Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-11 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
  Kaleb and Dan write back and forth about alternator
  failure, warrenty replacement and such.

 Andrew wrote:
 
  I wonder if there will be a renaissance in steam powered
 cars. You wouldn't have these prtoblems with a steam
 powered car.

I suspect that we would still have an alternator.

Folks would still expect electric lights, electric for
'phones, radios, windows, etc.  I suppose the heater/AC fan
and AC compressor could be run off of steam.

Possibly more complicated as the primary propulsion doesn't
need a transmission since an external combustion piston
engine has max torque at zero RPM.  It could be a aux power
unit would have to run the alternator.  That's how the steam
locomotives did it, a turbine driven generator to generate
electricity.

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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and has 
a life time warranty?

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 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as 
 he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full 
 charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another 
 Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November 
 the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
 out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we 
 were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm 
 beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
But now you can return the dead one right?
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
   
As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens.

If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty 
easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour.

Not something I want to be good at, however.

Dan

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many 
 alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact 
 number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show 
 up...
 -Curt
 
      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as 
 he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full 
 charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another 
 Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November 
 the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
 out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we 
 were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm 
 beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many 
alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact 
number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show 
up...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
   
Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves

Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:

The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
checked?

I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.

I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.

20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as 
he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine.

I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full 
charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another 
Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)

We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! So 
much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in November 
of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.

So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't want 
to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other Advance 
Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock.

Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November 
the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.

We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.

Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we 
were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm 
beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.

Oy.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one 
from them to begin with.

I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.  I also don't have a fleet of 
cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off the 
road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical.

Dan

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and 
 has a life time warranty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
 as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
 machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in 
 stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
 out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as 
 we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. 
 I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens.

If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty 
easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour.

Not something I want to be good at, however.

Dan

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many 
 alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact 
 number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me show 
 up...
 -Curt
 
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, as 
 he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a full 
 charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to another 
 Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in November 
 the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
 out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as we 
 were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. I'm 
 beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty instead 
of buying another one.

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 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one 
 from them to begin with.
 
 I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.  I also don't have a fleet of 
 cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is off 
 the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and 
 has a life time warranty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
 as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
 machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in 
 stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping 
 it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as 
 we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a 
 while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Absolutely. Other than my time, the replacement cost nothing.

Dan

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 On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 But now you can return the dead one right?
 -Curt
 
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
 
 As I said in a previous reply, I took a chance and lost. It happens.
 
 If there was a bright side, it's that the alternator on these cars is pretty 
 easy to replace. First one took maybe 90 minutes, the second under an hour.
 
 Not something I want to be good at, however.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Some will remember when I went through this with my '83 240D and put many 
 alternators in before getting one that lasted. I don't remember the exact 
 number, it was at least 3. My Indy was getting plenty tired of seeing me 
 show up...
 -Curt
 
   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
 as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
 machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the

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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY on the 420; 'hope it goes well with the 500.

Wilton

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From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...



Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves

Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:

The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
checked?


I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.


I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.

20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
machine.


I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)


We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. 
Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car 
back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.


So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in 
stock.


Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.


We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping 
it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.


Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as 
we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a 
while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.


Oy.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sorry to confuse things.

I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return the 
core.

Dan

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 On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty 
 instead of buying another one.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought one 
 from them to begin with.
 
 I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.  I also don't have a fleet 
 of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is 
 off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them and 
 has a life time warranty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
 as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
 machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. 
 Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car 
 back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in 
 stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping 
 it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as 
 we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a 
 while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Oh ok

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sorry to confuse things.
 
 I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return the 
 core.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty 
 instead of buying another one.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I bought 
 one from them to begin with.
 
 I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.  I also don't have a fleet 
 of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if theirs is 
 off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical.
 
 Dan
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from them 
 and has a life time warranty?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the 
 battery checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at 
 the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's 
 good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their 
 diagnostic machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. 
 Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car 
 back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I 
 don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to 
 the other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't 
 have in stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping 
 it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it 
 as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a 
 while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 I wonder if there will be a renaissance in steam powered cars. You
wouldn't have these prtoblems with a steam powered car.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Oh ok

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Sorry to confuse things.
 
  I had to buy the replacement, which they will refund 100% when I return
 the core.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Jun 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I guess I'm not sure why you did not get it swapped out under warranty
 instead of buying another one.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Convenience, and the fact that I'm more or less locked in since I
 bought one from them to begin with.
 
  I know, I rolled the dice and lost. It happens.  I also don't have a
 fleet of cars around that I can just move someone into another car if
 theirs is off the road. Every car here is pretty much mission critical.
 
  Dan
 
  On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  So why did you buy another alternator of then failed one came from
 them and has a life time warranty?
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
  Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
  The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the
 battery checked?
 
  I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage
 at the battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
  I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
  20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's
 good, as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their
 diagnostic machine.
 
  I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them
 do a full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go
 to another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
  We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output.
 Bingo! So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car
 back in November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
  So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I
 don't want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the
 other Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have
 in stock.
 
  Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
  We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour
 swapping it out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
  Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with
 it as we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a
 while. I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
  Oy.
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...

2015-06-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Thanks! You and me both. The youngest boy is really missing the car. He's been 
driving his Mom's former 2005 Mazda 6.

Dan

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 On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:29 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 ATTABOY on the 420; 'hope it goes well with the 500.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:26 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] When It Rains, It Pours...
 
 
 Holy mother of pearl, I swear this stuff goes in waves
 
 Oldest boy comes in last night about 7:30:
 
 The battery light on my car (1998 S420) came on. Should I get the battery 
 checked?
 
 I go out and go over the car. All seems well except for the voltage at the 
 battery while the car is running: about 12.25 VDC. Hmm.
 
 I tell him to go get it checked at Advance Auto and report back.
 
 20 minutes later he returns. They checked my battery and said it's good, 
 as he hands me the little thermal paper printout from their diagnostic 
 machine.
 
 I then realize I wasn't specific enough in telling him to have them do a 
 full charging system check, so I climb in the car with him and we go to 
 another Advance Auto nearby (we have two within four miles of the house.)
 
 We get there, they test the system, flat line for alternator output. Bingo! 
 So much for the reman I bought from them and installed on the car back in 
 November of last year, with lifetime warranty, I might add.
 
 So we return to the house and jump in my car, as it's now dark and I don't 
 want to risk it in his car with the headlights on. We then go to the other 
 Advance Auto to get an alternator, which the other store didn't have in 
 stock.
 
 Interestingly, this part number was not the one for the car in their 
 application list, however, it was in November. Not only that, but in 
 November the core was $105! It's now $50. Strange.
 
