Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> but now I'm thinking that will be her first car.

For my son, I opted for a stick shift.  I wanted him to know how
to drive one, whatever he preferred to drive (and buy!) on his own.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
He got a better deal than I would have sold it to you for.

-D

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Far from it, nice straight rust free body and just under 300k miles, so I
> can probably drive this car for another 10 to 15 years.  It does need a new
> paint job, and the transmission is slow to shift into reverse, but I can
> live with those issues.
> 
> A few days ago my daughter started talking about getting her learner's
> permit to start driving when she turns 15, which is coming right up later
> this year.  Wow that is happening fast!  I've got my old blue '95 E300
> still taking a spot in the drive, was going to sell that, but now I'm
> thinking that will be her first car.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like Poos sold you a POS.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bought this '95 E300 from Dan a couple years ago, and it had a fuel
>> leak
>>> at the fuel filter holder when I picked it up.  There are five different
>>> hoses that connect to this assembly, all use o-rings to make the seal,
>> and
>>> one at the top center was leaking.  It was a slow leak, Dan thought maybe
>>> the filter holder assembly itself had a defect, so he'd already
>> purchased a
>>> new assembly and it came with the car.
>>> 
>>> I bought a thicker o-ring, installed that, and it seemed to solve the
>>> problem.  Until it didn't.  A few weeks ago I noticed the smell of diesel
>>> fuel wafting from under the hood ("Say, is that diesel fuel I smell?"
>> said
>>> somebody's girlfriend on Kaleb's website as she smiles into the
>> camera).  A
>>> couple days later it had turned into a gusher, and I had not even been
>>> driving the car.  Big pool of diesel under the front bumper.
>>> 
>>> The leak had returned with a vengeance.  Engine running, the middle hose
>>> connection would pulse in and out.  OK, time to swap in that new assembly
>>> and some new o-rings, right?
>>> 
>>> I scrounged around for about 30 minutes until I finally found my stash of
>>> spare o-rings for the OM606 non-turbo fuel system, and then removed all
>> the
>>> fuel lines from the filter holder.  Loosened the center bolt / valve
>>> assembly (that holds the big main filter in place) and then removed the
>>> bolts that mount the fuel filter holder in place on the head.  Lifted out
>>> the filter and holder, and finished removing the filter on the workbench
>> so
>>> I could hold it upright and not spill anymore fuel.  Replaced all the
>>> O-rings, and then got out a new fuel filter and noticed something odd as
>> I
>>> compared it with the old.  Old filter, with the MB star mark, has the
>>> center rubber seal just glued to the top of the filter, and it was in two
>>> pieces, floating around the top of the filter and obviously not sealing
>>> anything.  New filter (Mahle) has a steel lip folded over the center
>> rubber
>>> seal, keeping it in place.
>>> 
>>> I suspect that the failure of that center rubber seal meant that the
>> filter
>>> wasn't filtering anything, and so the pressure of the flow from the lift
>>> pump was going directly to the outlet line and that was too much for the
>>> o-ring to seal.  I think if I had just replaced the big filter, the leak
>>> would have been solved.
>>> 
>>> Put it all back together and fired up the engine, leak is gone.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Far from it, nice straight rust free body and just under 300k miles, so I
can probably drive this car for another 10 to 15 years.  It does need a new
paint job, and the transmission is slow to shift into reverse, but I can
live with those issues.

