Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

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On 10/25/2020 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Had the same problem in my 02 ML500. Ended up having to send the head unit off 
for rebuilding. You probably don’t want to drop the coin, but there’s a guy in 
New Jersey (not Jaime) who rebuilds them for a flat fee for $200. He did mine 
twice, then when it puked the third time he swapped it out. Exact same symptoms 
you describe.

-D


On Oct 24, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:


BTW, in related news:
I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, which is at 
the lake.
So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear door 
speaker)
Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home.
Put the door back together today, still have no sound.
Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it freaked 
out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on and tunes 
channels, but nothing comes out the speakers.

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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Had the same problem in my 02 ML500. Ended up having to send the head unit off 
for rebuilding. You probably don’t want to drop the coin, but there’s a guy in 
New Jersey (not Jaime) who rebuilds them for a flat fee for $200. He did mine 
twice, then when it puked the third time he swapped it out. Exact same symptoms 
you describe.

-D

> On Oct 24, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> BTW, in related news:
> I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, which is 
> at the lake.
> So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear door 
> speaker)
> Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home.
> Put the door back together today, still have no sound.
> Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it freaked 
> out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on and tunes 
> channels, but nothing comes out the speakers.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



BTW, in related news:
I took my door apart, remembered my rivitool was in the green W140, 
which is at the lake.
So I drove the ML to fetch the tool and window rivets (sans left rear 
door speaker)

Radio worked on the way there. Did not work on the way home.
Put the door back together today, still have no sound.
Either operating with an open speaker circuit blew my Bose amp, or it 
freaked out the nannies and they shut it down. The head unit turns on 
and tunes channels, but nothing comes out the speakers.


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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-24 15:57, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I’ll get one of those for the ML500. Will put me up to $725


This was a great video series, except for two things.
The tool to pop the door panel loose is not a square shank Craftsman 
screwdriver, unless you don't care if you scratch the paint under the 
panel. (you can see the scratches in the video)

The correct tool looks more like this:
https://www.amazon.com/GOOACC-415Pcs-Retainer-Plastic-Fasteners/dp/B07CQKMK8F

The other thing I didn't agree with was bolting the new regulator in 
instead of buying a riveter and some 3/16 rivets. But it's a good 
detailed video, he even shows the difference between a right and left 
regulator.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Kx116aqN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlRxqKdZvL0

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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-24 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’ll get one of those for the ML500. Will put me up to $725

--FT
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> On Oct 24, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-15 14:15, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at
>> Amazon, which is temptingly cheap.
>> https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q
> 
> I ordered it Friday, it came yesterday at 5pm, after the weather turned to 
> crap (FedEx said Thursday but their ground service is not timely in the days 
> of COVID).
> I put it in today and it works. For the price, that's good enough for me.
> 
> Surprisingly, the window went all the way up and down on the first attempt 
> without resetting the endpoints, maybe the computer doesn't count motor 
> revolutions like it does on the W140?
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-24 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-15 14:15, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:


Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at
Amazon, which is temptingly cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q


I ordered it Friday, it came yesterday at 5pm, after the weather turned 
to crap (FedEx said Thursday but their ground service is not timely in 
the days of COVID).
I put it in today and it works. For the price, that's good enough for 
me.


Surprisingly, the window went all the way up and down on the first 
attempt without resetting the endpoints, maybe the computer doesn't 
count motor revolutions like it does on the W140?


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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-15 13:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:


The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.


Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges.


Nothing bigger than an ignition key ships for less than $7.99 at Rock.

Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at 
Amazon, which is temptingly cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q

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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.

Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I don't know when, if ever, I last opened that window. Driver's window 
gets used, pax front occasionally, rear popouts rarely.


Finding odd things at Rock Auto.
The cheap ones fit 1998-2002
The listings for my 2003 fit 1998-2005 but cost twice as much.
The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.


On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
pop them.



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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My local Ace Hardware had the right size rivets. Cheaper than the dealer, too.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
>> cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
>> place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
>> pop them.
> 
> Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16).
> Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140.
> 
> I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay 
> regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor 
> stronger than the regulator).
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yes you will need rivets or bodge up some bolts. I have to do the same on the 
$700ML500.   Amazon have all the bits not particularly expensive. 

 I found a step-by-step pdf of the process, not hard. I’m not home so can’t 
send a link but search for it? Might have been on benzworld. There are some 
youtubers too. 

Get some new door panel plastic rivets as they will break. 

--FT
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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and 
> does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, 
> better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle.
>> I tap the up button, nothing happens.
>> Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6"
>> Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops 
>> back down.
>> 
>> Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the 
>> window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off.
>> 
>> Anybody been there, done that with this chassis?
>> Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator?
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
pop them.


Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16).
Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140.

I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay 
regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor 
stronger than the regulator).


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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

2020-10-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and 
does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, 
better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle.
> I tap the up button, nothing happens.
> Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6"
> Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops back 
> down.
> 
> Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the 
> window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off.
> 
> Anybody been there, done that with this chassis?
> Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator?
> 
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