 We get the alternator, head back to the house, and spend an hour swapping it 
 out. New one works just fine, makes plenty of electricity.
 
 Today the parts for the S500 come in. I only hope I am as lucky with it as 
 we were with the S420. And I hope this is the end of car issues for a while. 
 I'm beginning to feel like a full time mechanic.
 
 Oy.
 
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-03 Thread John Reames
Perhaps, but not much less expensive; the perch includes a piece of frame rail 
and requires something like 40 /structural/ rivets to secure it into the car. 

Plan on an alignment, as everything on that side must be stripped.  

I think I paid $3k for mine. 

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On May 2, 2013, at 22:18, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I suspect that it's a LOT easier to replace spring perches than
 evaporators, though i never had to do either on any of my 124s.
 
 
 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 
 I guess it depends on whether you'd rather have spring perches or
 evaporators made of clay.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-03 Thread clay
That downward slide into korean car design.

I find the dual headlamp reminiscent of the botch job done on very good designs 
by mandating DOT headlamps in the r107 w123, w116, as well as the 1960s S 
series.  

These cars debuted at the peak, or abyss of the quality fiasco at Mercedes.  
Guaranteed failure of multiple systems seems to have been the unintended design 
mandate.  Paint, wiring harness, electronics, and more just not up to snuff.  
The brand began to turn the corner in 2005, from the mistakes made to meet EU 
eco-mandates and employment of turks, instead of Germans to build the cars.  



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On May 2, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

 V
 On May 1, 2013 9:15 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 No more w124.  Not a w210, but
 maybe 190D, though that is small.
 The rest of the 95-05 benz are kind of
 dodgy, so want to stay away from
 those.
 
 
 What's wrong with a 210 (besides that you can't get one with diesel and
 4matic)?  I get the impression from NectarineBits and the MBWorld forums
 that the 210 is kind of the new 124--holding up well in the long term, good
 parts availability, and lots of DIYers to ask for help.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-03 Thread clay
The evap is much the same situation as with all the Benz.  Car is build around 
it.  My indy was willing to do the job, but was upfront that it would be about 
the same as the value of the car and in his opinion, a waste of cash, as the 
windows still work

clay

On May 2, 2013, at 7:18 PM, OK Don wrote:

 I suspect that it's a LOT easier to replace spring perches than
 evaporators, though i never had to do either on any of my 124s.
 
 
 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 
 I guess it depends on whether you'd rather have spring perches or
 evaporators made of clay.
 
 Mitch.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread Michael Canfield
But that would mean doing the job, and more paperwork.

Glad you are not seriously injured!

Mike
On May 2, 2013 12:27 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 She was not.  She had been just diagnosed that morning with skin cancer,
 after trying for a year to get her medicos to see it was not acne.  Coming
 back from the hardware store with tomatoes to plant and too much on her
 mind.  The cars parked along the street went all the way to the corner
 instead of keeping 30 feet back, which blocked both of our sight lines, and
 being dark obscured her advancing on me.  My dark car was equally obscured
 by the same cars.  I was surprised the cop did not make note of that and
 cite those cars for being parked illegally.

 clay



 On May 1, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

  Hire a shyster and have him subpoena her phone records to see if she was
 yapping or texting when she banged into you.
 
  --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
V
On May 1, 2013 9:15 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  No more w124.  Not a w210, but
 maybe 190D, though that is small.
  The rest of the 95-05 benz are kind of
 dodgy, so want to stay away from
 those.


What's wrong with a 210 (besides that you can't get one with diesel and
4matic)?  I get the impression from NectarineBits and the MBWorld forums
that the 210 is kind of the new 124--holding up well in the long term, good
parts availability, and lots of DIYers to ask for help.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread Mitch Haley

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


I get the impression from NectarineBits and the MBWorld forums
that the 210 is kind of the new 124--holding up well in the long term, good
parts availability, and lots of DIYers to ask for help.


I guess it depends on whether you'd rather have spring perches or evaporators 
made of clay.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread John Reames
Rust rust and did I mention rust?

Popping up in between the frame and your upper spring perches, not to mention 
in the middle of panels everywhere. 

Oh and plastic headlamp lenses that are NON replaceable (OE HID are $1100/side 
last I checked!)

And plan on acquiring something like a SDS machine and MUX; the blinky-boxes 
will not work on 210 chassis

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On May 2, 2013, at 16:02, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 V
 On May 1, 2013 9:15 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 No more w124.  Not a w210, but
 maybe 190D, though that is small.
 The rest of the 95-05 benz are kind of
 dodgy, so want to stay away from
 those.
 
 What's wrong with a 210 (besides that you can't get one with diesel and
 4matic)?  I get the impression from NectarineBits and the MBWorld forums
 that the 210 is kind of the new 124--holding up well in the long term, good
 parts availability, and lots of DIYers to ask for help.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The only problem with them is they can get random rust. My 97 has a rust bubble 
in the middle of the passenger front door toward the bottom. It did come from 
Kc originally I believe. My 99 e430 does not have any rust

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2013, at 3:02 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 V
 On May 1, 2013 9:15 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 No more w124.  Not a w210, but
 maybe 190D, though that is small.
 The rest of the 95-05 benz are kind of
 dodgy, so want to stay away from
 those.
 
 What's wrong with a 210 (besides that you can't get one with diesel and
 4matic)?  I get the impression from NectarineBits and the MBWorld forums
 that the 210 is kind of the new 124--holding up well in the long term, good
 parts availability, and lots of DIYers to ask for help.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread OK Don
I suspect that it's a LOT easier to replace spring perches than
evaporators, though i never had to do either on any of my 124s.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


 I guess it depends on whether you'd rather have spring perches or
 evaporators made of clay.

 Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-02 Thread Dieselhead

I'd rather deal with spring perches.

I had a 190Dc that was so rusty from RF shock was about to come 
loose.  I patched in sheet steel with lotsa sheet metal screws. 
Drove it several years that way.  It totalled the pint-o that pulled 
out in from t of it.  I only had to change a tire and wire up the 
front bumper through the rust hole.  Drove it thousands of more miles 
after that.



Evapectomy is NO fun.  Even if you have the time...


I suspect that it's a LOT easier to replace spring perches than
evaporators, though i never had to do either on any of my 124s.


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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I feel your pain, Benz-wise and body-wise.  Have your insurance guy call 
the yard and tell them to take the car to your house or wherever you 
want it.


Call a lawyer to initiate whatever actions might be needed.

