Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Christopher McCann wrote:

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as dark 
as you want.
  
  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  


It shouldn't.  I even have a piece of that static-cling type tint film 
in my rear window and the defogger works just fine under it.  (Well, the 
three remaining working wires do.  But the other ones were bad before I 
put the film on. ;) )

  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but I 
want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  


I used to have a Ford van with a very deep factory tint in the rear.  
I'm not sure how dark it was, but probably over 50% -- you couldn't see 
in from the outside.  During daylight it was fine.  At night I felt like 
I needed brighter reverse lights.





Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread BillR
 Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.
  
  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  
  any suggestions  greatly appreciated! 
  


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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Bob Rentfro
Gotta make sure whatever you do it's within the law. Here in AZ you can have 
limo tint on everything except the drivers and passengers window (I think)


Bob Rentfro
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Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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Subject: [MBZ] tinting question

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.

 1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
 2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...

 any suggestions  greatly appreciated!



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
Bob, right. that was the first sentence, but maybe  not clear. I checked up on 
that. 35% in front (obviously not the front  WINDSHIELD) and no regulation on 
the rest of the windows.
  
  Chris

Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Gotta make sure whatever you do it's 
within the law. Here in AZ you can have 
limo tint on everything except the drivers and passengers window (I think)

Bob Rentfro
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Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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Subject: [MBZ] tinting question

35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.

  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...

  any suggestions  greatly appreciated!



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-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
it's a trade off between keeping the car cooler/lesss work for AC, etc and 
safety. Kinda tough call.
  
  Chris

BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Some personal experience - Moderate tint on 
the wife's car made it near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM  270k
2001 I30  Hers  72K
1996 Sentra  262k

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35% is the max for front two windows in Missouri - other windows can be as
dark as you want.
  
  1. will it interfere with the rear defrost? (good shop is doing the work)
  2. I'm thinking 35% in front and ...not sure the rest. I want it dark, but
I want to be able to see out too...50%, 60%?...
  
  any suggestions  greatly appreciated! 
  


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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger
  
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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 08:14:16PM -0500, BillR wrote:
  Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it near
 impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful down here
 in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.

The black truck (87 or 88 K30 crew cab dually) has a set of extra backup
lights mounted under the bumper that are wired to come on when in reverse.

The truck doesn't have much of a tint, but the dinky chevy reverse lights
were nowhere near adequate for a truck that big and tall.

K



Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 
 The black truck (87 or 88 K30 crew cab dually) has a set of extra backup
 lights mounted under the bumper that are wired to come on when in reverse.

When the worthless little reverse lamps under the bumper of my '75 Civic
finally rusted and fell off, I thought about getting a pair of 55w clear
fog lamps to replace them. Now that fog lights are about $15 a set, it's
actually quite feasible if you want underbumber back-ups. I saw some 
little self-contained prefocused 55w 12v halogen lamps at Menard's last
week for about a buck apiece, I think they were replacement bulbs for
low voltage track lights, size MR16. They'd make strong back-up lamps
if you could get housings to mount them in.



Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread John Berryman


On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:14 PM, BillR wrote:

 Some personal experience - Moderate tint on the wife's car made it  
near
impossible to back up at night.  A decent tint job is very helpful  
down here

in the sun belt, but can be a danger also.
BillR
Jacksonville FL


	A great danger to pedestrians. My x 190D had tint and looked nice  
but I had to roll down the front windows at night when pedestrians  
could be present. Ditto for backing up using mirrors at night.
	I bet someone has a photosensitive window film that works like  
SunSensor eyeglasses. This I would consider using.


Johnny B
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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

Mitch Haley wrote:

When the worthless little reverse lamps under the bumper of my '75 Civic
finally rusted and fell off, I thought about getting a pair of 55w clear
fog lamps to replace them. Now that fog lights are about $15 a set, it's
actually quite feasible if you want underbumber back-ups.


That's not a bad idea, though 55W is probably overkill.  
Trapezoidal-beam tractor lights are also quite cheap and should hold up 
pretty well.





Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread David Brodbeck

John Berryman wrote:


	I bet someone has a photosensitive window film that works like  
SunSensor eyeglasses. This I would consider using.
  


One of the new exotics (I forget which, maybe a Ferrari) has a tinted 
roof panel that uses liquid crystal tint.  It goes from clear to opaque 
or anywhere in between at the twist of a knob.  The Boeing 787 is 
supposed to have the same technology for the passenger windows, instead 
of the usual plastic pull-down sunshades.




Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Christopher McCann
decided against it. Window seals are all original  and the tinting co. said, 
honestly, that rubber dust will get jammed  between the window and film over 
time and cause problems. Once window  seals are replaced (not for a while) I 
may reconsider.
  
  They also said that it will not interfere with rear window de-frost,  but 
that it would interfere with radio reception if antenna is in the  back, which 
it is NOT on the SD...must be using a metallic coated film.
  
  FYI
  
  Chris

David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Mitch Haley wrote:
 When the worthless little reverse lamps under the bumper of my '75 Civic
 finally rusted and fell off, I thought about getting a pair of 55w clear
 fog lamps to replace them. Now that fog lights are about $15 a set, it's
 actually quite feasible if you want underbumber back-ups.

That's not a bad idea, though 55W is probably overkill.  
Trapezoidal-beam tractor lights are also quite cheap and should hold up 
pretty well.


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the maybachs have it.
  
  Chris

David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  John Berryman wrote:

  I bet someone has a photosensitive window film that works like  
 SunSensor eyeglasses. This I would consider using.
   

One of the new exotics (I forget which, maybe a Ferrari) has a tinted 
roof panel that uses liquid crystal tint.  It goes from clear to opaque 
or anywhere in between at the twist of a knob.  The Boeing 787 is 
supposed to have the same technology for the passenger windows, instead 
of the usual plastic pull-down sunshades.

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-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, Nanook
-1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 211K, Wulf 
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger

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Re: [MBZ] tinting question

2006-01-20 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 10:32:27PM -0500, Mitch Haley wrote:
 Kevin wrote:
  
  The black truck (87 or 88 K30 crew cab dually) has a set of extra backup
  lights mounted under the bumper that are wired to come on when in reverse.
 
 When the worthless little reverse lamps under the bumper of my '75 Civic
 finally rusted and fell off, I thought about getting a pair of 55w clear
 fog lamps to replace them. Now that fog lights are about $15 a set, it's
 actually quite feasible if you want underbumber back-ups. I saw some 
 little self-contained prefocused 55w 12v halogen lamps at Menard's last
 week for about a buck apiece, I think they were replacement bulbs for
 low voltage track lights, size MR16. They'd make strong back-up lamps
 if you could get housings to mount them in.

For what it's worth, they were a cheap kit from JC whitney, installed probably
ten or eleven years ago...

K