I was about to say that Marshall settled this for me last winter, but I see
that he has settled it again in 2006.
But I do challenge him on one point -- given sufficiently low temps (not
seen normally seen in PA but commonly seen in northwest IA) wind chill
continues to matter, because it
LT Don wrote:
I was about to say that Marshall settled this for me last winter, but I see
that he has settled it again in 2006.
But I do challenge him on one point -- given sufficiently low temps (not
seen normally seen in PA but commonly seen in northwest IA) wind chill
continues to matter,
My '83 VW Quantum diesel kicked right over (Mobil-1 15-W-50) at lunch time
in +1F, after being driven two blocks from the garage at 7:30 am and then
sitting until noon. Two quick hits of the glow plugs and pulled the cold
start handle (have no idea what that does, but it works).
I think my 240D
That's what you silly folk get for living where it gets so damn cold. Down
here, we hardly EVERY see temps below zero! And wind? Nah, too many trees for
that! :)
On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 19:47:22 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LT Don wrote:
I was about to say that Marshall
Yeah, it was fun this morning at a balmy 5F with a windchill of probably
around -10F or less. It was quite windy. Yeah, my battery is definitely
toast.
What amazed me was just how slow the engine can crank and still start. my
brother just swapped out his like 4 year old Subaru battery (I'm
charger wouldn't budge it) Oh, and I did leave the block heater
plugged in
all night. I'm gonna have to check it with my kill-a-watt cause it
didn't
seem like any difference this morning, it was a good 15 minutes or so
before
I saw any movement on the temp gauge.
If it's working, and it's
LT Don wrote:
My '83 VW Quantum diesel kicked right over (Mobil-1 15-W-50) at lunch time
in +1F, after being driven two blocks from the garage at 7:30 am and then
sitting until noon. Two quick hits of the glow plugs and pulled the cold
start handle (have no idea what that does, but it works).
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system (blood).
Ah, but we're talking about an engine being actively heated by a block
heater. Kinda like how your body is actively heated.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wind Chill (was Block Heater)
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies
only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system
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It's just semantics; you're both right. There are many different ways
to define and calculate wind chill.
On Dec 6, 2006, at 6:42 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
Ah, but we're talking about an engine being actively heated by a block
heater. Kinda
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
David - Bzzzt! An engine block, whether standing in the wind or in an
unheated shelter, will never get below ambient temperature, no matter how
hard the wind blows.
I realize that, but the original question was what temperature the
engine will reach WITH THE BLOCK
circulation, but no way will it get colder than that - unlike humans,
who
would feel like it is a lot colder than ambient when in the wind.
We feel the extra cold because of the increased rate of heat loss.
The largest component of this is due to the wind, the sweating
component is much
It may not be relevant but I tell you it has an effect.
I agree...
If you park out in a windy spot as opposed to a shielded spot on a
cold night, you will notice a difference not only in starting but
in how stiff the whole car is.
...But not really about this. Wind or not, parked outside
Jim Cathey wrote:
It may not be relevant but I tell you it has an effect.
I agree...
If you park out in a windy spot as opposed to a shielded spot on a
cold night, you will notice a difference not only in starting but
in how stiff the whole car is.
...But not really about this. Wind or
i've spent much of the best times of my life below ambient temperature;
but then again, i *like* it in the Dez. ;-)
cheers!
e
Jim Cathey wrote:
I'm not talking about Wind Chill Factor (TM, all rights reserved, etc.),
I'm talking about being chilled faster via wind. Wind chill, for short.
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system (blood).
Inanimate objects like machinery may cool faster if wind currents blow on
them, but the concept of lower than ambient wind chill temperatures does
NOT
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies
only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system (blood).
Inanimate objects like machinery may cool faster if wind currents blow
on
them, but the concept of lower than ambient wind chill temperatures
does
NOT
: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wind Chill (was Block Heater)
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies
only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system (blood).
Inanimate objects like machinery may cool faster if wind currents blow
comes into
play?
Mike
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Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill
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Wind Chill is an expression that is supposed to take into account humidity and
ventilation to figure the extra cooling on exposed skin
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Jim - at the risk of starting a whole new thread, Wind Chill applies only
to living things (animate) that have a circulating system (blood).
Inanimate objects like machinery may cool faster if wind currents blow on
them, but the concept of lower than ambient wind chill
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Wind Chill is an expression that is supposed to take into account humidity
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