--R


On 5/1/13 6:28 PM, clay wrote:

Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not more than a 
block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled intersection and BOOM, some 
dame plows into my left front wheel, spins me 90 degrees.  He suzuki is non op, 
and my wheel is riding wrong and I am leaking fluids from the radiator.

I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to USAA while 
she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze and wants to know why 
I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to yield.  Got the cops there, USAA 
lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my sister to tell her I would not be able to 
get her on Friday when she flies in for the services, told Mom I would need her 
to do that task, I would ride with, and called SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and 
so I left a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let him know he has the only 
working vehicle in the house now.

Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response was, not 
yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big pain in the shoulder, 
numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I called my GP from the accident to schedule a 
look over soonest, even before the pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.

Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I would 
deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his yard, and 
insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover accident towing.  IT 
would be out of pocket right then for it to go to my place.  So I went with his 
story.  USAA says that my coverage will not do that and it should have been at 
home where they could look at it on their time schedule.

Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Craig
On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:28:27 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in
 sacrifice.

Ouch! Sorry to hear of this additional loss.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread WILTON
'Sorry for your vehicle loss, but glad you're reasonably OK; 'hope the 
pain's not because of something really serious.  I wish you and all the 
family well.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: clay redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:28 PM
Subject: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours



Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not more 
than a block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled intersection and 
BOOM, some dame plows into my left front wheel, spins me 90 degrees.  He 
suzuki is non op, and my wheel is riding wrong and I am leaking fluids 
from the radiator.


I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to USAA 
while she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze and wants 
to know why I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to yield.  Got the 
cops there, USAA lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my sister to tell her I 
would not be able to get her on Friday when she flies in for the services, 
told Mom I would need her to do that task, I would ride with, and called 
SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and so I left a message.  Then I called #1 
boy to let him know he has the only working vehicle in the house now.


Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response 
was, not yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big 
pain in the shoulder, numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I called 
my GP from the accident to schedule a look over soonest, even before the 
pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.


Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I 
would deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his yard, 
and insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover accident 
towing.  IT would be out of pocket right then for it to go to my place. 
So I went with his story.  USAA says that my coverage will not do that and 
it should have been at home where they could look at it on their time 
schedule.


Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Benz Hogs

Glad you're ok with just bumps and bruises.

A good friend of mine bike commutes 5 days a week got bumped off the 
front of an Expedition today.  He was on his mountain bike, which is 
built like a tank and still ride-able. He says it's only bumps and 
bruises the injuries which are less than he sustained in Cyclocross 
races last fall.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi)

On 5/1/2013 5:28 PM, clay wrote:

Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not more than a 
block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled intersection and BOOM, some 
dame plows into my left front wheel, spins me 90 degrees.  He suzuki is non op, 
and my wheel is riding wrong and I am leaking fluids from the radiator.

I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to USAA while 
she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze and wants to know why 
I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to yield.  Got the cops there, USAA 
lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my sister to tell her I would not be able to 
get her on Friday when she flies in for the services, told Mom I would need her 
to do that task, I would ride with, and called SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and 
so I left a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let him know he has the only 
working vehicle in the house now.

Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response was, not 
yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big pain in the shoulder, 
numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I called my GP from the accident to schedule a 
look over soonest, even before the pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.

Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I would 
deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his yard, and 
insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover accident towing.  IT 
would be out of pocket right then for it to go to my place.  So I went with his 
story.  USAA says that my coverage will not do that and it should have been at 
home where they could look at it on their time schedule.

Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread clay
I do not think I have plans for salvage title.  I would need to find a decent 
car to drop the engine into.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On May 1, 2013, at 3:28 PM, clay wrote:

 Just back for totalling the E300
 

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Max Dillon
Glad to hear you're merely counted among the wounded!

Other parties insurance should pay for all, including the tow truck trick scam.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not
more than a block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled
intersection and BOOM, some dame plows into my left front wheel, spins
me 90 degrees.  He suzuki is non op, and my wheel is riding wrong and I
am leaking fluids from the radiator.

I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to
USAA while she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze
and wants to know why I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to
yield.  Got the cops there, USAA lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my
sister to tell her I would not be able to get her on Friday when she
flies in for the services, told Mom I would need her to do that task, I
would ride with, and called SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and so I left
a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let him know he has the only
working vehicle in the house now.

Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response
was, not yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big
pain in the shoulder, numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I
called my GP from the accident to schedule a look over soonest, even
before the pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.

Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I
would deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his
yard, and insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover
accident towing.  IT would be out of pocket right then for it to go to
my place.  So I went with his story.  USAA says that my coverage will
not do that and it should have been at home where they could look at it
on their time schedule.

Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in
sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Max Dillon
Also, your neck may get more and more sore, keep taking the meds!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not
more than a block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled
intersection and BOOM, some dame plows into my left front wheel, spins
me 90 degrees.  He suzuki is non op, and my wheel is riding wrong and I
am leaking fluids from the radiator.

I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to
USAA while she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze
and wants to know why I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to
yield.  Got the cops there, USAA lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my
sister to tell her I would not be able to get her on Friday when she
flies in for the services, told Mom I would need her to do that task, I
would ride with, and called SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and so I left
a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let him know he has the only
working vehicle in the house now.

Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response
was, not yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big
pain in the shoulder, numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I
called my GP from the accident to schedule a look over soonest, even
before the pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.

Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I
would deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his
yard, and insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover
accident towing.  IT would be out of pocket right then for it to go to
my place.  So I went with his story.  USAA says that my coverage will
not do that and it should have been at home where they could look at it
on their time schedule.

Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in
sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Max Dillon
Let us know if you plan to part out the car.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

I do not think I have plans for salvage title.  I would need to find a
decent car to drop the engine into.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








On May 1, 2013, at 3:28 PM, clay wrote:

 Just back for totalling the E300
 

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread ernest breakfield
wow, Clay; glad to hear you're not hurt worse, and that you weren't in a 
lesser vehicle!


get yourself checked out properly as soon as practically possible, 
and try to take it easy; your body probably needs a little time to recover.



cheers!
e

On 01/May/13 15:28, clay wrote:

Just back for totalling the E300

I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not more than a 
block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled intersection and BOOM, some 
dame plows into my left front wheel, spins me 90 degrees.  He suzuki is non op, 
and my wheel is riding wrong and I am leaking fluids from the radiator.

I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to USAA while 
she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze and wants to know why 
I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to yield.  Got the cops there, USAA 
lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my sister to tell her I would not be able to 
get her on Friday when she flies in for the services, told Mom I would need her 
to do that task, I would ride with, and called SWMBA.  SWMBA is out of town and 
so I left a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let him know he has the only 
working vehicle in the house now.

Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response was, not 
yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big pain in the shoulder, 
numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I called my GP from the accident to schedule a 
look over soonest, even before the pain.  Until then, I am taking naproxin.

Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I would 
deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his yard, and 
insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover accident towing.  IT 
would be out of pocket right then for it to go to my place.  So I went with his 
story.  USAA says that my coverage will not do that and it should have been at 
home where they could look at it on their time schedule.

Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley

clay wrote:

I do not think I have plans for salvage title.  I would need to find a decent 
car to drop the engine into.


Who was looking for a 606 last month?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Dieselhead



Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.

clay


Get yourself checked out.  Rent a car for a couple days or more. 
Enterprise will deliver.  Bummer.  Hang in there.  Things will get 
better.


Glad you were not in a lesser vehicle.  (Friends don't let friends 
drive toadas.)


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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Hire a shyster and have him subpoena her phone records to see if she was 
yapping or texting when she banged into you.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread clay
Earliest my medico could see me was before lunch Thursday.  Then I think he 
goes to golf.  I will stay soaking in the tub full of ice to keep the swelling 
down


On May 1, 2013, at 5:15 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:

 wow, Clay; glad to hear you're not hurt worse, and that you weren't in a 
 lesser vehicle!
 
get yourself checked out properly as soon as practically possible, and try 
 to take it easy; your body probably needs a little time to recover.
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 On 01/May/13 15:28, clay wrote:
 Just back for totalling the E300
 
 I took a package to the local post office and was headed home.  Not more 
 than a block past the post office I enter an uncontrolled intersection and 
 BOOM, some dame plows into my left front wheel, spins me 90 degrees.  He 
 suzuki is non op, and my wheel is riding wrong and I am leaking fluids from 
 the radiator.
 
 I jump out, grab my paperwork and call 911, then get on the horn to USAA 
 while she, you knew it had to be a dame,  comes out of her daze and wants to 
 know why I hit her?   Told her it was her failure to yield.  Got the cops 
 there, USAA lined up, AAA for a tow, and call my sister to tell her I would 
 not be able to get her on Friday when she flies in for the services, told 
 Mom I would need her to do that task, I would ride with, and called SWMBA.  
 SWMBA is out of town and so I left a message.  Then I called #1 boy to let 
 him know he has the only working vehicle in the house now.
 
 Everybody on the phone wanted to know if anybody was hurt.  My response was, 
 not yet because how can you tell right off?  Now I am having big pain in 
 the shoulder, numb arm and hands and neck is throbbing.  I called my GP from 
 the accident to schedule a look over soonest, even before the pain.  Until 
 then, I am taking naproxin.
 
 Tow driver pulled a scam on me.  I just wanted the car to go home and I 
 would deal with it later.  He convinced me that it should go to his yard, 
 and insurance would pay for it all because AAA does not cover accident 
 towing.  IT would be out of pocket right then for it to go to my place.  So 
 I went with his story.  USAA says that my coverage will not do that and it 
 should have been at home where they could look at it on their time schedule.
 
 Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.
 
 clay
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread clay
I am now seeing some nice S series that have an issue or two.  My engine and 
trans are good, as is the rest of the car, but for the driver side wheel area.  
Probably could get the shop to rebuild suspension, but the rest of the unibody 
is messed up, so parts car anyway.

clay

On May 1, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

 clay wrote:
 I do not think I have plans for salvage title.  I would need to find a 
 decent car to drop the engine into.
 
 Who was looking for a 606 last month?
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread clay
Yeah, I think I stay away from driving for a few more days.  Death in the 
family is one of those big stress items that tend to result in increases in 
accidents and injuries.  Also going to keep clear of cooking and knives, power 
tools, screw drivers and electric wires.  Just until the stink of life mellows.

I have been scanning CL for possible replacement rides.  Thought about a Lexus 
or other SUV thing so I can keep going to the PnP.  Next idea was w123 or 126 
in diesel.  W116 is just too old.  No more w124.  Not a w210, but maybe 190D, 
though that is small.  The rest of the 95-05 benz are kind of dodgy, so want to 
stay away from those.

clay

On May 1, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

 
 
 Either way, another benz saved another life and gave itself in sacrifice.
 
 clay
 
 Get yourself checked out.  Rent a car for a couple days or more. Enterprise 
 will deliver.  Bummer.  Hang in there.  Things will get better.
 
 Glad you were not in a lesser vehicle.  (Friends don't let friends drive 
 toadas.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it Rains, it Pours

2013-05-01 Thread clay
She was not.  She had been just diagnosed that morning with skin cancer, after 
trying for a year to get her medicos to see it was not acne.  Coming back from 
the hardware store with tomatoes to plant and too much on her mind.  The cars 
parked along the street went all the way to the corner instead of keeping 30 
feet back, which blocked both of our sight lines, and being dark obscured her 
advancing on me.  My dark car was equally obscured by the same cars.  I was 
surprised the cop did not make note of that and cite those cars for being 
parked illegally.

clay



On May 1, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 Hire a shyster and have him subpoena her phone records to see if she was 
 yapping or texting when she banged into you.
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours (Donald Snook)

2009-09-10 Thread Donald Snook
A big shout out to Peter Hertzing for helping diagnose the problem the problem 
on my wife's car.  He suggested the idle air control motor/valve and that was 
indeed the problem.  I was working on her car in the dark parking lot of her 
office with nothing but the glow from my I-Phone to illuminate the engine.  
Peter made some great suggestions.  I bought the part, but could not put it on. 
 I had to have the car towed, and when it came off the truck it started and ran 
fine. But, I had my indy put the part on.  When he got the old one off, it was 
definitely gunked up and filthy and the valve was sticking.   So, I am 
confident that fixed the problem.

Thanks to this Mercedes list member who helped me diagnose a problem on a Ford. 
 This really is a great group!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours (Donald Snook)

2009-09-10 Thread R A Bennell
Any idea if this is something that could have been avoided by cleaning? I have 
an F-150 Supercrew that likely has
similar stuff under the hood. No problems so far but would like to keep it that 
way.

Randy

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A big shout out to Peter Hertzing for helping diagnose the problem the problem 
on my wife's car.  He suggested the
idle air control motor/valve and that was indeed the problem.  I was working on 
her car in the dark parking lot of
her office with nothing but the glow from my I-Phone to illuminate the engine.  
Peter made some great suggestions.
I bought the part, but could not put it on.  I had to have the car towed, and 
when it came off the truck it started
and ran fine. But, I had my indy put the part on.  When he got the old one off, 
it was definitely gunked up and
filthy and the valve was sticking.   So, I am confident that fixed the problem.

