Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-17 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
The only thing the Solex 4A1 can do well is ingest a large moth with aplomb. My father was trying (in vain) to get his 280C working one evening in SoCal ca. 1982 or so when the aforementioned moth came over, attracted by the worklight. THWOOOP! A few seconds later, a little cloud of moth scales

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
javascript:; To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com javascript:; Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8.  (but not as desirable as an OM 603!) 6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9! ___ http

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
javascript:; Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8. (but not as desirable as an OM 603

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What? Mercedes made a sorry engine??? A carbureted engine should be relatively easy to modify, remove the smog controls, get the power back, etc. Install a couple of Webers, or a Holley . . . Of course, replacing the engine with an OM603 would be best! On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Jaime

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Another possible home for that Euro M117 5.0 engine? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wonder what is involved in converting a 110 to fuel injected? Not that I would want to. I do have a injected 110 sitting on the shelf in the shop

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It's a U.S. Spec carb'ed M110. A pretty sorry combination. Jaime An OM603 will fix that! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
That one is carbureted though (280S) wouldn't that make it less desirable? -Curt Well, like I said, put an OM 603 or a late model Euro twin cam 6 gasser. THat late euro engine would be FI. FOr some, carbs are ok. I don't like either, but a Euro carb engine could work. Buy some webers.

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
That 4 barrel Solex is a junker. Even Solex couldn't make it work on a Benz engine, they were dogs from A to Z. Nothing desireable in any way, shape or form. Many were convered to D-jet or K-Jet, vastly easier and much more reliable. Fuel milage was terrible -- the small sedan got 12,

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Wonder what is involved in converting a 110 to fuel injected? Not that I would want to. I do have a injected 110 sitting on the shelf in the shop Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That 4 barrel Solex is a junker.

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Find a wrecked AMG and drop something in there --R On 8/16/15 2:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: What? Mercedes made a sorry engine??? A carbureted engine should be relatively easy to modify, remove the smog controls, get the power back, etc. Install a couple of Webers, or a Holley . . . Of

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Zeniths were a pleasure to work with compared to the Solex 4A1. It is a nightmare of a carburetor, guaranteed to run poorly even when working at it’s best, and offering really lousy fuel economy. The M130 in the former W123 LWB had one. I tore it off and did a Holley 5200 conversion.

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
A Holley of any sort would be an improvement. My buddy Hans had to deal with them all the time in Germany, said they were horrible, even the factory tech couldn't get them right. The M110 wasn't bad itself, other than being rather fuel hungry and terribly noisy due to solid lifters. More

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Intake manifold and associated FI parts. I'd not bother with the D- Jet, impossible to find parts by now and that one requires the correct distributor, probably like finding hen's teeth forty years after they stopped production. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Actually, a late Euro 280 (is it M110?) would be substantially better, and in my opinion, more desirable than a V-8. (but not as desirable as an OM 603!) 6.9 excepted, but this is NOT a 6.9! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2015 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape 'Cos they don't get driven? -MMM- On Sat, Aug

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
'Cos they don't get driven? -MMM- On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1976 Mercedes Benz 280S http://fayar.craigslist.org/cto/5155422297.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice Android:

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
'Cos they don't get driven? -MMM- On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Even has the charcoal canister, and probably an air pump anti smog crap,, along with the yorkie compressor. Great chassis to put an OM603 or 606 in.

Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are crappy undesirable cars always in great shape 'Cos they don't get driven? -MMM- On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Even has the charcoal canister, and probably an air pump anti smog crap,, along