A few days ago my daughter started talking about getting her learner's
permit to start driving when she turns 15, which is coming right up later
this year.  Wow that is happening fast!  I've got my old blue '95 E300
still taking a spot in the drive, was going to sell that, but now I'm
thinking that will be her first car.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:35 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds like Poos sold you a POS.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I bought this '95 E300 from Dan a couple years ago, and it had a fuel
> leak
> > at the fuel filter holder when I picked it up.  There are five different
> > hoses that connect to this assembly, all use o-rings to make the seal,
> and
> > one at the top center was leaking.  It was a slow leak, Dan thought maybe
> > the filter holder assembly itself had a defect, so he'd already
> purchased a
> > new assembly and it came with the car.
> >
> > I bought a thicker o-ring, installed that, and it seemed to solve the
> > problem.  Until it didn't.  A few weeks ago I noticed the smell of diesel
> > fuel wafting from under the hood ("Say, is that diesel fuel I smell?"
> said
> > somebody's girlfriend on Kaleb's website as she smiles into the
> camera).  A
> > couple days later it had turned into a gusher, and I had not even been
> > driving the car.  Big pool of diesel under the front bumper.
> >
> > The leak had returned with a vengeance.  Engine running, the middle hose
> > connection would pulse in and out.  OK, time to swap in that new assembly
> > and some new o-rings, right?
> >
> > I scrounged around for about 30 minutes until I finally found my stash of
> > spare o-rings for the OM606 non-turbo fuel system, and then removed all
> the
> > fuel lines from the filter holder.  Loosened the center bolt / valve
> > assembly (that holds the big main filter in place) and then removed the
> > bolts that mount the fuel filter holder in place on the head.  Lifted out
> > the filter and holder, and finished removing the filter on the workbench
> so
> > I could hold it upright and not spill anymore fuel.  Replaced all the
> > O-rings, and then got out a new fuel filter and noticed something odd as
> I
> > compared it with the old.  Old filter, with the MB star mark, has the
> > center rubber seal just glued to the top of the filter, and it was in two
> > pieces, floating around the top of the filter and obviously not sealing
> > anything.  New filter (Mahle) has a steel lip folded over the center
> rubber
> > seal, keeping it in place.
> >
> > I suspect that the failure of that center rubber seal meant that the
> filter
> > wasn't filtering anything, and so the pressure of the flow from the lift
> > pump was going directly to the outlet line and that was too much for the
> > o-ring to seal.  I think if I had just replaced the big filter, the leak
> > would have been solved.
> >
> > Put it all back together and fired up the engine, leak is gone.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yeah, bad seal from probably just before when you noticed it leaking.  As I
recall you said that filter had recently been changed.

If the leak does return, the only thing left to replace would be that fuel
line.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 3:30 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s weird, Max. That would suggest that the center seal on the OE
> filter was bad from the get-go?
>
> Glad you figured it out.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 6, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I bought this '95 E300 from Dan a couple years ago, and it had a fuel
> leak
> > at the fuel filter holder when I picked it up.  There are five different
> > hoses that connect to this assembly, all use o-rings to make the seal,
> and
> > one at the top center was leaking.  It was a slow leak, Dan thought maybe
> > the filter holder assembly itself had a defect, so he'd already
> purchased a
> > new assembly and it came with the car.
> >
> > I bought a thicker o-ring, installed that, and it seemed to solve the
> > problem.  Until it didn't.  A few weeks ago I noticed the smell of diesel
> > fuel wafting from under the hood ("Say, is that diesel fuel I smell?"
> said
> > somebody's girlfriend on Kaleb's website as she smiles into the
> camera).  A
> > couple days later it had turned into a gusher, and I had not even been
> > driving the car.  Big pool of diesel under the front bumper.
> >
> > The leak had returned with a vengeance.  Engine running, the middle hose
> > connection would pulse in and out.  OK, time to swap in that new assembly
> > and some new o-rings, right?
> >
> > I scrounged around for about 30 minutes until I finally found my stash of
> > spare o-rings for the OM606 non-turbo fuel system, and then removed all
> the
> > fuel lines from the filter holder.  Loosened the center bolt / valve
> > assembly (that holds the big main filter in place) and then removed the
> > bolts that mount the fuel filter holder in place on the head.  Lifted out
> > the filter and holder, and finished removing the filter on the workbench
> so
> > I could hold it upright and not spill anymore fuel.  Replaced all the
> > O-rings, and then got out a new fuel filter and noticed something odd as
> I
> > compared it with the old.  Old filter, with the MB star mark, has the
> > center rubber seal just glued to the top of the filter, and it was in two
> > pieces, floating around the top of the filter and obviously not sealing
> > anything.  New filter (Mahle) has a steel lip folded over the center
> rubber
> > seal, keeping it in place.
> >
> > I suspect that the failure of that center rubber seal meant that the
> filter
> > wasn't filtering anything, and so the pressure of the flow from the lift
> > pump was going directly to the outlet line and that was too much for the
> > o-ring to seal.  I think if I had just replaced the big filter, the leak
> > would have been solved.
> >
> > Put it all back together and fired up the engine, leak is gone.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sounds like Poos sold you a POS.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought this '95 E300 from Dan a couple years ago, and it had a fuel leak
> at the fuel filter holder when I picked it up.  There are five different
> hoses that connect to this assembly, all use o-rings to make the seal, and
> one at the top center was leaking.  It was a slow leak, Dan thought maybe
> the filter holder assembly itself had a defect, so he'd already purchased a
> new assembly and it came with the car.
> 
> I bought a thicker o-ring, installed that, and it seemed to solve the
> problem.  Until it didn't.  A few weeks ago I noticed the smell of diesel
> fuel wafting from under the hood ("Say, is that diesel fuel I smell?" said
> somebody's girlfriend on Kaleb's website as she smiles into the camera).  A
> couple days later it had turned into a gusher, and I had not even been
> driving the car.  Big pool of diesel under the front bumper.
> 
> The leak had returned with a vengeance.  Engine running, the middle hose
> connection would pulse in and out.  OK, time to swap in that new assembly
> and some new o-rings, right?
> 
> I scrounged around for about 30 minutes until I finally found my stash of
> spare o-rings for the OM606 non-turbo fuel system, and then removed all the
> fuel lines from the filter holder.  Loosened the center bolt / valve
> assembly (that holds the big main filter in place) and then removed the
> bolts that mount the fuel filter holder in place on the head.  Lifted out
> the filter and holder, and finished removing the filter on the workbench so
> I could hold it upright and not spill anymore fuel.  Replaced all the
> O-rings, and then got out a new fuel filter and noticed something odd as I
> compared it with the old.  Old filter, with the MB star mark, has the
> center rubber seal just glued to the top of the filter, and it was in two
> pieces, floating around the top of the filter and obviously not sealing
> anything.  New filter (Mahle) has a steel lip folded over the center rubber
> seal, keeping it in place.
> 
> I suspect that the failure of that center rubber seal meant that the filter
> wasn't filtering anything, and so the pressure of the flow from the lift
> pump was going directly to the outlet line and that was too much for the
> o-ring to seal.  I think if I had just replaced the big filter, the leak
> would have been solved.
> 
> Put it all back together and fired up the engine, leak is gone.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Had a brand-new VW Jetta and noticed fresh oil drops under the
car. Turned out the factory-installed oil filter had a bad seal.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> That’s weird, Max. That would suggest that the center seal on the OE
> filter was bad from the get-go?
>
> Glad you figured it out.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Weird Fuel Leak '95 E300 with OM606