Thanks to this Mercedes list member who helped me diagnose a problem on a Ford. 
 This really is a great group!

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2009-09-10 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: Any idea if this is something that could have been avoided by 
cleaning? I have an F-150 Supercrew that likely has similar stuff under the 
hood. No problems so far but would like to keep it that way.

Yes, you can clean them.  I don't know whether a diesel has one of these.  But, 
on the 5.4L engine, it is VERY difficult to get it out, so if I was going to 
have pay labor to get it out and cleaned, I figured it was better to replace 
it.  It was original and the vehicle has 140,000 miles on it.


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2009-09-10 Thread R A Bennell
OK, my truck is a 5.4 and it has about 125K miles so might be upcoming. Where 
is this thing? What did the new one
cost?

Randy

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Randy wrote: Any idea if this is something that could have been avoided by 
cleaning? I have an F-150 Supercrew
that likely has similar stuff under the hood. No problems so far but would like 
to keep it that way.

Yes, you can clean them.  I don't know whether a diesel has one of these.  But, 
on the 5.4L engine, it is VERY
difficult to get it out, so if I was going to have pay labor to get it out and 
cleaned, I figured it was better to
replace it.  It was original and the vehicle has 140,000 miles on it.


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2009-09-10 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: OK, my truck is a 5.4 and it has about 125K miles so might be 
upcoming. Where is this thing? What did the new one cost?

I bought the aftermarket Borg Warner variety (lifetime warranty) and it was 
$51.  I don't know how much the Motorcraft part would be. On mine, it was 
located under the cowl overhang (you have to approach it from the left of the 
intake and reach to the back of the engine bay and on top.  It looks like a 
booger and I couldn't figure out how to get the bottom bolt off of it.  It is 
only two bolts, a gasket and electrical connector.  So, if you can get to it, 
its not a problem.


Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2009-09-08 Thread Barry Stark
Don -
My Daughter's Exploder once did something like that. The idle speed solenoid
had gone belly up. That doesn't account for the fuel smell though.

Barry

 
 My wife's expedition stay running.  It will start if I give it gas and
 keep the Rpms up, but when i let up on the gas it dies and I can smell
 gas. Any ideas?I am on digest so email me directly.



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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours: broken sway bar bracket, now sunroof woe, what is next?

2008-05-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Note to all:
When the sunroof starts acting up, quit using the popup feature!

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours: broken sway bar bracket, now sunroof woe, what is next?

2008-05-23 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN Charleston SC J63
Mitch Haley wrote:
Note to all:
When the sunroof starts acting up, quit using the popup feature!

Mitch.

Amen, I'm about to become an expert on the dreaded 124 sunroof.  I really hope 
I can figure out how to get it apart now that it won't retract.  I also hope it 
doesn't rain too much...

I REALLY hope I can just get it back flat/sealed, then disconnect the switch 
until I find time to fix it.

However, hope is not a plan.  Anyone have Dave M's number?

Max Dillon, digest lurker since 2001

'87 300TD, 308k miles

Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours: broken sway bar bracket, now sunroof woe, what is next?

2008-05-23 Thread R A Bennell
Chunk of metal, preferably from an old microwave oven (ala Jim Cathey (sp??)) 
and a MIG welder. No more sunroof
problems.

Randy

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Subject: [MBZ] When it rains it pours: broken sway bar bracket,now
sunroof woe, what is next?


I may need to change my approach from the 'cheap Mercedes' route to the 
'reliable Mercedes' route, as this $3000
ebay car (white/blue '87 300TD) needs plenty of TLC but the time simply isn't 
there.

Several months ago, a dramatic increase in oil consumption accompanied by 
sudden appearance of lifter tick at front
of engine led me to believe that the head gasket blew-out at front oil passage. 
 Decided to find a used head (#17
or better) to replace mine when I pulled it to replace the gasket.  Found a #14 
only 20 miles away for $200 and
took the gamble, but it had cracks (which cost me $50 to have a machine shop 
find, which I gladly paid and returned
the head for refund).  Meanwhile, oil consumption is normal again (qt per 3000 
or more miles), lifter tick is
greatly reduced, and engine oil analysis shows no sign of coolant, very low 
wear metals and 'light' soot after 4500
miles of use.  So, I'll keep driving until evidence of a problem appears.  Idle 
is very smooth and engine makes
very little smoke.

On Wednesday morning, front right sway bar bracket broke.  Looks pretty easy, 
ordered the parts from Rusty, should
have time to install this weekend.

Roughly a month ago, the sunroof started making noise when the pop-up feature 
was employed, and then I found that
back left corner was slower to come flat that the right.  Note to self: time to 
clean/lube the sunroof (note was
ignored, too many other high priority items...)  So now I'll suffer for it, as 
two days ago it made a pop during
the lowering phase, and now the back left corner stays up about 0.5 inches 
while the right side is is down lower
than normal (in the 'flat' position).  Time to employ Dave M's 124 sunroof 
repair tutorial...  Anyone have the
special tools that they'd like to rent or sell?

Really wish I hadn't sold that '84 190D with 5 speed, complete records and only 
112k miles (got $5200 for it and
told the fellow that I'd probably regret selling later, and now I do...).

Happy Friday!

Max Dillon, '87 300TD w/ 308k miles, Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours: broken sway bar bracket, now sunroof woe, what is next?

2008-05-23 Thread Jim Cathey
 Chunk of metal, preferably from an old microwave oven (ala Jim Cathey 
 (sp??)) and a MIG welder. No more sunroof problems.

Ha!  And what's wrong with that nice perfectly-sized piece of
metal that is already in the hole?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-02 Thread Kevin Kraly
the thought of putting the poor
kids to work in the back yard pulling parts passed through the mind of more 
than just Wonko.

And you would be right although in my case, it was Hand me that 12mm socket 
with a 6 extension so I don't have to crawl back under there and orient 
myself to the task at hand once again.  Seriously, this must be a terrible 
situation for them.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-01 Thread Bill
Another way to look at it is that one child takes all your time.  How much
more of it can the others take?  We said that often raising our 4  [5 year
age spread from 1st to last].  It does make a difference thinking of going
places, though: 7 tickets, 7 meals, etc.  I would not part with any of them
now [24,26,27, 29 yr olds with 5 grandkids], though there were times when
they were teenagers 
Best of luck if you do.
BillR
 

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That will put me at 5 kids!!  I dont know about that.

---
Kaleb C. Striplin
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730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-01 Thread Mitch Haley


Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 
 Hmmnh, guess that's modern law enforcement, once upon a time he would
 have been remanded in custody until it was proven to be an unfortunate
 accident.

