said he would send a
 squad car over to pick me up.
 
 I called Charlie Bell of our church and he is initiating some help from
 the church people.
 
 Your prayers are greatly coveted.
 
 God bless,
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What about that 320 you were talking about?

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 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
 success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
 There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
 driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
 
 Dan
 
 
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 wrote:
 
 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
 leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
 nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
 which may be attractive to you.
 -- 
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 Charleston SC
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 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….

Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it comes 
to everything, even phones.

Grr.

Dan


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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What about that 320 you were talking about?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
 success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  
 There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about 
 driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Craig,
 
 Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?  
 
 Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps 
 leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think 
 nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, 
 which may be attractive to you.
 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles 
from old retired Yankees


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On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he could 
set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….

Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer maintained, 
etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve had emails from 
his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a Luddite when it comes 
to everything, even phones.

Grr.

Dan



On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot of 
success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate area.  There 
is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not keen about driving 
2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…

Dan



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Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan?  Perhaps leap 
forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six engine?  I think nice 
examples start at about $14k or so.  More and better safety features, which may 
be attractive to you.
--
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I remain convinced that the time SWMBA was forced off the freeway
in the SL, had she been in the X5 it would have rolled.  The 107
is low, wide, and heavy, and did not flip.  There was a lot of
crap wedged between the tires and the rims, and a water jug in
the trunk was split.  Lot of sideways forces at play there,
she did a 360 before coming to a stop.  Much prefer yaw to
roll!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Washin' the Bermuda shorts and black socks and watchin' the clock for the 
early bird specials.  ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck


That's what happens when you are trying to buy Florida geezermobiles from 
old retired Yankees


--R



On 3/8/15 12:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Talked to the guy last week and he was supposed to call me back when he 
could set up a time to see the car.  Haven’t heard back from him….


Got a line on a nice one owner S320 in Sarasota with 154k, dealer 
maintained, etc., but I can’t seem to connect with the guy either.  I’ve 
had emails from his daughter who posted the CL ad, but Dad seems to be a 
Luddite when it comes to everything, even phones.


Grr.

Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


What about that 320 you were talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I’ve had folks on the prowl for a nice W140 sedan of late without a lot 
of success.  Not a lot locally, or for that matter, in the immediate 
area.  There is a really, really nice S500 in Naples I want but I’m not 
keen about driving 2+ hours to look at it, as it’s at a dealership…


Dan


On Mar 8, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Craig,

Have you started thinking about a replacement for the car yet?

Maybe commission Donald Snook or Kaleb to find a nice 140 sedan? 
Perhaps leap forward to a 2005 E-class CDI, with a straight six 
engine?  I think nice examples start at about $14k or so.  More and 
better safety features, which may be attractive to you.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sounds like she was doing her best Hazzard County imitation!

Hee

Glad to hear she's OK.  Just found this message in the Okiemail hold queue, so 
sorry if it's not current...

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 7, 2015, at 12:51 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Long as Shirley's okeh, the rest is gravy.  (sends good vibes along)
 
 -MMM-
 
 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Craig McCluskey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I had hoped to send out an Update email describing all that has been
 going on with us and what we think the Lord will have us do to get to
 Indiana, but I have waiting at a truck service center here in Albuquerque
 for Shirley to come down from Los Alamos to pick me up and just got a call
 that she was involved in a roll-over accident on the Coors offramp from
 I-40.
 
 I do know that Shirley is OK; I talked with her on our cell phone. An
 Albuquerque Police Detective came on the phone and said he would send a
 squad car over to pick me up.
 
 I called Charlie Bell of our church and he is initiating some help from
 the church people.
 
 Your prayers are greatly coveted.
 
 God bless,
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Indeed, our prayers are with you.  Thankful she's OK.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: Craig McCluskey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck



I had hoped to send out an Update email describing all that has been
going on with us and what we think the Lord will have us do to get to
Indiana, but I have waiting at a truck service center here in Albuquerque
for Shirley to come down from Los Alamos to pick me up and just got a call
that she was involved in a roll-over accident on the Coors offramp from
I-40.

I do know that Shirley is OK; I talked with her on our cell phone. An
Albuquerque Police Detective came on the phone and said he would send a
squad car over to pick me up.

I called Charlie Bell of our church and he is initiating some help from
the church people.

Your prayers are greatly coveted.

God bless,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-07 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Long as Shirley's okeh, the rest is gravy.  (sends good vibes along)

-MMM-

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Craig McCluskey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I had hoped to send out an Update email describing all that has been
 going on with us and what we think the Lord will have us do to get to
 Indiana, but I have waiting at a truck service center here in Albuquerque
 for Shirley to come down from Los Alamos to pick me up and just got a call
 that she was involved in a roll-over accident on the Coors offramp from
 I-40.

 I do know that Shirley is OK; I talked with her on our cell phone. An
 Albuquerque Police Detective came on the phone and said he would send a
 squad car over to pick me up.

 I called Charlie Bell of our church and he is initiating some help from
 the church people.

 Your prayers are greatly coveted.

 God bless,


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:20:06 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Indeed, our prayers are with you.  Thankful she's OK.

Thank you, Wilton.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Update XL: Shirley in a car wreck

2015-03-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 07 Mar 2015 12:59:43 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Glad to hear she's OK.

Thank you, Dan.


Craig

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