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Donald Snook wrote: During a particularly nasty snow/ice storm. I still had the Olds. I drove it to runs some errands because I didn't want to drive the benz and get it all salty. My wife took the olds to work 30 minutes later and I had to drive the benz. The 90 124 was awful in the snow. It had new (all season) tires on it. It slid around and got stuck and was miserable to drive. I put the snow tires on it that day and it improved. But, given any amount of snow I would much rather drive the oldsmobile than a rear wheel drive benz. It's all about getting weight over the driving wheels. When I lived in Ann Arbor I had a Volvo 240DL wagon and my boyfriend had a '99 Chevy Malibu. (He's still got the Malibu, but the tinworm got the Volvo.) The Volvo initially was *terrible* in the snow, but the Malibu was like a tractor -- great traction and it went where you pointed it. I put 120 pounds of sand in the back of the Volvo and suddenly it was much better, almost a match for the Malibu. You do have to be more on your toes with a RWD car, though, because it will oversteer and fishtail, while a FWD car will just understeer. Most people find understeer more intuitive to deal with, which I suspect is part of the reason FWD cars have a reputation for being good in snow.
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Personally, I wish it had been the last one. I HATE front-drive vehicles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:45 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Are you referencing the Olds Toranado? The Toranado was and American oddity as it was the only major production front wheel drive vehicle for years. The Olds Toranado is also a very collectable car today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:31 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] bobby lickus? That radio dude who has the call in show about car questions. Always advertises bg chemicals. The other day he was pitching the tornado. Geez!! All his credibility when down the tubes. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus?
Some cars are going back to rear wheel drive. Several Chrysler products are - like the 300 series. Front wheel drive only took over because it saved about 300 pounds. It's not as safe as rear wheel drive and you can't get great performance and handling when you are steering with the same wheels you are driving with. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Potter, Tom E Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Personally, I wish it had been the last one. I HATE front-drive vehicles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:45 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Are you referencing the Olds Toranado? The Toranado was and American oddity as it was the only major production front wheel drive vehicle for years. The Olds Toranado is also a very collectable car today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:31 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] bobby lickus? That radio dude who has the call in show about car questions. Always advertises bg chemicals. The other day he was pitching the tornado. Geez!! All his credibility when down the tubes. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 09:04 AM, Potter, Tom E wrote: I HATE front-drive vehicles. So do I. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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I HATE front-drive vehicles. So do I. Ditto, they're like McDonald's versus good cooking. Thirteen (?) cars laying around here, and not one FWD in the bunch. (Nor 4-cyl gasser, nor V6.) Nothing but the best here! :-) FWD's vaunted snow handling ability was informally put to the test a few years ago by Click Clack, they compared an Acura to some old land yacht on a nasty day. The land yacht sailed circles around the Acura, and they attributed it all to weight. FWD lets you make a lighter car but with more of its weight on the driven wheels, approximating the traction a heavier car would have. That's pretty much all it does for you. Best snow traction I've ever had was in our 4WD pickup carrying the camper. Was amazing. Weight, weight, weight. -- Jim
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On Monday, February 20, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Best snow traction I've ever had was in our 4WD pickup carrying the camper. Was amazing. Weight, weight, weight. -- Jim Nothing beats a good set of tire chains for traction. I had vans for many years and they were terrible when empty. Especially LWB HD models. Chains changed that but they make the ride is terrible. I used to keep a load of hay in my vans in the winter. Fed right out of the van and I built a wall to make the passenger compartment smaller and easier to keep warm . The hay kept it nice and quiet too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Jim C. Wrote: FWD's vaunted snow handling ability was informally put to the test a few years ago by Click Clack, they compared an Acura to some old land yacht on a nasty day. The land yacht sailed circles around the Acura, and they attributed it all to weight. FWD lets you make a lighter car but with more of its weight on the driven wheels, approximating the traction a heavier car would have. That's pretty much all it does for you. I could not disagree more. When I bought my 90 300D I was driving a 1996 Olds Cutlass Ciera. It was the most boring and unspectacular car around. During a particularly nasty snow/ice storm. I still had the Olds. I drove it to runs some errands because I didn't want to drive the benz and get it all salty. My wife took the olds to work 30 minutes later and I had to drive the benz. The 90 124 was awful in the snow. It had new (all season) tires on it. It slid around and got stuck and was miserable to drive. I put the snow tires on it that day and it improved. But, given any amount of snow I would much rather drive the oldsmobile than a rear wheel drive benz. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL
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benz and get it all salty. My wife took the olds to work 30 minutes later and I had to drive the benz. The 90 124 was awful in the snow. It had new (all season) tires on it. It slid around and got stuck and was miserable to drive. I put the snow tires on it that day and it improved. But, given any amount of snow I would much rather drive the oldsmobile than a rear wheel drive benz. So, was the 124 an ancient land yacht? No, it's a modern, lighter car. A few hundred pounds of sand in the trunk would have transformed it, no doubt. -- Jim
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Am I the only one to suspect that Bobby Lickus is a joke name like Phillip McKrevis or Connie Lingus? Lee On Monday 20 February 2006 8:39, Jim Cathey wrote: I HATE front-drive vehicles. So do I. Ditto, they're like McDonald's versus good cooking. Thirteen (?) cars laying around here, and not one FWD in the bunch. (Nor 4-cyl gasser, nor V6.) Nothing but the best here! :-) FWD's vaunted snow handling ability was informally put to the test a few years ago by Click Clack, they compared an Acura to some old land yacht on a nasty day. The land yacht sailed circles around the Acura, and they attributed it all to weight. FWD lets you make a lighter car but with more of its weight on the driven wheels, approximating the traction a heavier car would have. That's pretty much all it does for you. Best snow traction I've ever had was in our 4WD pickup carrying the camper. Was amazing. Weight, weight, weight. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Lee, I perceive that no one else wants to go there!!! Take care, Chuck On Feb 20, 2006, at 1:24 PM, lee wrote: Am I the only one to suspect that Bobby Lickus is a joke name like Phillip McKrevis or Connie Lingus? Lee
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Maybe you will get a reply from Mike Hunt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Lee, I perceive that no one else wants to go there!!! Take care, Chuck On Feb 20, 2006, at 1:24 PM, lee wrote: Am I the only one to suspect that Bobby Lickus is a joke name like Phillip McKrevis or Connie Lingus? Lee ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Then Craven Moorhead, Hugh Jass and Hugh Jorgen will chime in - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Maybe you will get a reply from Mike Hunt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Lee, I perceive that no one else wants to go there!!! Take care, Chuck On Feb 20, 2006, at 1:24 PM, lee wrote: Am I the only one to suspect that Bobby Lickus is a joke name like Phillip McKrevis or Connie Lingus? Lee ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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you forgot Howie Feltersnatch and Heywood Jableauxmie. Bob Rentfro wrote: Then Craven Moorhead, Hugh Jass and Hugh Jorgen will chime in - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Maybe you will get a reply from Mike Hunt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Lee, I perceive that no one else wants to go there!!! Take care, Chuck On Feb 20, 2006, at 1:24 PM, lee wrote: Am I the only one to suspect that Bobby Lickus is a joke name like Phillip McKrevis or Connie Lingus? Lee
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Best snow vehicle I've ever owned was my '67 VW split window bus--unstoppable. If/when it does snow around here, I just try to stay home. I'm reasonably proficient, but the majority of folks in Western Warshington don't have a clue how to drive in the stuff. Not safe with nervous crazies on the road. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (210k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
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no, the tornado, you know, that you put in your air intake. Tom Hargrave wrote: Are you referencing the Olds Toranado? The Toranado was and American oddity as it was the only major production front wheel drive vehicle for years. The Olds Toranado is also a very collectable car today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:31 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] bobby lickus? That radio dude who has the call in show about car questions. Always advertises bg chemicals. The other day he was pitching the tornado. Geez!! All his credibility when down the tubes. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Tom Hargrave wrote: Are you referencing the Olds Toranado? I think he was referencing the Tornado intake vortex producing, miracle power and mpg increasing device. Big hint: if it's that cheap and that good, it'd be in every new car, especially with buyers suddenly paying attention to the mpg ratings again.
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Oh, that Tornado. Someone needs to tell him that he needs to just drive downhill everywhere he goes to save money. Maybe he'll bite on that one and will look like a true idiot! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 8:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Tom Hargrave wrote: Are you referencing the Olds Toranado? I think he was referencing the Tornado intake vortex producing, miracle power and mpg increasing device. Big hint: if it's that cheap and that good, it'd be in every new car, especially with buyers suddenly paying attention to the mpg ratings again. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Someone needs to tell him that he needs to just drive downhill everywhere he goes to save money. It can be done. Larger rear tires are the ticket. Call Bobby LIckus!
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LOL! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of lee Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] bobby lickus? Someone needs to tell him that he needs to just drive downhill everywhere he goes to save money. It can be done. Larger rear tires are the ticket. Call Bobby LIckus! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