2021-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s weird, Max. That would suggest that the center seal on the OE filter was 
bad from the get-go?

Glad you figured it out.

-D

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 2:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought this '95 E300 from Dan a couple years ago, and it had a fuel leak
> at the fuel filter holder when I picked it up.  There are five different
> hoses that connect to this assembly, all use o-rings to make the seal, and
> one at the top center was leaking.  It was a slow leak, Dan thought maybe
> the filter holder assembly itself had a defect, so he'd already purchased a
> new assembly and it came with the car.
> 
> I bought a thicker o-ring, installed that, and it seemed to solve the
> problem.  Until it didn't.  A few weeks ago I noticed the smell of diesel
> fuel wafting from under the hood ("Say, is that diesel fuel I smell?" said
> somebody's girlfriend on Kaleb's website as she smiles into the camera).  A
> couple days later it had turned into a gusher, and I had not even been
> driving the car.  Big pool of diesel under the front bumper.
> 
> The leak had returned with a vengeance.  Engine running, the middle hose
> connection would pulse in and out.  OK, time to swap in that new assembly
> and some new o-rings, right?
> 
> I scrounged around for about 30 minutes until I finally found my stash of
> spare o-rings for the OM606 non-turbo fuel system, and then removed all the
> fuel lines from the filter holder.  Loosened the center bolt / valve
> assembly (that holds the big main filter in place) and then removed the
> bolts that mount the fuel filter holder in place on the head.  Lifted out
> the filter and holder, and finished removing the filter on the workbench so
> I could hold it upright and not spill anymore fuel.  Replaced all the
> O-rings, and then got out a new fuel filter and noticed something odd as I
> compared it with the old.  Old filter, with the MB star mark, has the
> center rubber seal just glued to the top of the filter, and it was in two
> pieces, floating around the top of the filter and obviously not sealing
> anything.  New filter (Mahle) has a steel lip folded over the center rubber
> seal, keeping it in place.
> 
> I suspect that the failure of that center rubber seal meant that the filter
> wasn't filtering anything, and so the pressure of the flow from the lift
> pump was going directly to the outlet line and that was too much for the
> o-ring to seal.  I think if I had just replaced the big filter, the leak
> would have been solved.
> 
> Put it all back together and fired up the engine, leak is gone.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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