Nowadays we reserve that treatment for people who shoot armed home
invaders and claim it was self defense.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-01 Thread Mitch Haley


OK Don wrote:
 Integrating traumatized kids into another family could be challenging
 at times I imagine.

And the remedial education can really be something. At least the one
we had in our family went to normal school some of the time until she
was eight, so she could already read when the state warehoused her for
five years and didn't try to teach her much beyond 'please don't assault
the orderlies' (a lesson she did not always take to heart). This summer
she got in a big fight with my niece and ended up in a mental hospital
and the adoption got unwound. 

We let her court appointed attorney know that my niece, who was not a
gifted academic performer herself, raised the girl four grade levels
by homeschooling her for the year they were together. Hopefully the
lawyer will make sure they don't just warehouse the girl until she's 18.
She's smart, has had a hard life, and learned that it's safer to show
aggression than weakness in some situations. She just can't always
identify when it's not appropriate to use jungle rules. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-01 Thread LarryT
Duh, sorry -

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 No, its my wifes sister.

 LarryT wrote:
 Hi Kaleb,
 Very sorry to hear of your loss.  They say problems come in 3's  - 
 looks
 like it's true.
 When you said your SIL was murdered by her husband, doesn't that make her
 husband your brother?  Or am I misreading something??

 Gotta go before something else happens.

 Or I guess maybe your SIL
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-12-01 Thread Redghost
Not to be a jerk, but I am sure that the thought of putting the poor  
kids to work in the back yard pulling parts passed through the mind  
of more than just Wonko.  I thought it and then thought better of  
posting, since I do not know Regina well enough to crack remarks like  
that with impunity.  If was humorous and introduced a bit of levity  
into a very dark situation.  I am sure Kaleb and Regina would  
lovingly open their home and hearts to their niece and nephews.  In  
time, the kids may grow up looking forward to forays into the yard to  
assist uncle K'leb with his hobby.

clay



On 30 Nov 2007, at 21:58, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 Well if you think child abuse is funny, then so be it.
 Child abuse comes in many forms and depriving a child of an  
 education is
 one of them. Then suggesting that the child be exploited by  
 teaching the
 child to remove parts from cars is not my idea of humour. The sad part
 is that in many parts of the world this is the case.
 Perhaps in future you can send Kaleb a private email with your  
 'humor',
 so the rest of us don't have to have an insight into your way of  
 looking
 at the world.
 I better stop now because I am working myself into a rather bad  
 mood and
 when I get in a bad mood I say things I may not ordinarily say.
 All I can hope for that some good comes of this hell the kids went  
 through.

 Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Hendrik:

 I was going to let that one pass w/out reply but have decided to  
 not do so.

 Humor is an excellent tool in helping to de-escalate tense  
 situations. It is
 a good tool for dealing with grief -- something that the list is  
 dealing
 with on several fronts.

 If Kaleb and Regina were only names on my email list, I wouldn't  
 be so bold
 as to try to defuse the tension with humor. Fortunately, I know  
 Kaleb and
 Regina well enough, and they know me well enough, that I can say  
 what I said
 and know that it will make Kaleb (and probably Regina) have a  
 moment of
 chuckle in the midst of unspeakable grief.

 This has been a bad week for all of us. We've lost Marshall and I am
 honestly still trying to come to grips with that. I was one of a  
 handful
 with whom he shared how bad things were and the prognosis. Regina  
 has had a
 tragedy, and I know enough of the background to somewhat  
 understand. On top
 of that, I lost one of my consumers (lost as in she died, not
 lost as in she wandered away from staff and we can't find her)  
 on Wednesday.


 So ... I honestly believe that humor can go a long way toward  
 fixing things.
 I've used it to de-escalate psychotic consumers. I've used it to  
 make MR
 consumers know that it isn't socially appropriate to do X, when he/ 
 she sees
 nothing wrong with doing X.

 I can understand that from a distance you might think what I said  
 was not
 appropritate. Fortunately, I think given the facts (especially  
 regarding
 Kaleb and his hobby) and my relation with Kaleb/Regina, it was  
 in good
 taste.

 Of course, I am sometimes wrong and I have an ex to prove it!   :-)

 Don





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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
Were they home schooled? Or just no schooled?


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I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.  That tells you what kind of people we are talking about there.  Not
 sure how old the other 2 are.  2 girls and a boy.

 ---
 Kaleb C. Striplin
 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

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 Ages?/Genders?

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 I dont know yet. I think they might have some in California.

 ---
 Kaleb C. Striplin
 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

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 Isn't there any family that would take these children in?


 Dave H...

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 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:

 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.

 Is there anybody in OK who wants to take them?

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?

On Nov 30, 2007 2:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.




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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
yes

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- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.  That tells you what kind of people we are talking about there.
 
 And the mother is 25??
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread MG
Sorry to hear about your sister in law. As for the kids, Don't worry be 
happy. More kids kind of take care of each other if you work it right. I 
made it through 4 and they are all girls. I still have most of my mind.

Manfred
well some of it anyway.


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That will put me at 5 kids!!  I dont know about that.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
I really don't think this is an situation where humor is welcome.
The only really good thing to come out of this is that the a***hole did 
not shoot the kids.

Hendrik
who finds it hard sometimes not to judge others and the way they lead 
their lives

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?

 On Nov 30, 2007 2:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.

 



   

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
Actually, I did lose one briefly at the Iowa State Fair a couple of years
ago. The paperwork for that (if I had not found him) is really ugly!

Hey, he is his own guardian and he wanted to join the carnival, so  

On 11/30/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can see you losing a consumer the other way.


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Hmmnh, guess that's modern law enforcement, once upon a time he would 
have been remanded in custody until it was proven to be an unfortunate 
accident.

Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 let him go.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
Hendrik:

I was going to let that one pass w/out reply but have decided to not do so.

Humor is an excellent tool in helping to de-escalate tense situations. It is
a good tool for dealing with grief -- something that the list is dealing
with on several fronts.

If Kaleb and Regina were only names on my email list, I wouldn't be so bold
as to try to defuse the tension with humor. Fortunately, I know Kaleb and
Regina well enough, and they know me well enough, that I can say what I said
and know that it will make Kaleb (and probably Regina) have a moment of
chuckle in the midst of unspeakable grief.

This has been a bad week for all of us. We've lost Marshall and I am
honestly still trying to come to grips with that. I was one of a handful
with whom he shared how bad things were and the prognosis. Regina has had a
tragedy, and I know enough of the background to somewhat understand. On top
of that, I lost one of my consumers (lost as in she died, not
lost as in she wandered away from staff and we can't find her) on Wednesday.


