Re: [MBZ] acetone again
Uhh, wouldn't they want to surpress this with all the power available to them?
10% lowered sales would seem disasterous.
-Curt
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of
Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem
to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never
know
unless they told us.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Content preview: I think your next step, given the age of the engine,
should be a compression check. Compression problems usually show up as
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I think your next step, given the age of the engine, should be a
compression check. Compression problems usually show up as cold start
issues long before they affect power or economy. When it gets really
low the engine will start to misfire at warm idle and will be a bear to
start when cold, but it'll still drive well at speed.
If it's not compression, check for bad injectors, especially if you're
getting a lot of nailing with the engine warm. In my experience a VW
diesel with good injectors, and properly timed, is relatively quiet for
a diesel -- they don't clatter as much as the other mechanical diesels
I've experienced. Rebuilt injectors are around $40 each; if the ones
you have are original to the car, you may be amazed at the reduction in
smoke and noise with new ones. (Or you can take them to a Bosch shop
and get them pop tested. Last time I did this it was $10 an injector,
which could be credited towards rebuilt ones if they were bad.)
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed.
Bruce
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If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never know
unless they told us.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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need another thread about using this? I have a few gallons to burn
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Werner, can you do me a favor and take a picture of the main (engine)
panel the next time you remove it for an oil change? The 300D 2.5
panel is almost $100 *cheaper* than the same part for the 1987 300D,
and I'm dying to see what the exact difference is between the two
parts.
-Aaron
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
I'd say that most people who are willing to try this already drive fuel consciously. Yes I would agree that there will be some initial extra taking it easy type of driving, however any good study is usually conducted over a long period of time to minimise outside influences. From what I can see there has not been a proper scientific study undertaken into the effect of adding tiny amounts of acetone to petrol/gas/benzin. The whole thing does stink of snake oil but I am interested wether there is any benefit in using acetone to raise the octane level in fuel or at the least, wether acetone somehow interacts with the fuel. I would like to think that the oil companies are doing the right thing by us and producing the best quality fuel that they can. Hendrik - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] acetone again B Dike wrote: An acquaintance told me he tried it and it worked as claimed. Did he change his driving habits at all? I've seen 10-15% changes in mileage in some cars just from driving slower. If someone is testing a new fuel economy additive it's likely they'll drive more carefully for a while. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: 26/01/2006
Re: [MBZ] acetone again
Sort of like biodiesel be added to petro to improve things.
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of
Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem
to be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never
know
unless they told us.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] acetone again
http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598
need another thread about using this? I have a few gallons to burn
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Re: [MBZ] acetone again
http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2006/January/08.html
Definitive test says bogus.
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Howdy -
If this story were true wouldn;t the gas/fuel companies put a bit of
Acetone
in for us? Something that would bump mileage by 10% or so would seem to
be
a pretty good advertising story - they could do it and we would never know
unless they told us.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] acetone again
http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/2598
need another thread about using this? I have a few gallons to burn
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Clay
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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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