Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread OK Don
I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

On 3/29/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote:
 
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I don't know. My 190 turbo has a hood star and working tranny, and
the same color interior, but I'm not traveling to Maryland to pick
up another project car.



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
 I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 

K



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

the 722.4 does not have a b2 piston

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:


I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?



I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


K

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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 
 On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:
  I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?
 
 I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
 immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.

And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 30, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:


 Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


	We have a 2.5 NA. I did look it over thinking all the goodies would  
be there to convert ours or another, possibly throwing a 5spd into  
the mix. This particular car is really clapped out and ~ 600 miles  
away. I'm going to finish present projects, then look for something  
fun like that.
	In this way I would not stress-out my excellent Wife. She  
will,however want me to get into a fun project that she can also  
enjoy. She has recently suggested we overhaul my old Harley FLH  
together and do a little touring in the future. I am a lucky man to  
have her in my life. In my wildest dreams I never thought it could be  
this good.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?


I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s. 


The B-2 piston shattering was unique to the 722.3 transmissions, but the 
 722.4 B-2 pistons or bands CAN fail and the resulting symptom is 
exactly the same. They don't fail nearly as often because the parts were 
redesigned (just as the revised, replacement 722.3 parts were).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-30 Thread Marshall Booth

Mitch Haley wrote:

Kevin wrote:

On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 09:51:58PM -0600, OK Don wrote:

I wonder if it's really a broken band, or a B2 piston?

I was under the understanding that the 722.4 was more or less
immune from the B2 affliction that pestered earlier 722.3s.


And I was under the impression that the 2.5 turbo can kill it
in 200-300kmi. This one has 296k on the clock. Probably just
worn out. Maybe Johnny B wants another 190D after his wife
claims the 2.0?


The 722 series transmissions wear every time they shift and hardly wear 
at all while in gear running. So to minimize transmission wear, minimize 
shifting. During the 10 years I was driving from Pittsburgh to 
Washington DC and back weekly, I counted the number of shifts that my 
300TD made on the trip and the number of shifts that my 190Ds (with 
automatics) made. The 190D shifted not quite twice as often. Around town 
the number of shifts was much closer to the same.


That corresponds with the average life of the a 722.4 transmission in a 
201 vs a 722.3 transmission in a 123/124/126. In city driving, both 
transmissions give similar life (150-200kmi), but in highway service, 
the average 722.3 transmission will last quite a bit longer (all other 
things being equal). I believe that the BIGGEST factor is engine power. 
The more powerful engines allow the transmission to last longer by 
allowing the engine to propel the car satisfactorily with many fewer shifts!


Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-01-29 Thread Bob Rentfro

Why can't that be closer?

Bob Rentfro (looking for a friend for the 300D)


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