So ... I honestly believe that humor can go a long way toward fixing things.
I've used it to de-escalate psychotic consumers. I've used it to make MR
consumers know that it isn't socially appropriate to do X, when he/she sees
nothing wrong with doing X.

I can understand that from a distance you might think what I said was not
appropritate. Fortunately, I think given the facts (especially regarding
Kaleb and his hobby) and my relation with Kaleb/Regina, it was in good
taste.

Of course, I am sometimes wrong and I have an ex to prove it!   :-)

Don



On 11/30/07, Hendrik  Fay  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I really don't think this is an situation where humor is welcome.


Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
You betcha. Even in central Maine (the area with which I am familiar).

On 11/30/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You know if he was out and about, Maine has lots of really remote
 wilderness, a guy could lose himself up there really easily if he wanted
 to get away.


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Peter Frederick
And I thought I had it bad when someone tried (and failed) to commit 
vehicular homicide by inattention on me!

What a bummer!  I'm always amazed at the things people can do to each 
other, usually without any thought of the consequences to their 
relatives.  My sincere condolences, this cannot be easy.

By all means, take the children in.  They will need a functional home, 
and while it may be crowded and possibly rather difficult (they did 
just see their mother murdered after all -- expect some problems now 
and in the future) they will be better off with you that anywhere else, 
particularly foster care.

I shared a bedroom until I got a single room in the college dorm at 20, 
this isn't a horrible thing.  I think I'm better for it, anyway, one 
learns to live with other people and share more that way.  All of us 
did fine -- two PhDs, two Masters, and an associates degree amongst the 
five of us.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I can see you losing a consumer the other way.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Hendrik:
 
 I was going to let that one pass w/out reply but have decided to not do so.
 
 Humor is an excellent tool in helping to de-escalate tense situations. It is
 a good tool for dealing with grief -- something that the list is dealing
 with on several fronts.
 
 If Kaleb and Regina were only names on my email list, I wouldn't be so bold
 as to try to defuse the tension with humor. Fortunately, I know Kaleb and
 Regina well enough, and they know me well enough, that I can say what I said
 and know that it will make Kaleb (and probably Regina) have a moment of
 chuckle in the midst of unspeakable grief.
 
 This has been a bad week for all of us. We've lost Marshall and I am
 honestly still trying to come to grips with that. I was one of a handful
 with whom he shared how bad things were and the prognosis. Regina has had a
 tragedy, and I know enough of the background to somewhat understand. On top
 of that, I lost one of my consumers (lost as in she died, not
 lost as in she wandered away from staff and we can't find her) on Wednesday.
 
 
 So ... I honestly believe that humor can go a long way toward fixing things.
 I've used it to de-escalate psychotic consumers. I've used it to make MR
 consumers know that it isn't socially appropriate to do X, when he/she sees
 nothing wrong with doing X.
 
 I can understand that from a distance you might think what I said was not
 appropritate. Fortunately, I think given the facts (especially regarding
 Kaleb and his hobby) and my relation with Kaleb/Regina, it was in good
 taste.
 
 Of course, I am sometimes wrong and I have an ex to prove it!   :-)
 
 Don


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread LarryT
Hi Kaleb,
Very sorry to hear of your loss.  They say problems come in 3's  - looks 
like it's true.
When you said your SIL was murdered by her husband, doesn't that make her 
husband your brother?  Or am I misreading something??

Gotta go before something else happens.

Or I guess maybe your SIL
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- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Yesterday, first find out about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call 
 in the middle of the night that my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her 
 husband shot her (with the kids there) and left her to bleed to death.

 http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=157181zoneid=586

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Rich Thomas
You know if he was out and about, Maine has lots of really remote 
wilderness, a guy could lose himself up there really easily if he wanted 
to get away.

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 OK, my info was not correct.  That was from my father in law who said 
 they let him go.  They just told him that because the FIL is out to kill 
 the son in law.  He is actually being held in arcadia up there, some 
 sort of mental institution.  So that is a relief.

   


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, my info was not correct.  That was from my father in law who said 
they let him go.  They just told him that because the FIL is out to kill 
the son in law.  He is actually being held in arcadia up there, some 
sort of mental institution.  So that is a relief.

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 Hmmnh, guess that's modern law enforcement, once upon a time he would 
 have been remanded in custody until it was proven to be an unfortunate 
 accident.
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 let him go.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That is actually very surprising, I would have thought he would have. 
He is the type.  If it gets those kids out of that situation, its sad to 
say its probably the best thing that ever happened to them.

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 I really don't think this is an situation where humor is welcome.
 The only really good thing to come out of this is that the a***hole did 
 not shoot the kids.
 
 Hendrik
 who finds it hard sometimes not to judge others and the way they lead 
 their lives
 
 Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?

 On Nov 30, 2007 2:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.

 


   
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, its my wifes sister.

LarryT wrote:
 Hi Kaleb,
 Very sorry to hear of your loss.  They say problems come in 3's  - looks 
 like it's true.
 When you said your SIL was murdered by her husband, doesn't that make her 
 husband your brother?  Or am I misreading something??
 
 Gotta go before something else happens.
 
 Or I guess maybe your SIL
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread OK Don
Someone said these things happen in threes -- well, Evel Knievel died
today. Maybe that's the end of it for now --   (wishful thinking).


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
What? Let YOU go?

On Nov 30, 2007 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So the cops let me go till they investigate to determine if it was or not.




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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
hahaha, perhaps.

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- Original Message - 
From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Can she be taught to pull Benz parts for sale on eBay?

 On Nov 30, 2007 2:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.




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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Bill
That is a tough one. You have friends thinking of you and your family.
BillR 

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT)
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Subject: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

Yesterday, first find out about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call in
the middle of the night that my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her
husband shot her (with the kids there) and left her to bleed to death.

http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=157181zoneid=586

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley


Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.  That tells you what kind of people we are talking about there.

And the mother is 25??

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
You can. You will. You have to.


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- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Well, we are it.  I dont know if we can take them.
 
 ---
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 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
 
 
 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.
 
 Is there anybody in OK who wants to take them?
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Rentfro
Be careful.and you know what I mean Kaleb.

This is a very emotional time.

Bob R.

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yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them. 
Nobody up there can really take them.

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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Gosh, sorry to hear about that. Regina's sister? That's really sad.

 Chrs



 Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, 
 first find out about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call in the 
 middle of the night that my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her husband 
 shot her (with the kids there) and left her to bleed to death.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
no schooled  Apparantly, he shot her in the shoulder, then shot her in the 
head.  He is saying it was an accident.  How the hell is that an accident? 
So the cops let me go till they investigate to determine if it was or not.

