Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
https://www.carstereohelp.com/mercedesFiberOptic.htm On 10/25/2020 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Had the same problem in my 02 ML500. Ended up having to send the head unit off for rebuilding. You probably don’t want to drop the coin, but there’s a guy in New Jersey (not Jaime) who rebuilds them for a flat fee for $200. He did mine twice, then when it puked the third time he swapped it out. Exact same symptoms you describe. -D On Oct 24, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: BTW, in related news: I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, which is at the lake. So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear door speaker) Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home. Put the door back together today, still have no sound. Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it freaked out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on and tunes channels, but nothing comes out the speakers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
Had the same problem in my 02 ML500. Ended up having to send the head unit off for rebuilding. You probably don’t want to drop the coin, but there’s a guy in New Jersey (not Jaime) who rebuilds them for a flat fee for $200. He did mine twice, then when it puked the third time he swapped it out. Exact same symptoms you describe. -D > On Oct 24, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > BTW, in related news: > I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, which is > at the lake. > So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear door > speaker) > Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home. > Put the door back together today, still have no sound. > Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it freaked > out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on and tunes > channels, but nothing comes out the speakers. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
BTW, in related news: I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, which is at the lake. So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear door speaker) Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home. Put the door back together today, still have no sound. Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it freaked out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on and tunes channels, but nothing comes out the speakers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
On 2020-10-24 15:57, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I’ll get one of those for the ML500. Will put me up to $725 This was a great video series, except for two things. The tool to pop the door panel loose is not a square shank Craftsman screwdriver, unless you don't care if you scratch the paint under the panel. (you can see the scratches in the video) The correct tool looks more like this: https://www.amazon.com/GOOACC-415Pcs-Retainer-Plastic-Fasteners/dp/B07CQKMK8F The other thing I didn't agree with was bolting the new regulator in instead of buying a riveter and some 3/16 rivets. But it's a good detailed video, he even shows the difference between a right and left regulator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Kx116aqN4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRxqKdZvL0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
I’ll get one of those for the ML500. Will put me up to $725 --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 24, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-10-15 14:15, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at >> Amazon, which is temptingly cheap. >> https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q > > I ordered it Friday, it came yesterday at 5pm, after the weather turned to > crap (FedEx said Thursday but their ground service is not timely in the days > of COVID). > I put it in today and it works. For the price, that's good enough for me. > > Surprisingly, the window went all the way up and down on the first attempt > without resetting the endpoints, maybe the computer doesn't count motor > revolutions like it does on the W140? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
On 2020-10-15 14:15, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at Amazon, which is temptingly cheap. https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q I ordered it Friday, it came yesterday at 5pm, after the weather turned to crap (FedEx said Thursday but their ground service is not timely in the days of COVID). I put it in today and it works. For the price, that's good enough for me. Surprisingly, the window went all the way up and down on the first attempt without resetting the endpoints, maybe the computer doesn't count motor revolutions like it does on the W140? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
On 2020-10-15 13:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones. Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges. Nothing bigger than an ignition key ships for less than $7.99 at Rock. Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at Amazon, which is temptingly cheap. https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes: > The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones. Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
I don't know when, if ever, I last opened that window. Driver's window gets used, pax front occasionally, rear popouts rarely. Finding odd things at Rock Auto. The cheap ones fit 1998-2002 The listings for my 2003 fit 1998-2005 but cost twice as much. The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones. On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
My local Ace Hardware had the right size rivets. Cheaper than the dealer, too. -D > On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is >> cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in >> place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to >> pop them. > > Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16). > Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140. > > I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay > regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor > stronger than the regulator). > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
Yes you will need rivets or bodge up some bolts. I have to do the same on the $700ML500. Amazon have all the bits not particularly expensive. I found a step-by-step pdf of the process, not hard. I’m not home so can’t send a link but search for it? Might have been on benzworld. There are some youtubers too. Get some new door panel plastic rivets as they will break. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and > does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, > better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them. > > -D > >> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle. >> I tap the up button, nothing happens. >> Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6" >> Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops >> back down. >> >> Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the >> window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off. >> >> Anybody been there, done that with this chassis? >> Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them. Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16). Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140. I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor stronger than the regulator). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.
If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them. -D > On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle. > I tap the up button, nothing happens. > Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6" > Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops back > down. > > Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the > window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off. > > Anybody been there, done that with this chassis? > Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com