Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
An ill woodwind that nobody blows good. ;-) -MMM- On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It lost the rear swing axels? Close! It [Buffet clarinet] gained a polycylindrical bore in 1955. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
This proves that poos is a moron and does not know what he is talking about. Those were the best vehicle years. The under hood 450 cat is the best thing ever. I am working on a plan to retrofit that into older and newer cars. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Dan Penoff via

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm talking about domestic cars, not MBs. But since you brought it up As for the 450SLs, those things were total nightmares. I've seen tons of them here in Floridia, and every one of them has a cooked engine compartment from those cats. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2015, at 10:24

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I feel like the American car builders could have suffered through the malaise era if build quality had been decent but considering the truly awful build quality of the time its no surprise people looked to the east.Also considering what crappy cars asia was producing if the Americans had kept

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I wrenched heavily at this time and saw the worst of the pollution controlled, poorly built American iron. It was gawdawful stuff and you could tell the engineers were flying by the seats of their pants. 1974-5 were probably the worst years, in my opinion. Just horrible in so many ways. Dan

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
It was the beginning of the end for merkun iron too. 1968 cars had rudimentary smog crap hung on em. By 1974, merkun iron was fully smothered and were total crap. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The most amazing car I ever owned was a 1950 DeSoto with the semi-automatic transmission. It had a clutch but was impossible to stall when stopping using brake only (break, if you prefer). I bought TWO cars in sequential years in Boston and Minneapolis, for a grand total of $100 and sold them

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://www.npr.org/2015/08/20/433010969/sales-of-convertibles-are-decelerating-blame-the-fuel-economy Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Interesting, I have not heard that in the auto biz Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The cats were under the hood in only the '75 and '76 models - On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: As for the 450SLs, those things were total nightmares. I've seen tons of them here in Floridia, and every one of them has a cooked engine

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Correct. And why, I don't know, but there are tons of 75s around here. They used to be cheap as wine, but now people seem to think they're valuable. Interesting story on All Things Considered yesterday about how convertibles are going away, and how most manufacturers are getting out of making

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Interesting, I have not heard that in the auto biz Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Correct. And why, I don't know, but there are tons of 75s around here. They used to be cheap as wine, but now people seem to think

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-20 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
It lost the rear swing axels? Close! It [Buffet clarinet] gained a polycylindrical bore in 1955. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-20 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
1968 saw the introduction of the new sedans -- ball joints and double joint rear axles instead of the 1952 king pin front end and swing axles in the back (and they DO jack, just like a Corvair, but they don't flip the car over. Included were anti-dive front end geometry and greatly reduce

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-20 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Ah, it all changed in 1968, especially for the W108/9. The coarse MB tex, the new ugly soft knobs, the heater levers that fell apart, the harsh strip of MB Tex across the dash, things were painted sliver instead of chrome, the start of some emissions controls, the torque converter. The list goes

Re: [MBZ] Why is 1968 a watershed year for Mercedes?

2015-08-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
It lost the rear swing axels? On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 20/08/2015 9:54 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: What does too old in a clarinet mean? Whatever she wants it to mean? Played out (they don't last forever, hot