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 Were they home schooled? Or just no schooled?


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her 
life.  That tells you what kind of people we are talking about there.  Not 
sure how old the other 2 are.  2 girls and a boy.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Ages?/Genders?

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 I dont know yet. I think they might have some in California.

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 Isn't there any family that would take these children in?


 Dave H...

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 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Dave H...
Ages?/Genders?

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

 I dont know yet. I think they might have some in California.  
 
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 Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 2:44 PM
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 Isn't there any family that would take these children in?
 
 
 Dave H...
 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
 
 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.
 
 Is there anybody in OK who wants to take them?
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I dont know yet. I think they might have some in California.  

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Isn't there any family that would take these children in?
 
 
 Dave H...
 
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours
 
 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Mitch Haley


Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.

Is there anybody in OK who wants to take them?

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Christopher McCann
Gosh, sorry to hear about that. Regina's sister? That's really sad.

Chrs



Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, first find out 
about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call in the middle of the night that 
my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her husband shot her (with the kids there) 
and left her to bleed to death.

http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=157181zoneid=586

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:49:58 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday, first find out about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call
 in the middle of the night that my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her
 husband shot her (with the kids there) and left her to bleed to death.
 
 http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=157181zoneid=586

Shirley and I are really sorry to hear of this situation, Kaleb. We've
been praying for you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well if you think child abuse is funny, then so be it.
Child abuse comes in many forms and depriving a child of an education is 
one of them. Then suggesting that the child be exploited by teaching the 
child to remove parts from cars is not my idea of humour. The sad part 
is that in many parts of the world this is the case.
Perhaps in future you can send Kaleb a private email with your 'humor', 
so the rest of us don't have to have an insight into your way of looking 
at the world.
I better stop now because I am working myself into a rather bad mood and 
when I get in a bad mood I say things I may not ordinarily say.
All I can hope for that some good comes of this hell the kids went through.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 Hendrik:

 I was going to let that one pass w/out reply but have decided to not do so.

 Humor is an excellent tool in helping to de-escalate tense situations. It is
 a good tool for dealing with grief -- something that the list is dealing
 with on several fronts.

 If Kaleb and Regina were only names on my email list, I wouldn't be so bold
 as to try to defuse the tension with humor. Fortunately, I know Kaleb and
 Regina well enough, and they know me well enough, that I can say what I said
 and know that it will make Kaleb (and probably Regina) have a moment of
 chuckle in the midst of unspeakable grief.

 This has been a bad week for all of us. We've lost Marshall and I am
 honestly still trying to come to grips with that. I was one of a handful
 with whom he shared how bad things were and the prognosis. Regina has had a
 tragedy, and I know enough of the background to somewhat understand. On top
 of that, I lost one of my consumers (lost as in she died, not
 lost as in she wandered away from staff and we can't find her) on Wednesday.


 So ... I honestly believe that humor can go a long way toward fixing things.
 I've used it to de-escalate psychotic consumers. I've used it to make MR
 consumers know that it isn't socially appropriate to do X, when he/she sees
 nothing wrong with doing X.

 I can understand that from a distance you might think what I said was not
 appropritate. Fortunately, I think given the facts (especially regarding
 Kaleb and his hobby) and my relation with Kaleb/Regina, it was in good
 taste.

 Of course, I am sometimes wrong and I have an ex to prove it!   :-)

 Don

   

   

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
You can do it.


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 That will put me at 5 kids!!  I dont know about that.
 
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 You can. You will. You have to.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Dave H...
Isn't there any family that would take these children in?


Dave H...

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 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.
 
 Is there anybody in OK who wants to take them?
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Rich Thomas
That is really rough, a very difficult thing to have happen.  I fell 
badly for y'all.  The children need some immediate help, whatever can be 
done for them. 

Good thoughts out to all involved.

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them. 
Nobody up there can really take them.

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Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours


 Gosh, sorry to hear about that. Regina's sister? That's really sad.

 Chrs



 Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday, 
 first find out about Marshall.  Then last night we get a call in the 
 middle of the night that my sister in law has been Murdered.  Her husband 
 shot her (with the kids there) and left her to bleed to death.

 http://bangornews.com/news/t/news.aspx?articleid=157181zoneid=586

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Well, we are it.  I dont know if we can take them.

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 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 yea, it sucks.  They have 3 kids, dont know what will happen to them.
 Nobody up there can really take them.
 
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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
The mother also does not have even a high school education.  Im sure at 
least the husband was doped up on something when it went down.  Although now 
they tell me that this sister has been telling people that her husband had 
been threatening to kill her for a while.

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 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:

 I know the oldest is 9, and has never set foot in a school a day in her
 life.  That tells you what kind of people we are talking about there.

 And the mother is 25??

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Dave H...
That's pretty darn ridiculous!

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 no schooled  Apparantly, he shot her in the shoulder, then shot her in the
 head.  He is saying it was an accident.  How the hell is that an accident?
 So the cops let me go till they investigate to determine if it was or not.

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 Were they home schooled? Or just no schooled?


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
let him go.

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- Original Message - 
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 What? Let YOU go?

 On Nov 30, 2007 3:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:


 So the cops let me go till they investigate to determine if it was or 
 not.




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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
He will run, I dont see him sticking around.

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 That's pretty darn ridiculous!
 


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread OK Don
I grew up with four siblings, in houses smaller than yours - of
course, how well we turned out is subject to debate, but it can
certainly be done. Each kid does NOT need their own room.
Integrating traumatized kids into another family could be challenging
at times I imagine.

On Nov 30, 2007 2:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That will put me at 5 kids!!  I dont know about that.


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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:28:45 +1030 Hendrik  Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Well if you think child abuse is funny, then so be it.

No, he does not, and neither do the rest of us who saw his comment as he
intended.


 I better stop now because I am working myself into a rather bad mood and
 when I get in a bad mood I say things I may not ordinarily say.

Good idea.


 All I can hope for that some good comes of this hell the kids went
 through.

Amen!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] When it rains it pours

2007-11-30 Thread Allan Streib

On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:58 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 Child abuse comes in many forms and depriving a child of an  
 education is
 one of them. Then suggesting that the child be exploited by  
 teaching the
 child to remove parts from cars is not my idea of humour. The sad part
 is that in many parts of the world this is the case.

Outrageous statements are certainly used in humor and are the  
cornerstone of satire.  I think you are overreacting here.  Don is  
certainly not trying to condone how these kids have apparently been  
raised or make light of this latest terrible episode.

Allan

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