Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm done having it plugged in all night. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Allan Streib wrote: You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. Why heavy duty? Doesn't the factory heater draw about 6 amps? (with AC, watts do not equal volt-amps) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net said: Allan Streib wrote: You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. Why heavy duty? Doesn't the factory heater draw about 6 amps? (with AC, watts do not equal volt-amps) If for no other reason, a heavy duty timer will have a 3 prong switched outlet so you can use a proper grounded extension cord for the block heater. Most household timers for lamps etc will have just a two prong outlet. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm done having it plugged in all night. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net said: Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. I use one like this http://www.hardwareworld.com/24hour-Heavy-Duty-Timer-pIRUCSL.aspx I'd be surprised if you had trouble finding one locally. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Why heavy duty? Doesn't the factory heater draw about 6 amps? The factory heater is about 400W, or 400/120=3.3A or so. The one in my Dodge RAM is 750W. (with AC, watts do not equal volt-amps) For purely resistive loads, such as incandescent lamps and heaters, pretty much they do. Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. I use an X10 appliance module. The troll's cron demon is responsible for turning it on/off. I haven't used it in years, though, as these days I'm always up early enough to just go plug it in. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Last year I used a flimsy one... This year we just plug the car in when we go out to walk the dog, by the time I've showered and eaten breakfast everything is warmed up nice. I saw no problems with the flimsy one other than it only having a 2 prong outlet. -Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:54:03 -0500 From: Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: dfeoknoapoambmikghlmeepbcdaa.michael...@charter.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm done having it plugged in all night. Allan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090122/95730735/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
I've installed coupla heavy duty timers here in the house for receptacles where hair driers and irons are plugged in; 'found irons left on too many times. These are turned on manually, though. Check electrical supply house or building supply such as Lowe's for the type you need to come on at a set time, coupla hours before going to the car, for example. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm done having it plugged in all night. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Allan Streib wrote: You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. Mitch wrote: Why heavy duty? Doesn't the factory heater draw about 6 amps? (with AC, watts do not equal volt-amps) Mitch. Help me out here. I know that volt-amps and watts don't match for capacitive or inductive loads - but with a resistive load, aren't they practically the same thing? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt wrote: I saw no problems with the flimsy one other than it only having a 2 prong outlet. That, for me, big deal. I'm attached to my life. So I want a reliable, low-resistance path to trip the breaker if the heater somehow fails. That's what the ground prong is for!! I just went out and tested the cars I have here. A couple of them _don't_ have a low-resistance connection between engine ground and the ground lead!! One of them I installed factory block heater, so it's not as old as the car. It is one that passed the test and does have a ground path. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Ground fault interrupter (GFI) is better for protecting against electrocution and can provide over-current protection, too. A GFI monitors the current on both sides of the circuit; if there's an imbalance of 5 milliamps or more, it assumes that the missing current is going off to the side through SOMEBODY and trips the circuit - doesn't need the third, grounding conductor to do its job. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least Curt wrote: I saw no problems with the flimsy one other than it only having a 2 prong outlet. That, for me, big deal. I'm attached to my life. So I want a reliable, low-resistance path to trip the breaker if the heater somehow fails. That's what the ground prong is for!! I just went out and tested the cars I have here. A couple of them _don't_ have a low-resistance connection between engine ground and the ground lead!! One of them I installed factory block heater, so it's not as old as the car. It is one that passed the test and does have a ground path. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:00:18 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Allan Streib wrote: You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. Mitch wrote: Why heavy duty? Doesn't the factory heater draw about 6 amps? (with AC, watts do not equal volt-amps) Mitch. Help me out here. I know that volt-amps and watts don't match for capacitive or inductive loads - but with a resistive load, aren't they practically the same thing? With a resistive load, they ARE the same thing. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
Mike I am looking around online...anyone else want to chime in. This one looks good, but there might be on better? I don't know if it is compatible...someone else can take that on...? Automate Exterior Lighting or Other Electronics to your Desired Schedule Overview Heavy duty on/off timer switch for loads up to 15 Amps, 1800W resistive or 600W tungstenWeather resistant design for outdoor useSimple programming instructions and large buttons with easy to read LCD screen20 programmable timed events from 1 to 7 days a weekBuilt in photocell with 5 light recognition optionsClock, manual on/off, daylight savings function, random mode, and countdown timer Essential Info This Programmable Timer is an excellent choice for regulating your exterior lights, holiday lights, fountain pumps and other electronics into an automated on/off cycle. You have the option to set up to 20 programs from 1 to 7 days a week. Programs can be set as an on/off timed function, countdown function, and 3 modes of random functions to give your home that lived in appearance. What sets this apart from similar products is the built in photocell, which allows for the timer to turn on or off depending on the light recognition option you select. A manual on/off button is a convenient option if you wish to override your current timer status. The product was developed with outdoor applications in mind and built with a weather resistant casing and a slot on the back for mounting. The timer is ideal for heavy duty use with 120V loads using up to 15Amps, 1800W resistive, 600W tungsten, and motors up to 1.0 HP. Rhonald 1985 300D 311,000 miles Paying too much for anything? Most Americans are, and there is a way to stop it. Log on to www.buyonlinegetcashback.com today and find out how get something back for a change. Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:42:30 -0800 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least Last year I used a flimsy one... This year we just plug the car in when we go out to walk the dog, by the time I've showered and eaten breakfast everything is warmed up nice. I saw no problems with the flimsy one other than it only having a 2 prong outlet. -Curt Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:54:03 -0500 From: Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: dfeoknoapoambmikghlmeepbcdaa.michael...@charter.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Can anyone recommend a timer that would work well with a block heater. All I find at the hardware store are the flimsy ones. Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least You can put the block heater on a timer, just get a heavy duty one, that's what I do. But I agree that other than wasting electricity, there's no real harm done having it plugged in all night. Allan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090122/95730735/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090123/4e4e2fa3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
...Ok, before it burned out, I would just plug it in in my driveway...a few times I did it overnight, which is probably why it burned out...did not realize it was not supposed to go all night. I think two hours at the most? Could the heavy duty extention cord be be hooked up to a timer? to come on say at 6 a.m.? .. Don't think so. Back when I had my '78 300D and I had to park it outside year round, in cold weather when I came home in the evening I would nose it up to the garage doors and plug it in. That would be about 5PM and at 7AM i'd unplug it and drive off to work. I did this countless times and aside from making the electric meter spin, there were no problems. This was the OE block heater and cord plugged into a heavy duty extenison cord. RLE ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090121/444854c3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters, well, mine at least
I did the same thing for years with the '76 300D. - Never had a block heater burn out. Just used more electricity than needed. Don't think so. Back when I had my '78 300D and I had to park it outside year round, in cold weather when I came home in the evening I would nose it up to the garage doors and plug it in. That would be about 5PM and at 7AM i'd unplug it and drive off to work. I did this countless times and aside from making the electric meter spin, there were no problems. This was the OE block heater and cord plugged into a heavy duty extenison cord. RLE -- OK Don W124 Diesels Ubuntu 8.10 KD5NRO ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
